What I wouldn't give to have discovered TRP at 18, or in high school.

I've only now discovered it in my mid-20s. Thankfully have not been divorce raped or suffered any significant losses (besides tons of emotional pain/frustration coming from the BP matrix slowly cracking over time).

The best case scenario for men in the US/west these days is to discover TRP BEFORE Marriage. If you did, consider yourself lucky and thank the God damn stars and any diety you believe in.

I can only imagine what it would feel like to invest the time and energy into a marriage, maybe even buy a home, start a family only to realize you married a Basic Bitch who's secretly been getting dick on the side. To those men who discovered TRP after marriage and were able to pick up the broken shards of their life and move forward, I salute you. Not sure if I would've been strong enough to go through that

The truth will set you free. Knowing what you do when you're 18 is more beneficial in the long run than finally putting the puzzle pieces together in middle age as I've had to. My only retribution is to teach my son (not much older than you are) the lessons I've learned. A saying I have heard goes something like this "Life's not fair," which is followed by the following continuation " . . . and don't you ever forget that."

Striving to be your best, lifting, focusing on career, etc. will give back. Focus on those things that will give you a return on investment. Women will rarely do that. Relational dynamics can become clouded when all you want to do is "do it," especially at your age. (Been there, dealt with that). It is the wise man can use this knowledge to transcend the inherent societal belief systems that we all learn is total and utter bullshit. Good luck, young brother!!

23 here. Almost finishing college. Found TRP by accident. My epub spider picked up rollo's book from a torrent . The title looked interesting. Fast forward 1 year & here. Things could have been a whole lot different if I found Trp at your age. That bitterness will go away. Count your blessings

Um, it's kind of your fault for having extremely delusional feelings about one girl who's just a normal human being, who's not perfect. Like, you barely knew this girl and you claimed that you loved her and would stop the world for her?? That's on you man. Those are not normal feelings to have about someone you barely know. And um, you're mad because she had sex with other dudes? You never even knew her and you expected her to save herself for you? That's a straight up fantasy. And again, that's on you.

Welcome to reality. They don't call it Redpill for no reason. Make what you can of it. And leave this world better than how you entered.

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I don't know why people complain about the anger phase. What comes out of it is pure, unadulterated nightmare fuel. Nothing in my life has driven me more to higher achievement than the agony at hearing that the cute girl I thought was a unicorn actually loved getting rough fucked by some sleezeball's big dick and the shame and humiliation that I wasn't good enough.

The anger phase is a gift most men will never even be aware of. It's the cold relentless truth of our real place in the universe. You can choose to wallow in self pity, or forge yourself on the anvil of hardship and become something you've only dreamed of.

OP and everyone else, I don't exactly "get" how you all go from "I was x and y, had oneitis etc" to "I'm spinning plates."

Like shit, I'm 19, and although I don't live in the us but instead eastern europe, it shouldnt be too different, right?

I'm going to the gym and getting the rest of my shit together that is not related to women, but this shit escapes me.

Does it have everything to do with approach anxiety and wether you have it or not? Escalation anxiety as well.

Maybe living with parents also sub-concously limits me since I know I can't go with a girl home?

Maybe it's also because I don't go out too often?

I don't know, I feel like I can 'look' the part, but not act it, and it sucks.

Finding TRP at such a young age is a blessing and a curse. You may not feel it right now, but you’re going to avoid a lot of the pitfalls guys stumble through that eventually leads them here later on in life. The amount of value you can amass by the time you’re 25 could be exponential if you stay the course

Got a LTR since 9 months and no matter how alpha i am she shit-tests me daily and now isn't as clingy as before. She's very insecