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extreme_aardvark 5y ago
So I’m late to the thread but I just have a question. Anyway I’m texting this girl and teasing/keeping it light. Then today she hits me with:
“The constant jokes are getting a little old honestly. I can’t get to know you when you’re constantly just hurtling shit.” That wasn’t supposed to mean. I’m sure you can see what I’m trying to say.”
How do I respond to that? Something like “it’s a joke not a dick don’t take it so hard” or maybe “and you probably won’t get to know me with that attitude”
Or do I even respond at all? Forgive my ignorance, I’m still learning.
gutsy_retard 5y ago
My unplugging ocurred barely a week or so before I departed for a 6 month long voyage. There, I consciously refrained from any fluff. No moviees, tv shows and other brainwashing media. I did listen to music on and off for my workouts. I only read books on my e reader. Good 6 months.
Today on the flight back home, I was not able to watch any media. My attention was on other people's screens where I took in two to three movies at a time. Every scene felt like it was loaded with some or the other means of brainwashing people. Be it with regards to feminization of man, to product placement for advertising, to the scenes shot with definite intent to portray something as something else.
I am genuinely overwhelmed by this 17 hour bombardment of fluff. I remember everytime I watched TV or movies I kept thinking about how they are brainwashing me. But you could say my initial conditioning acted like an anesthetic. Now though, its like getting a root canal with no sedative. My brain is in overdrive and I am not enjoying it in the least bit. I have not even bothered to open social media.
So cutting to the chase, I ask you this, how do you learn to function in this environment? Tell me your stories about how you got past the shock and began to filter your information subconsciously via a RedPill lens.
TL;DR - Enter monk mode after unplugging. Now overwhelmed by all the media frenzy in the world. Brain is in overdrive processing information. Also Red lensin use.
GaiusStone 5y ago
I'm having my first day on the gym 3 days from now but i have no idea on what my workout routine would be. I would like to ask for help from you people. I would like it to include cardio and lifting (dumbbells only for now). I'm fat and would like to lose weight first before really getting into lifting. Any suggestions?
duerinnovations 5y ago
Hi everyone. I was hoping if one of you may know/ be able to suggest a TRP therapist in the bay area, preferably near Berkeley? I'm an engineering student at UC and am looking around for a shrink. Thank you in advance!
TheBigForklift 5y ago
Brand new here. Learning little by little. Talking with a girl on Tinder, she’s 18, I’m 24.
After some conversation, she says “what are you looking for in a gal?”
Basically I want someone who is a bad ass chick who has her own thing going, is intelligent, driven, ambitious. Be into me but not so much that we both can’t focus on our own projects and killing shit
I’m looking for suggestions on ways to answer this in a way that “sounds good”.
I’m new to tinder as well, I’m a lot better at “talking” in person so this is a learning process.
Thanks ahead of time
highonspeed 5y ago
Been implementing redpill in my life slowly but surely come across a bit of a stump tho, any advice on dealing with a tyrannical father? Every instance where I go out/do something that he irrationally disagrees with he threatens to kick me from the home unless I listen to him. I am studying engineering and in college atm
zixian0631 5y ago
What does a Man’s ‘frame’ encompass? I am still trying to grasp the concept. From what I understand, ‘frame’ is how you carry yourself. My next question would be what is the ideal ‘frame’ a Man should work towards in this day and age?
Chaddeus_Rex 5y ago
I went on two dates with a girl. First date was a make out, second we went for drinks and dessert and afterwards i escalated in the car to get her horny before i take her to the hotel. We started making out heavily took off her shirt and when i suggested we go someplace private she was silent for a few moments then said she is not ready for that. She didnt let me take her pants off and was wearing tight jeans, but i shoved my hands down her pants but could feel her getting wet and since i could not reach the pussy i shoved a finger into her butthole and made her lick it. My question is, should i have taken her to a hotel without making out first (i wasnt sure on how to progress from getting her off my fucking lap i was stuck behind the wheel and the girl and to getting her to a hotel to bang without making it awkward). I cant take girls home. This is the third girl this kind of shit happens. Please help.
calamalakos 5y ago
Fuck, I've done some shit in my day and will continue to but I can't say I've put a finger in a chick's ass and had her lick it while kissing her in my car.
That's hilarious. Nice one.
I can't really offer advice but it sounds like your logistics suck. Had that been back at your place rather than a car, you'd be progressing far further.
Where you at? How old are you?
Chaddeus_Rex 5y ago
I live with my mom in a suburban town far from everything. Its like a 20 min drive to chill with the chick I dont tell her that obviously. I am 25 years old. Dont have my own place because ive been focusing on getting into med school.
InternalCog 5y ago
How do I try to use these strategies to secure a girlfriend? This sub is mainly about hookups and I see a lot of posts about AWALT but part of me just wants a loyal girlfriend at times. I just want to know how to keep a girlfriend without losing her to a guy who is more alpha than me. Is the key to never submit and always be my own man? I don’t really want to have 30+ hookups I just want to understand women so I have options and I learn how to deal with underlying problems and shit tests.
calamalakos 5y ago
Cut out smoking mj and using harder drugs. For a while, anyway, until I can implement sparingly.
My head is clear, my game is tight, I'm in peak shape, however, my problem is avoiding "deep" conversations.
I don't find stupid conversations interesting. I don't really watch tv. I don't have instagram, snapchat, etc. I don't give a fuck about making fun of the weird guy sitting at the bar.
However, I know that bitches love this shit. Do I have to just fake it? I'm 36 now and didn't mind it as much in my early 20s, but, is superficial, "light and fun" conversation necessary for younger women?
What kind of shit is good to talk about? This girl I was out with last week was into reality tv and game and thrones... I don't know anything about that.
calamalakos 5y ago
Do you think if your game is tight enough you should be able to fuck any chick on the first date?
Maybe I've been setting maybe my bar too high, but I assume if I don't, it's something I've done wrong.
What do you guys think?
kingbraderz 5y ago
I’ve heard this before but how do I actually know if that’s the case or not and it’s not me?
2dox 5y ago
I can't find what it means to break the plates anywhere, what does it mean?
kingbraderz 5y ago
I’m not sure if it’s me or my dick size, I’m not getting my girl who I’m in a LTR (2 years this May) with excited and aroused in more ways than just physical or that we have a very fun and jokey sort of relationship or the fact that she has G.A.D. (Generalized anxiety disorder) and the medication she takes has anything to do with it but I’ve never made her orgasm from actual sex I can do it pretty fine if I’m playing with her clit or eating her out but it’s never happened with just sex. Am I not big enough? For reference I’m basically average 6 inches, would not say I’m super girthy which I feel like has something to do with it maybe I also feel like it could be due to her not feeling totally comfortable? My room is basically dead center in my house I have 3 doors 2 of which are always blocked off and never opened and one isn’t really a door it’s more of a sliding door that was put up so I can hear a lot of what goes on outside of my room and probably vice versa....advice?
rcsob 5y ago
Girls generally dont orgasm from penetrative sex, you're fine
[deleted] 5y ago
So is having a crush the same as oneitus? Furthermore, can you keep yourself from having a crush?
womans_algorithm 5y ago
It's the same, and it's spelled 'oneitis'. Yes, you can keep yourself from having a crush, but it's not easy.
WarViper1337 5y ago
Essentially yes though most here would define oneitis as a crush that has turned into a borderline obsession. I would say that at the "crush" stage you still have the option of finding out whether or not she is interested in you and take action accordingly. If she is into you then escalate the situation. If she is not interested then remove her from your thoughts and continue on improving yourself.
Iwannachokekatie 5y ago
I see women I'd love to hook up with more often than ever (often even pop a half chub just by having them near. thanks high test e blast) But I don't want to approach women until I start getting random ioi consistently when going out. Bad mindset?
womans_algorithm 5y ago
Bad mindset and just an excuse for you not to approach.
Dvinsk 5y ago
What's TRP's view on LTRs? it seems like some here are against it.
WarViper1337 5y ago
Some are for and others are against. There really isn't a right or wrong answer though. TRP is about improving yourself, understanding female nature, and coming to terms with the fact that society does not care about men. What you do with those tools is up to you.
TrillegitimateSon 5y ago
how do I best play off my image?
22, I'm pretty fucking short, but I eat well and take care of myself for the most part (teeth are kinda rough from years of depression and not caring as a teen, working on them). Face is average. Nice hair, medium length, take care of it - looks like i try but not too hard. Not ripped but not skinny, visible abs, mostly I just try to stay proportional not get too huge. Not your typical RP guy but the musician, neck tats, edgy, fashionable scumbag kinda look.
5'4" on a good day. The height is a big one, usually only girls who are also short are receptive. Here's the kicker, my dick is impressive and looks even more ridiculous on someone as short as me. once I whip it out it's fucking over but I have a lot of resistance getting there. I have little extra money for bitches because I invest as much as I can into building my brand and finishing my home studio, how do you game around the fact that I don't want to spend any money on them when it could be better used for my career?
[deleted] 5y ago
You don't need any money for girls.
I'm 5'5, 17, jobless.
Don't work due to a government internship.
Stereotypical 'white' family where they'll give me money if I need it but I have never wanted to use their resources on something as trivial as women.
Mental > Physical > Family > Career > Social > Women
Free venues.
Parks. Hiking. Running. Your house. Her house.
SnowMonkeyCracker 5y ago
Wear bike shorts. I'm slightly joking. You claim you are packing some awesome weaponry but you are hiding your confidence of this fact. You need to be wearing metaphorical bike shorts where the 'outline' of your massive junk is displayed in your personality.
Women love to gossip. So if your tackle is as good as you claim, women will spread the good word.
TrillegitimateSon 5y ago
I usually stick with the skinnier jeans. Not so skinny it looks like I'm trying to show off but definitely noticeable.
SnowMonkeyCracker 5y ago
Perhaps I was too heavy with the poetry. I was talking metaphorically. You need the "I've got a big dick" attitude in your personality if that is what you want to be known for.
Tight jeans are fine but don't squeeze your spuds too tight.
#nohomo
TrillegitimateSon 5y ago
I wouldn't say I wanna be 'known for' it, more looking for a way to put it on the table without saying "I got a huge dick, soooooo"
Is it a combination of confidence and display? Make it visually clear if you look, and the attitude to match?
SnowMonkeyCracker 5y ago
If you are so far above average then you are in a rare club and therefor will need to write your own rules.
I think there is a reddit group for men with above average sized members and the issues that causes. Sorry, don't recall the name.
TrillegitimateSon 5y ago
Fair enough. Statistically 1% according to the internet. Guess it's practice time
buttgoogler 5y ago
How did you guys find TRP? Sitting back and thinking about how I got here after all the time surfing this thread, I'm really curious about how others stumbled upon this man's heaven.
RedPillFreedom 5y ago
NoFap posts about it frequently. Since people there recommend no mr. nice guy.
First time I came here I was like whoa oh I'm on the wrong side of the internet. The second time I stayed and began reading and I was like wow I should subscribe. Wasn't till I got banned for posting personal info I began the sidebar. I banged out the whole thing on the plane ride. Then, continued to take notes when reading on tablet. Wasn't till that I took it serious.
You can get the community lingo and vibe but till you get the basics down(sidebar). You're not going anywhere.
Focused on basics and from there everything becomes way easier.
Lkeacentipede 5y ago
My approach anxiety and inability to go from friendly vibe to sexual with women (unless they where really into me) lead me to PUAs.Then frustrated by the 300-400 pages books, where fundamentals are spread throughout instead of stated at start, I started looking for a place with no profit incentive to learn from and woalaaa
abhishek9129 5y ago
A friend installed reddit app and subbed me to the TRP thread, though i already was a gamer and going out regularly, then i saw few posts and i felt as if i had found the gold. Since then i have introduced it to many guys. It has made my game and vibe really awesome.
BornShook 5y ago
I heard about trp somewhere, I thought it was something I should stay away from. So I checked out the blue pill sub first, which is just an anti-redpill sub. All of the critisisms were "Misogony! blah blah blah" the typical libtard debate tactics. So since Im a conservative I decided to check this sub out. Now Its been almost a year
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BornShook 5y ago
I dont understand how you can be redpilled and a progressive liberal. You must be confused.
COCAINE_ADVOCATE 5y ago
I was following the election very closely and often saw how Trump was lumped together with "redpillers".
Seeing how Trump was vilified in every way possible on reddit, to the point where I knew at least some of it had to be complete fabrication, I decided to check out the truth about this place.
It's ironic that their virtue signalling and complete disregard for the truth basically acted as advertisement for safe places for free thinking.
Jailhouseredpilled93 5y ago
I used to google: the truth about [insert topic] and i would add red pill because Stefan M. throws the term around. I used to get all my election info from him and a couple other "alt-righters." Then one day I failed a shit test from a girl who was totally into me. I was devastated...being back in the SMP after 20 years this shit became real real quick! I googled: the truth about how to flirt with girls red pill, and never looked back.
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notyourfathersfather 5y ago
I was looking for conservative subreddits, and I thought this was one of them. I stayed once. I realized what it was all about and realized I needed it.
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jwarner95 5y ago
Last December after a nasty rejection I fortunately had a rational side to my brain, did some research as to what I may have done wrong, and stumbled upon an article about not giving girls validation. I semi absorbed it at first, then it faded away until I got rejected again a few months ago. At that point my friend sent me theredpill and I've been following it religiously ever since.
Torvoltz 5y ago
I started watching pua videos on youtube, mostly RSDTyler. I think Tyler mentioned the redpill in one of his videos, and then I found the subreddit.
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valrykie 5y ago
I saw a post trying to shame trp and looked in the comments about how they are mysoginist and manipulators. This peaked my interest and I've been here ever since.
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falconiawillfall 5y ago
Had a shit ton of issues with my first/only relationship because of me being beta, resulted in relationship becoming toxic as I lashed out at being constantly disrespected. Somehow I unknowingly started implementing TRP solutions (dread, witholding attention etc.). After I ended the relationship, I started googling things I'd observed over the course of the relationship and got to TRP.
askmrcia 5y ago
Found it three years ago. Found MGTOW first because I was watching those "You are Not the Father" Maury clips on YouTube. A bunch of people commented MGTOW.
Looked into MGTOW and eventually found the redpill sub reddit.
af_007 5y ago
I watched the documentary The Red Pill.
BlockKillerz 5y ago
When i was trying to save my relationship, i searched something along the lines of, "how to keep your girlfriend" or "how to know if your girlfriend doesnt love you anymore" on Google. Clicked on mostly wikihow stuff then i saw a comment on YouTube mentioning theredpill. I looked up this reddit and i was surprised to the information this sub had to offer.
RagingDongers 5y ago
I actually had a coworker recommend it to me. He did break the first rule of fight club, but I think that was because I had already shown some natural understanding of Red Pill ideas. Then this sub just allowed me to hone those in and apply them properly
[deleted] 5y ago
I googled "how to get laid", pretty pathetic but you gotta start somewhere
Peter_B_Long 5y ago
I was actually on the bodybuilding.com forums and some guy was talking about benefits of NoFap. Mostly muscle and energy gains. I didn't think much of it, but it planted a seed in my mind about what would happen if I stopped fapping (I was fapping like twice a day for years, and I knew that it wasn't good, but I never knew how bad it was). A quick google search of "benefits of NoFap" brought me to the NoFap subreddit and my first time on Reddit actually.
I was on NoFap for about a month and I started finding other subreddits like showerthoughts and meditaiton. I remember someone bringing up TRP and people were shitting on it. I decided to check out this page so I can join in on the laugh but I quickly realized that I'd stumbled into a gold mine.
TheLanternFlame 5y ago
Last year after suffering from an oneitis breakup. I said fuck it all and just focus on myself. Went to reddit to find about self improvement, bam, trp.
Proto_Sigma 5y ago
A youtube channel called ManWomanMyth. He makes pretty standard MGTOW stuff, but through the MGTOW content I was informed about the manosphere and eventually made my way here. ( Oh, the joys of being a teenager desperate to get laid and scouring the internet for tips.)
warpingDragon 5y ago
It was about 2 years ago. I was browsing reddit and I saw a gif of Neo stopping a bunch of downvotes( the scene when he held his hand out and stopped multiple bullets). I thought the post was funny so I read the comments and someone had linked this sub. Something in my gut told me to check it out and once I read the side bar I thought to myself that had found El Dorado. This sub had literally changed my life for the better for sure.
GrimTRP 5y ago
Saw a PUA post on the NoFap subreddit. PUA eventually lead to me TRP
mistermatric 5y ago
A person I know told me about "this hilarious subreddit full of insane misogynists and women hate".
thisiszatch 5y ago
It was last August. I was browsing the front page and reading the comments on whatever post and someone said “stay away from TRP” as advice to some teen. After that a quick search brought me to this sub. Only 16 and for sure have a long way to go.
sneakyboii 5y ago
Wow same for me. I always wondered why. Whats wrong with the sub?, then i was lurked and lurked and then i realised that they were a bit wrong.
[deleted] 5y ago
Isn't it amazing how the more someone yells to not read this thing or visit this site, everyone does anyway? It's amazing how virtue signalling people haven't figured this out. If they be quiet about the people or things they hate, the less people will know about it.
Arabian_Wolf 5y ago
Luck, it was in 2016 and this luck totally changed my life, it was a literal red pill like the one morpheus presented to neo.
I'm a total different man from a year ago though as that was when I started to apply it to self-improve myself, it was due to a shock from my sibling and enabling dad, felt like an alone, injured wolf, channeled that anger and frustration into reading quality books (Mastery, 1984, NMMNG, 48LoP, Animal Farm, Brave New World, Antifragile, Art of War etc), then shortly started lifting the barbell in a variety of ways.
[deleted] 5y ago
It all started with a friend....
A horny friend who really found value in the pick up methods promoted here at the time in September of last year. The great irony is that as soon as he found enough confidence to ask chicks out-not even fucking them (to my knowledge) that he found this community to be TOXIC.
I know him well enough (12 years strong) to know that he still is holding out for a BluePill Romance within the dynamics of RedPill- he understands the value of status and money but still wants to believe that she loves him for him. He knows the basic truth, he understands it well enough to have confidence from it but he doesnt understand a lick of theory or the deeper gendernomics besides whatever Jordan Peterson might occasionally bring up.
I was always the analytical one of the two of us. When I discover a new area of study i jump right in. The deeper I got, the more clear the economic struggle between the two genders became- I dont hate or despise women; they are simply playing the game like the rest of us. But that doesnt mean Im not going to use every evolutionary advantage I have been given to do as I will with them. My rationalization has become- If they fall of me; I do as I please. If I fall for them-I Never fall for them.
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MentORPHEUS Endorsed Contributor 5y ago
It was mentioned and linked on another forum. Read for like 6 months before joining Reddit to start participating; the rest is history.
ImmunosuppressedTau 5y ago
I got to redial from reading a chapter of The Game. Basically PUA ->TRP. I prefer TRP much more over PUA. PUA has a lot of flaws.
xidub 5y ago
PUA seems to be basically: 'This is what you need to do in a club to get laid'. A lot of that comes from similar thinking to TRP, but TRP applies a much more general philosophy of 'Sort your fucking life out and don't be a bitch' without placing so much emphasis on PUA gimmicks.
ImmunosuppressedTau 5y ago
yeah TRP has become more about self improvement for me and less about getting chicks. My focus has shifted to improving my physique, learning a new language, reading books, meeting new people because I enjoy challenging myself and doing new things. If I get chics because of this thats a bonus but its not the goal anymore. This wouldn't have happened if I stayed with the PUA crap tbh. I would be a needy bitch going out playing a numbers game each night.
carb0ncl1mber 5y ago
That’s kind of the whole trick, really. If you’re acting a certain way ‘just to get girls’, no matter what you’re doing, you’re a beta, falling into pedestal traps by the very nature of the motivation of your behavior. As soon as you do things FOR YOU, for your own benefit ... now you’re actually, legitimately attractive, instead of just pretending like you are and hoping they don’t notice you’re faking until after you fuck them.
jwarner95 5y ago
How can I take a break without completely losing mental steam when I hit that fatigue wall. I've recently cut out all stimulants and I can't just keep going like I used to. When I take breaks though I usually end up bullshitting and falling out of my productive mindset. What's a good length for breaks, activity for breaks, or any break related advice you may have.
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jwarner95 5y ago
I'm an all or nothing kind of guy when it comes to abusable things unfortunately.
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jwarner95 5y ago
Yeah I'm definitely a dopamine junky; stimulants, video games, porn, eating etc.
AllMadHare 5y ago
Walk, workout, stretch, I've found most of my fatigue walls gett smashed the moment I start moving with vigor.
womans_algorithm 5y ago
You cutting out all stimulants is too big of a shock to your brains. You can't just turn your life 180 degrees and expect everything to be ok.
jwarner95 5y ago
Yeah, I suppose I'm expecting too much. I've got a long journey ahead of me so I'll be patient with my recovering brain the next few days.
Self-honest 5y ago
Sleep for a cycle - 1.5 hours.
Imalostman_ 5y ago
I don't get this. Please explain what you mean.q
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Self-honest 5y ago
Thanks for taking that one.
llwilderll 5y ago
Hello all! I consider myself to be above average when in social settings and when talking to women but there's always room for improvement. Unfortunately, I don't work in an environment with many women and the guys I work with are all older and I don't have much in common with any of them. I was wondering if anybody had any mental exercises or any advice for upping my game in my current work environment. Thanks!
[deleted] 5y ago
I’m currently reading the sidebar. Some of the content comes from the illimitable man. In most of the articles there are imbedded links, is it suggested to read the articles linked. It seems like that would lead me to endless content but I really don’t mind. I just want to know how pertinent it’s is to trp and whether it is considered suggested reading. (I’m new and I must say, the sidebar is genius. It has helped me to internalize a lot of trp concepts. Although I am far from done with that)
abhishek9129 5y ago
What is this sidebar man, i dont see it
[deleted] 5y ago
Three dots in the upper right. Community info.
womans_algorithm 5y ago
Every article of his has links to other articles, so it really is an endless content. So if you don't know what the linked article is about, read it.
[deleted] 5y ago
Thanks, that’s what I’ve been doing so far. Nice username btw.
[deleted] 5y ago
As a semi attractive red piller in a state in USA where I know nobody (relocation due to job), not much friends, (bartender is the person I interact with most).
I'm 25, 5'5"(yeah I know) , brown, abs and chest with definition, doing biz tech.
I meet women, go on dates, do get laid rarely and then (thanks to the bar and the bartender) but none of them want a long term or look at me as long term as I'm foreign and only 25.
I have noticed that the only ones who I have a chance with are really hot out of my smv women "who want to sleep once with a foreign guy". This happens too rare for me. Like once in 6 months if I cold approach a lot at the bar or keep endlessly swiping.
Any other woman who's perceived to be in my smv or below rejects dating me because she doesn't think it will work out even when I'm looking for a long-term dating.
What am I doing wrong? How to get to gf/fwb situation ?
postreformedpua 5y ago
Sounds like you need to get out of the bar and start opening girls during the day.
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In a bar it is easy to spot single women or initiate a conversation. Should I cold approach at my gym ? (I'm definitely threatened that I'd lose out being friends with the trainer and the owner if a cold approach goes bad). Work in a company with only men plus won't eat where I shit. How and where do you do cold approach during the day in a mid-sized city ?
[deleted] 5y ago
Raise your smv.
redhawkes 2 5y ago
Wait, do you initiate 'the talk'?
If you're fucking her like it's your last fuck, she'll return.
Always let the women initiate 'the talk', cos if you do it, it signals that you don't have other options (low smv) and you seem thirty.
[deleted] 5y ago
Oh fuck. Latest I have had sex is by the 3rd date.
Usually they cancel the fifth date like last minute and then I know that I'll never see them again. When I initiate again -like 4-6 days later, they're too busy or no reply. Edit : I make the plans or initiate for almost every date. Missed that detail. Now I understand.
redhawkes 2 5y ago
Read The Sex God Method. You can find the pdf in the sidebar.
HumanChampionship 5y ago
Sorry for my English, it's not my first language.
Been together 2 years (first gf) while at the same college but I want to fuck other girls and have more freedom to work on myself
She has been a good girlfriend but due to her mental weakness she is sometimes anxious and cries and other shit
I know I will break up with her soon but I am not sure if now is the right time. I still enjoy her company but don't feel the same way anymore.
We have a trip booked and payed for (split cost) and if I break with her now she has little friends, social life, or family (away from home).
She is trying to improve herself by going to therapy etc
Is it a good idea to wait and stay with her for a while until she gets better and after the trip and then break up?
There are a few girls I know who I can fuck, but I will not cheat, so I may miss the opportunity.
Mojiitoo 5y ago
It is best to break up, but she'll probably have a very bad time. Thus dont give any false hopes, but there is no need to completely ghost her; be to the point and clear but no need to be an asshole afterwards.
I had a girl like that too, but it is not worth it to stay with her out of pity. You only have limited time, enjoy now to its fullest!
And about that trip; either reimburse or go with her but only if you guys can go with no strings or false hopes attached (so as friends/fwb).
SnowMonkeyCracker 5y ago
Break up with her now and refund her share of the cost of the trip. It appears you are trying to justify the holiday you have already paid for rather than any concern about when is the correct time to break up. Consider the cost a lesson in not investing in a woman you are not serious about.
Her mental health issues will take years to resolve - if ever - so there is no right time to break up.
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kuba27950 5y ago
Maybe I got something wrong, and I'm new to TRP theory so please be patient with me.
I've seen all those rules saying "If you didn't have sex with her keep her just as an option" "Spin the plates" and almost all of these sound a bit... harsh for women.
I asked about this one girl that I liked and she didn't like me back, but we are close no matter what. And I was told to forget about her, block her on all socialmedia and just ignore. But the point is that girls aren't only our source of sex. How do you stick with TRP lifestyle and not be a total dick to girls that don't want to give you what you want?
Mr-Ed209 5y ago
It's not 'harsh for women' - that's just you falling for the shaming narrative of 'Men right! They only want one thing!'
And what one thing is that? Sex? Love from an intimate partner? An actual relationship with a girl they like?
The latter two are simply not possible without sex. As a man, everything you want from a woman revolves around sex being involved. Settling for 'friendship' is imasculating and humiliating. It's akin to being cuckolded in that you have a girl you are providing your time and attention to, who happens to fuck other people. You can be as liberal and new age as you like. But i think most men will struggle to shake the gut feeling of weakness this evokes.
As a man, you can give your body away freely, but never your time. Only those who earn it should be awarded your time. A girl is respectful, wants to sleep with you and shows you affection - earns your time. A girl who only asks for your attention when it benefits her, when others are going to be involved and who actively shuts down advances. She earns no time.
Womens 'body' are the prize. Men's 'time' is the prize. Many women give away their time freely doing unimportant shit. But as a man you should prize it, spend it only doing things or with people that bring value into your life.
ApexmanRP 5y ago
This debate you are having in your head about whether having sex with women means you are a dick, is pure Blue Pill conditioning.. keep reading the sidebar, Rational Male etc.
"not be a total dick to girls that don't want to give you what you want?"
As you have already been told next them, get on with something else.
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kuba27950 5y ago
You made a great point. I have to act the same way I'd like girls that I friendzoned to act. When a girl is flirting with me and I don't want nothing from her it only irritates me. I just have to treat this girl like a total bro.
And to clarify I said "Girls aren't ONLY our source of sex" meaning that there is more to them than just sex, not that we can have sex with something else (unless you are bi/gay) ????
5JS1XBG64A 5y ago
If you're always going to want something more, neither of you will ever be happy, and it may just be best to cut her off and move on. No anger or resentment, just a logical decision. If you can continue your friendship with her and GENUINELY be happy accepting that any kind of relationship will never happen, you're fine.
Having female friends is a very valuable thing. They provide a lot of opportunity, and contrary to what some here might think, they can just be great people to hang around in general. They can get you into parties and events, set you up with their friends, and put you in all kinds of advantageous situations. One of the best "wingmen" I've ever had was a female friend.
WarViper1337 5y ago
In my opinion you don't have to remove her from your life but you have set some really clear boundaries for yourself and stick to them. Women will friendzone you and still use you as their emotional tampon (they want the emotional benefits of a boyfriend but they won't fuck you for it). This is clearly a lopsided deal and can lead to bad case of oneitis that she will probably never reciprocate. You can still be friends but you have set some limits for her so that you are not limiting yourself in other areas of your life.
ImmunosuppressedTau 5y ago
If in your mind she is now a bro and you treat her no different than a bro then fine. But if you start to do her special favours no matter how small then you need to cut her out.
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ImmunosuppressedTau 5y ago
True - It goes back to the fact that no woman can treat a man the way he would like to be treated.
He provides real value in the relationship. Being her rock, providing her a solid foundation so she can feel safe and secure etc.
She mainly just shows up and absorbs this value. She makes his life more difficult than it would be without her. She feels that all she has to do I choose her man from a list of suitors and then after that just show up. Her job is now over and it is his job to maintain her interest.
kuba27950 5y ago
I see. So it's not a matter of cutting contact with her but more the attitude you have when you are with her. Thanks!
malay2 5y ago
My business partner is being a loudmouth lately in my small office. We have a mostly flat management system as it's a pretty small startup with 2 staff and a few interns. Some of his hecklers have been getting on my nerves but I just smile and play it off like a shit test from a bitch. What would be the best way to deal with it should it continue ?
Jailhouseredpilled93 5y ago
I wanted to start practicing social media game on random friends of friends on facebook. I scroll through the friend recommendations and find a cute girl, I friend request her and message her with a neg. I've done this five or six times and 2 accepted my friend request. The first one, I immediately went for the close and came off too aggressive, but like a thirsty beta aggressive, and she may have blocked me, I don't know and don't care. The second one I could tell was lonely, always posting about who wants to chill...I'm so bored...shit like that. My first comment on one of her posts was: Get a cat! smiley emoji. Two of her beta orbiter friends who are always liking and validating her posts reacted to it with a haha. Nothing from her. A month goes by and I maintain this frame with all my comments and posts. She posted whats everyone doing? I commented, Being awesome...its what I do. She liked it. The next week I post one of my lifestyle posts. Cycling is my hobby and I posted a scenery pic on one of my riding adventures. Another like. So the next day, mind you she lives in the same town as my mother and whom I visit every weekend, I'm at my moms house and I have a heavy bag in the back yard so I decide to post a video of me being a beast on the bag (I'm a beast). The next morning she messaged me. Her: Hay what's up... Me: whats up...Her: not much being bored af lookin for someone to chill lol...Me: Lol im working but we wil def chil...Her: when do you get out lol...Me: God youre so pushy lol...Her: my bad...Her: its a girl thing...Me: Im busy during the week but im free Sat ill huu...Her: Word...I said the same thing (Word) on one of her posts. I have zero logistics because I lost my license and i don't get it back for another month. I would like to bang this girl but should I wait and lose the opportunity to take advantage of her luteal phase that only lasts up to 17 days or is this girl a yes girl that I could prolly fuck in the woods? Im going fishing near my Moms place this weekend with some family and friends. To get there I'm going to cycle with my bike. Should I invite her? We could always go to her place provided she doesn't live with her parents, shes only 22.
NeedMyMorningCovfefe 5y ago
I'm travelling in Costa Rica - there are a shit tonne of ladies waiting to get fucked in every hostel. I have no problem chatting and getting to know them, but I have no idea how to escalate the conversation and move it on. Any quick tips? I'm new here so trying to use my limited new knowledge
MentORPHEUS Endorsed Contributor 5y ago
Kino (I dislike the term but didn't choose it) aka touching. Touch her, observe how she responds, and see if she reciprocally touches you. Also study push-pull to make it a mutual process; most guys make the mistake of being all push-push-push.
As the man, YOU are responsible for taking the initiative on escalation. Set an implied sexual tone early on. You'll virtually never NICE your way into a woman's pants, and there definitely exists a window of opportunity that you'll miss if you linger too long, waiting for an obvious sign from her that's never going to be offered.
345797982374 5y ago
How would you go about raising a daughter
womans_algorithm 5y ago
Rollo Tomassi wrote about it.
AllMadHare 5y ago
Be the kind of man you want her to marry, the father daughter relationship is very special, you ever notice the more fucked up the chick, the more fucked up her father figures are?
Remember that your daughter will learn how a man should treat her from how you treat her, so protect her, go that extra mile for her, but be firm and guide her when you need to(you want her to find someone who will care for them). You know all the stupid errands and tasks you shouldn't do for a random woman under TRP? Well this is the one woman in the entire world who actually deserves your time, attention and energy no matter what.
She is your child, which means she is the only person you should care for more than yourself. My wife is a wonderful woman, but if it came down to it, I wouldn't think twice about kicking her off a cliff if it would save my daughter's life.
Finally, when she gets older, teach her about SMV, help her navigate through those early years of dumb disicions by raising her into a confident, disciplined and secure woman who can pick the 'perfect' man to make her happy and protect her as you did.
345797982374 5y ago
Thanks appreciate the input.
CharCanDo 5y ago
I am having a lot of success resonating with the teachings of Zen Buddhism, but I would like to know if there are any sources wherein Zen masters speak frankly and honestly about women. Obviously a google search turned up only pages of links explaining how Buddha was fallible and that women can be Zen masters, but if anyone has a realistic discussion on the matter of Zen and women I would be much obliged.
SelfMastered 5y ago
How to appropriately dread game in a LTR that’s rocky?
womans_algorithm 5y ago
Mr. Tomassi wrote a lot about it.
SelfMastered 5y ago
Ya, I’ve been meaning to get it ,will this weekend
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blkMGTOW07 5y ago
Any form of exercise is good for you regardless of what it is as long as you practice good form. But yes bodyweight exercise is good until you find a gym or create a home gym.
SnowMonkeyCracker 5y ago
It is good for creating discipline and good habits.
It is good for preparing underused ligaments and muscles.
And in a perfect world, even after moving to free weights, cardio is still a good thing.
It is all good.
AllMadHare 5y ago
Push-ups are bread and butter, if they get easy google how to get them to be harder. If it's hard, then it's worth doing, simple as.
Mojiitoo 5y ago
Checkout some High intensity interval training workouts (HIIT), for example on youtube. IMO excellent for bodyweight training and very good for your stamina & can be done at home.
Hashfit has a very nice variety of vids and free 30 and 90 day programs from 20-40 minutes a day. Seriously recommend.
ManguZa 5y ago
Dumbells are lifting.
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stingfucksuplol 5y ago
What should I do on my last day of college?
womans_algorithm 5y ago
I'm having troubles with my dick staying hard when fucking.
I have a young LTR. At the start, I had no problem staying hard for 10 - 20 min, then I had a few weeks when I couldn't get it up as much as I wanted to. Now, it gets hard, but after 2 minutes it gets soft, and after 2-3 min it gets hard again.
Besides lifting and checking my testosterone level, what can I do about it? Any exercises? I heard kegal exercises are for lasting longer (not cumming as fast), do they work for staying hard longer as well?
Mojiitoo 5y ago
Probably mental. A self fulfilling prophecy; 'I hope my lil bro works today' -> anxiety about boner -> no boner.
I've had it too, mostly at one night stands. Some tips:
-dont watch porn -do NOT smoke, a real boner killer -change your mindset (instead of described above to yeah Ima fuck the shit outta her)
You can always try out some viagra. If its mental the mindset is most important.
AllMadHare 5y ago
Cialis 5mg daily is cheap af and keeps you on point, I'm a slow riser (if that's a thing) and take a long time to finish, couldn't have asked for a better solution. You don't even actually need it daily tbh, cialis lasts like 36 hours and 5mg will work plenty for an otherwise healthy person. Sometimes just knowing you can take it is all you need.
Also, eat better, exercise more, drink less.
madrealworld 5y ago
fix your diet. get your vitamins and minerals right(especially vitamin d +magnesium+zinc)
ApexmanRP 5y ago
First thing is get your testosterone checked..
Assuming you are in reasonable shape, it could be this.
abhishek9129 5y ago
Meditate, it helped me go hard more than 90 mins
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womans_algorithm 5y ago
I am doing (almost) what I want with her, not asking her for anything.
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O--- 5y ago
Probably stating the obvious here, but since no-one yet mentioned it: jack off less.
buttgoogler 5y ago
This. Death grip used to be an issue for me as well. Plus if you're using condoms, check if they fit your size because it might be a problem too.
womans_algorithm 5y ago
I jerk off maybe once a week. Have plenty of sex on weekends with LTR though.
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SimpleJacked 5y ago
Is she fat? She may not be your type. Worked at first cuz new pussy.
Most ED issues are mental. Try to figure it out and say that's fucking stupid and push through. If no then just find another girl.
womans_algorithm 5y ago
She has some fat on her, but I am still attracted to her. I don't know if I should ask this, but: I heard family problems can cause ED issues, is this true?
SimpleJacked 5y ago
Anything that messes with your head can cause it. Every guy experiences it a few times in life it is just more worrying when it lasts for a few weeks. Do what you can to de-stress and be in a good mood. Even if whatever is bothering you gets better you may still stress about how it happened last time which causes it again.
botferrero 5y ago
You could read No More Mr Nice Guy. There’s a chapter about ED causes that could be mental or family issues. You could also spend less time with your LTR, maybe you are used to her.
womans_algorithm 5y ago
I bought that book the first month i discovered TRP, will check it out again for this chapter you mentioned. I see my ltr on weekends, dont think thats too much.
Freenorthman 5y ago
Try a cockring maybe or 'supplements'
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askmrcia 5y ago
Try horny goat weed and drink some water (more then what you were drinking). After a day or two of not masturbating you should be fine.
If you're extra concern try eating some bandannas and strawberries. Don't know why but it helps me for some reason.
uchat24 5y ago
I don’t know if this is the right place to ask this, but I feel you guys could prolly give me the best advice.
Whenever I’m in a conservation, I have realized that I offer absolutely no value and can’t give my opinion on something because I can’t think for shit. I have no originality because I have never been able to actually think.
What should I do?
womans_algorithm 5y ago
Listen to philosophy shows, they teach you how to think. Stefan Molyneux on youtube is a great source, he has podcasts with listeners and he analyses their lifes perfectly.
memo009 5y ago
Read more books, write about the stuff you know. Watch how other people talk. Spent some time away from people who dominate you in a conversation, you will get opporutnities to talk more. Talk to everyone as practice, even the people who dont know to make small talk.
-ankylos- 5y ago
A lot of the RP reading I have done has really hammered home the point, that in order to really be a man, you require a purpose. Something that you hold more important than anything else in your life.
I am finding this a sticking point, as I have for most of my conscious life.
I'm finding it exhilarating to slowly accept the more masculine aspects of myself, to admit to myself that these thoughts and urges belong to me, and that I am allowed to accept them, and assimilate them into my personality. But I'm still struggling to pull out a larger purpose, a life direction.
I feel that if I had that I would bring more movement into my life, taking the steps necessary towards a fulfilling career. I'm 22, and I want to get this show on the road, but I'm apprehensive about dedicating myself to something I will regret later. I don't want to be a corporate employee.
I was wondering whether any of you fellas had any advice, or questions that might help me flesh out these queries a bit better?
womans_algorithm 5y ago
Try a lot of different things, if you find real satisfaction in any of them, stick to it.
VengefullyY0urs 5y ago
33 and had an ltr for about a year. In my eyes it was off and on (left in a bad note and no contact for week or more at a time).
During this time I spun plates and a lot of them, and when she came back to the fold I stopped spinning.
She found out about everything after some snooping around on my device and ended it, got back together, was madly in love and then ended it again with blocking me. She reached out and I set up a time to meet this Friday to see what the deal is before resuming plate spinning.
Would I like to work it out with her? Yes, but I am not sure if that is possible and I am sensing the light switch in full effect.
womans_algorithm 5y ago
Tomassi's iron rule: it's better to search for new women than to go back to the one you already broke up with. (I'm paraphrasing)
Also, isn't your name from one of the more famous TRP endorsed contributors?
VengefullyY0urs 5y ago
As a rule I would follow the iron rule, but technically the split hasn’t happened and is probably going down tomorrow.
I have heard that multiple times about my name though
womans_algorithm 5y ago
How is this not splitting up?
VengefullyY0urs 5y ago
I took the break up as shit tests since they didn’t last more gab a couple days
womans_algorithm 5y ago
Please let me know if the split up will be today, I an eager to test my TRP knowledge.
VengefullyY0urs 5y ago
I think it’s going to happen today.
This girl thought I was steady for he last year when to me it was very on and off so it basically looks like I cheated in her mind
VengefullyY0urs 5y ago
Update - She canceled plans and then wrote “I want to be your friend”.
I declined, deleted and moved on. This was a an interesting example of briffaults law, post selection (constant sex for a month after she found out about the others), and then lightswitch, going from getting her brains fucked out and I love yous to “I can’t talk to you anymore” in a matter of hours.
womans_algorithm 5y ago
I suspect her first option said yes to her?
VengefullyY0urs 5y ago
It was an usual circumstance. Slut tells galore but that comes with my territory. She made six figures so there was never a need for beta bux until she found out I was spinning other plates when I didn’t think I would ever see her again (she would pull vanishing acts and I wouldn’t hear from her for days).
Once she found out, she really laid on the “I need to trust you” comfort tests. I complied, and I think she lost attraction.
I am sure she had a steady roster of scrubs and maybe when she runs through her orbiters she will come back. Or not, either way, I am back on my grind steadily lifting and spinning.
womans_algorithm 5y ago
Tell me how do you feel about next sentence:
I think you actually care about this woman and you want to continue to see her. She doesn't want to though, so you use plates to make you feel better.
If you think for a minute about your feelings, how far am I from the truth?
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What do you guys think of the women on the RedPillWives subreddit? Does anyone here have the type of relationship they strive for over there?
EQFEQR 5y ago
I come from a redpilled family it’s works as long as the dad stays in power.
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Atheist_Utopia 5y ago
Theoretically speaking, if being a nice guy can't win you the intimacy of a girl, doesn't it mean that logically you should be able to win her over by being aloof?
MentORPHEUS Endorsed Contributor 5y ago
Short answer: kinda.
It's much more complicated in reality. It's not the aloofness itself, it's the implied confidence and abundance that makes it attractive. Be busy, prosperous, and lead a genuinely interesting life. Pussy will come, but remember it is a lagging indicator of success in life.
Atheist_Utopia 5y ago
So when you are busy, properous and leading a nice life (the exact opposite of neediness), can you afford to be almost completely passive regarding women, and having them chase you? As in the 'build it and they will come' mentality.
I'm definitely still improving frame and game, but I'm just wondering how succesful this approach has worked so far for the people here.
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This is my mindset also, so I empathise. I assume you're afraid of rejection. As a man, in life you must take control of your own destiny, sometimes you have to "risk it to get the biscuit." Its a lot easier said than done however, I know I struggle with neglect and so for me, subconsciously, rejection means death... I'm yet to consult a psychologist as I'm still young.
Atheist_Utopia 5y ago
You'd think it is a fear of rejection, but I'm really just trying to prove TRP theories for myself. I've experienced plenty of rejection in the past, so I've gotten numbed to that feeling already.
I'm trying to find out how much I can get girls attracted to me by remaining passive in places where I'm not going to date them anyways, such as my workplace and my classroom. I'll use the outcome for future reference, when I actually start spinning the plates.
So I'd like for you to answer the question, because so far I haven't been able to piece it together from the 1001'st red pill thread so far.
EDIT: + validation from female attraction just feels good.
MentORPHEUS Endorsed Contributor 5y ago
The important difference is to be ACTUALLY busy, prosperous, and leading a nice life, so you are organically busy with scarce free time.
Trying to fake being busy tends to misfire and make you seem strange or "off" rather than cool and mysterious.
Remember to have a mission in life and strive toward it. Women are NOT your mission!
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[deleted] 5y ago
How do all of you balance out the lonely hours required to build new skills while building a social life from next to scratch ?
Im having a hard time spending 12 hours a day building new skills because I need to raise my MarketValue in life in general but at the same time finding friends who are not always busy with their own lives...
Does one come after the other ? Should I just keep my eyes down and raise that Value ?
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Yeah takes a lot more than a month but I get your point. currently in one-just figured I should build everything together instead of fracturing the progress.
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Indeed I do haha.
can you define necessary changes? Are you talking about my skills or my social life?
If you're talking about social life I agree- 4 weeks and in any major city you can have an all new social life filled with events and things to do. Which is why I'm not overly concerned if I delay this, the turnaround period is quite small in the grand scheme of things.
As for skills, unless I can bend time itself; the deliberate practice required for my skills is going to take a lot more than 4 weeks.
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It might be worth noting that I'm 21 years old and I have to work 12 hours a day just to even get my business running from scratch. Plus I've only been at the business for about a month or so hence the 12 hours- I need the initial hours put in in just to get this plane off the ground. I am not making six figures but thats ok for now- as long as I can pay rent, clean food, gym, etc I'm a happy camper for about the first 6 months or so, afterwards I need to grow.
I wholeheartedly agree about women-they come & go. My personal life is kind of a hectic mess so I guess I will indeed focus on that.
Proto_Sigma 5y ago
Find ways to build skills socially. Take a class and get to know the other people there, maybe form study groups, have people you compete with and who can help you. I can't get any more specific than that since 'skills' is kind of a vague category. YMMV.
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Skills like my coding skills, business projects, etc. That's what I'm working on for 12H a day-leaves little time for anything else and what free time I do have is inconvenient for the few friends that I have so I don't really see anybody right now-that's the problem.
Thanks for the input about social skills though
NxtUp15 5y ago
What does it mean when a girl calls you a creep when you have done nothing creepy ? Is she shit testing me?
Peter_B_Long 5y ago
You're probably being too bold without building up attraction first.
If a hot guy were to do something "creepy", the girl would say that he's being sexy.
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WarViper1337 5y ago
Women automatically label all men as creeps unless you are in the top 10% of attractiveness. If your coming across to strong to fast then you are on a one way to trip to creep town in her mind. You will have to find a way to catch her interest and make her want to talk to you.
SnowMonkeyCracker 5y ago
It is okay to be an asshole. It is okay to be a douchebag. But it is never okay to be a "creep". Women never have a double meaning with that word.
You may have accidentally or deliberately triggered her creep response. Somewhere you have misread a social cue or stepped too far out of your SMV level.
That girl (and her immediate social network) is off limits for the foreseeable future. Don't panic. There are plenty of other fish in the sea.
Or maybe she is just a vicious bitch. Either way, next!
kyleisonline 5y ago
I'm an incel living in LA and working in entertainment. I've been texting with this girl for a bit, but can't get it to the next level. Whenever I cool off, she texts me a random conversation starter, but once I start paying attention she will ignore me for days. I don't know how to fix this power dynamic.
SnowMonkeyCracker 5y ago
Welcome to the friendzone. Nobody escapes. She is using you as her emotional tampon. Block her number.
WarViper1337 5y ago
You have been put in the friendzone. While she is ignoring you she is taking cock from some other guy(s) and then comes back to you when she gets bored. I know it it sucks but focus your efforts somewhere else and just get her off your mind. Nothing you do at this point will ever convince her to change her mind about you.
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michaelkc03 5y ago
Where can I find local red pill dudes to game/lift with...just moved to new city
SnowMonkeyCracker 5y ago
Do your own thing. The dudes that are in your surroundings are therefor the most "red-pill" you will find.
michaelkc03 5y ago
Right, which I’ve been doing. I’ve gone to Meetups etc, lifting...just hard to get that bro bond as you get older (I’m 24)...but then again I’ve only been here a month.
DirtJellyBeanz 5y ago
Lets hear it boys, list your favorite books - Mine, The Rational Male.
_nein_danke 5y ago
What do you guys recommend if you're in a relationship and you suspect (but don't know) that you're GF is cheating on you? Or wants to? Whats the Red Pill way of reacting to this, without coming across as a huge paranoid asshole?
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ManguZa 5y ago
Think and look about other options.
Work on yourself, if she cheat on you it's because you're not attractive enough.
clammastak 5y ago
Start making her think ur cheating on her back
WarViper1337 5y ago
Terrible advice. This only causes resentment, distrust, and usually results in the relationship self destructing. He should instead strive to better himself. Become a man of such high value that cheating becomes a risky proposition.
lionsfan2016 5y ago
which mediation or other techniques help with dealing with anger and frustration.
Peter_B_Long 5y ago
Look up an app for guided meditation like "Headspace" or "Insight Timer"
womans_algorithm 5y ago
Gym.
trpboy123 5y ago
If I want a woman to do me a favor or lend me something and she says no(nicely) even though she can do it, how should I reply back? Should I just say "okay" and move on(this feels like a BP behavior to me) or should I force her to do it without losing my frame?
jwarner95 5y ago
If you know she can do it you're obviously paying way too much attention to her in the first place.
ManguZa 5y ago
Don't ask for favor to a woman.
Either she offer it or you manage alone (or with your buddys).
If it's your gf/wife then you can lead her (don't ask either) If she say no, you manage alone and say no each time she ask for something after that, she'll learn. Of course your lead must be appropriate.
Cesare_MA 5y ago
How would you react if a guy said no when you asked a favor?
“Ah okay no worries.”
trpboy123 5y ago
Oh okay thanks mate
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kjlh9 5y ago
Look up the term "love bombing"
AllMadHare 5y ago
If you took the time to write all that... I think you know the answer.
I've been with women who "struggle to get over" someone, it's a dumb game used to try and make you 'outdo' their ex, it's just dread game in reverse, they want you to worry they're thinking about the ex so that you try and do something big to get her attention.
One day she might "get over" her ex, but she'll just find a new drama to attach herself to. She's not going to fundamentally change who she is. The only way to win is to walk away.
WarViper1337 5y ago
Possible redflags: She came straight to you after a fucked up relationship (she wanted to marry and already married man). She didn't take any time off to get her head on straight after leaving the other guy. You both seem to be rushing into things and probably need to slow down. Her high N-count is somewhat worrying (always multiply what they say by 2 and multiply 3 if they rank as an 8 or above). She may be motivated by the fact that she is quickly approaching the age where "the wall" is a very real threat.
She does sound like a decent catch despite her questionable former relationship if she can prove she is indeed loyal to you. Coming straight from a break up it would make sense for her to need some time to adjust to a new man in her life. If she really does see you as her alpha then her actions should prove it in time. Does she treat you as her alpha partner? Does she do things to try and please you without asking? Does she show good parenting skills for your children? Does she want children of her own and are you willing to have more?
SnowMonkeyCracker 5y ago
Can't help but notice you are also alpha widowed by that guy. He is living rent free inside your head. I've got some bad news; you do not "pale in comparison to that guy". I doubt he even knows you exist but you are constantly thinking about him.
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Twobithatter 5y ago
How you keep yourself from not getting baby trapped by plates. I’ve noticed as I continue to advance in my job and get paid better money, all these exes or old plates want to have sex. At first I was into the idea but then a friend mentioned how it was funny that word gets around about my future and these girls come out the woods to “hang out”. So once again how do you keep yourself from getting trapped by a plate when you have money and looks?
blkMGTOW07 5y ago
Simple. Condoms dude. Practice safe sex. And if you have no plans of having children, then consider a vacestomy. But only if you are sure you don't want kids whatsoever.
The only way to completely avoid getting a girl pregnant is to stop having sex altogether, so you're always taking a risk.
MentORPHEUS Endorsed Contributor 5y ago
Aside from a vasectomy and your own carefully guarded condoms, vetting is the next best thing. Learn your partners' fertility cycles and KNOW when they are ovulating, and never nut anywhere near her during. Take note which women are outright lying about when they are fertile, and which ones are clueless. A defensively angry "I KNOW MY BODY!" yet she doesn't make the connection that she's mainly horny during ovulation like every female in her lineage back to Mitochondrial Eve is shockingly common among young women.
kuba27950 5y ago
I'm new to TRP but am willing to live my life with those rules. But I was wondering how an experienced TRP user would solve my problem. There is a girl I have some feelings for. We are meeting often but those are not dates. They are not dates because she is in a complicated relation with my close friend where they are not officially dating, and he told me that he doesn't want to and she is his buttycall, but she has some feelings for him. Feelings she can't explain bc when I asked her she couldn't say "I want something more from him" but she couldn't tell that she doesn't care about him. And I know that she has feelings for me too (she told me like two months ago), but she acts more physical with him and they actually act like a couple when they are together. And now the question is what should I do? I'm ready to be called a dumbass but I want to know what you think. Maybe I should add that it's not like I'm scared to do anything and I'm not letting her controlle me, but I feel like I shouldn't e.g kiss her when she told me "we are kind of a couple but it's very complicated" How would experienced TRP user play this out.
BornShook 5y ago
Dont play her games. You're the prize not her. Make her compete for you rather than try to compete for her, but this might not work so just dont give a fuck, and find some more bitches to game.
5JS1XBG64A 5y ago
All the other advice you've been given (i.e. drop her immediately) is good. If you've been reading a lot, you've probably come across this phrase: "You can't negotiate attraction". Internalize this. It's important.
WarViper1337 5y ago
Welcome to beta orbiting my friend. She has effectively made you her emotional tampon while fucking your friend. I know this sounds rough and I am not trying to insult you but knowing the truth is the path to enlightenment. There have already been some good replies here and I highly suggest you follow their advice. She will never be yours and even if she does try to date you, you will always be second place in her mind, a place holder until something better comes along later.
One more thing. Never let a woman destroy a friendship with your fellow man because this is exactly how it happens. Drop her from your mind and improve on yourself. Become the 1st place prize that women seek and don't waste one more second of time with her on your mind.
kuba27950 5y ago
I guess the problem is simple as that... Hard to take but I know you are right. Thanks for helping!
womans_algorithm 5y ago
You are her second option, a backup option. Her saying "I have feelings for you too" should mean nothing to you. Observe what she does, not what she says. And right now, she is trying to get into relationship with her first option, while keeping you as a backup plan. Do you not feel humiliated by her actions? To be a backup, a 2nd class citizen? You think people who like each other keep each other as a backup plan?
So what should you do? The answer should be obvious, but still let me say it just in case: drop her, she will never be yours. Even if her 1st option drops her and she pairs with you, you will be just a dude to her. You can do better than that.
What to do: block/remove her from phone and social media, focus on your hobbies (you do have them, right?), gym, having fun with friends, approaching girls at parties, etc. Live your life for you.
kuba27950 5y ago
I was afraid of getting answer like this but I KNOW you are right. I keep telling myself that I don't want her I just want a girl. And despite the fact that she is acting like she wants me sometimes facts are that she is totally acting like BF and GF with this dude. I think I'm just gonna stop thinking about it and stop giving a F*** Thanks for answer
womans_algorithm 5y ago
Good for your. We've all been there, when we asked a question, knowing an answer but still hoping we're wrong. I did the same thing. You learn, you grow.
MentORPHEUS Endorsed Contributor 5y ago
Classic Oneitis. Go to the AskTRP sidebar and read "There's this one girl..."
Then... mostly ignore this woman and pursue other leads. She'll probably find another orbiter rather than run into your arms.
It's a life-wasting strategy to play the heir-apparent to women in suboptimal relationships, hoping you'll be next and better. They'll gladly suck up all the energy you pour into them, only to stick with the bad boyfriend, or break up with that one and already be in a relationship with another loser.
Keep canvassing for women who are right now AVAILABLE and INTERESTED.
kuba27950 5y ago
It's fascinating how you guys have everything worked out. I mean I felt so dumb when I was reading that note from the sidebar and it fit my problem perfectly. I really need to dig hard in this stuff and stop worrying. Thanks man!
MentORPHEUS Endorsed Contributor 5y ago
Through hard lessons and making mistakes, my man. I dealt with all of this before the WWW existed; young men with TRP available to them are at a huge advantage in the SMP.
MarcosDomingues 5y ago
You are basically being her emotional tampon cuck friend, meanwhile your close friend is fucking every single hole of hers.
Those feelings she said that she had from you, was just bullshit to keep you around her listening to her useless drama
kuba27950 5y ago
That drama part actually doesn't match bc she seems like the most unproblematic girl I've met But all of you saying I'm her backup are right. And either I'm gonna make a move that will satisfy my needs and show her that im the prize. Or I just have to move on
MarcosDomingues 5y ago
Women can only love one guy at a time. Other guys can only be either her emotional support or her ATM card.
Even if she ends up wanting you, she will always come back to him
[deleted] 5y ago
I’m also new so take my advice with a grain of salt. Don’t worry about the outcome of this one event, rather do everything you can to learn from it. About girls, frame, etc.
kuba27950 5y ago
So you think I should do whatever I think is best for me and see the outcome? And then if it's wrong than learn from it and if it's great that I've got a girl so no problem?
[deleted] 5y ago
Precisely. But as I said take my advice with a grain salt. That’s what I’ve been doing with my relationships with girls (friends or not). But that being said I’m off the college soon so I’m not to attached to the outcome to begin with.
kuba27950 5y ago
I will try! Thanks for help. I think I'm gonna start by asking this friend of mine if he is okay with that. Because it's one think to lose a girl and to lose a friend because of her. And if he confirmes that he is not planning anything with her than I'm going to step in
CoolHatEffect 5y ago
So I was an usher at a Mother's Day service at my church this past Sunday. I had one rose left in the bouquet I had and none of the adult women wanted any more roses so I planned on asking out my crush with it. This girl rolls up out of nowhere, takes the rose while giving me the most obvious "fuck me" eyes I have ever seen with there being like a millimeter of space seperating our faces. My crush saw this happen and unadded me on all social media after church. I now know that she does like me, otherwise she wouldn't have had that reaction. How do I explain everything and ask her out next time I see her (Saturday)?
WarViper1337 5y ago
Never explain yourself. Just ask her out. You are the prize and not her. If you come groveling to her trying to explain what happened then she will have no respect for you. If she says something about it just say "oh yeah that girl took that rose without my permission and I didn't care for it" but nothing more.
Conversely what is wrong with the girl who took the rose from you? Is she not attractive? Could you perhaps be overlooking a good opportunity and you are just being blinded by your oneitis for your crush?
CoolHatEffect 5y ago
I am simply not attracted to the girl that took the rose from me. Even if I were to take her on her offer, I cannot get it up for a girl I don't find even remotely attractive. Also, I really don't want my crush thinking that I have a thing with this girl when I feel nauseous even thinking about her.
WarViper1337 5y ago
Totally understandable.
Just remember you should strive to be the alpha male here. Don't even care or mention that she removed you from whatever social media you were friends on. Approach her with confidence (not to be confused with cockyness) and make her laugh. You do just those two things and you stand a good chance of taking things further with her.
If things don't work out don't succumb to oneitis. Move on with your life and keep making yourself a better man.
CoolHatEffect 5y ago
Seems like sounds advice. Thanks!
gainzsince2001 5y ago
I’m 16 in high school and there’s this girl I am really attracted to. I am fairly confident she finds me physically attractive, as i train 5-7 days a week, do cardio and diet in a (natural) bodybuilding effort(I am extremely passionate about bodybuilding and dedicated). I am 5’10 and 186lbs at 12% bodyfat. The first time I ever saw her I was at a football game to hang out with my girl(now ex) after and I was with my friend on the bleachers and he had her and other mutual friends next to us. We didn’t talk however. Soon after she added me on ig and snapchat but I never hit her up because I was indifferent to that at the time as I had a girlfriend. Now months later, I’ve been lowkey crushing on her but I don’t have any classes or anything with her so I don’t really know how to start talking to her(I don’t chase after girls they usually hit me up first). Also, what kinda is making me a little skeptical about talking to her is that we are about the same height, she may even have an inch of height on me. So the advice I’m asking for is how should I start talking to her because it would really be out of the blue she doesn’t go to my gym or anything and I don’t have classes with her? Also what about the height difference? Is it an issue? Fuck I feel pussy for asking this shit but she’s on my mind and soooo fine. Appreciate any help
MentORPHEUS Endorsed Contributor 5y ago
Go to the AskTRP sidebar and read "There's this one girl..."
Approach her and be done with it. You don't need classes together as a pretext. Meanwhile work on other prospects.
(Edit- originally responded to wrong question.)
unsolicitedcoonery 5y ago
Approach her IRL, build rapport & then hit her up
Proto_Sigma 5y ago
Go for it. Just open her and see what happens. "Hey, what's going on?" The height issue is only an issue if you make it an issue
Also, be careful. You've got the early symptoms of oneitis, which ironically enough will hurt you in your attempts to get the girl. However hot she may be, just remember that there are plenty of other women out there, and that she isn't all that special.
gainzsince2001 5y ago
True thanks man and yeah I had the worst case of oneitis with my first LTR a little over a year ago after discovering TRP I’m much more self aware of that
falconiawillfall 5y ago
This isn't meant to brag but I have above average facial asthetics to the point I've been told to model by girls a few times. Even in my no-lifting beta days I would have girls staring at me constantly. Of course as a beta, I had zero confidence to actually go try and bang.
I'm new to TRP so I still have a lot of room for improvement, especially in terms of game, but I am confused on how to tell the difference between girls who just like the attention vs. those who are actually looking for more? In a club, most women will usually be ogling me and if I pick one, maintain eye contact and get the inevitable look back, it still doesn't guarantee she wants to grind.
Iwannachokekatie 5y ago
You can tell by actually approaching you and finding out by escalation.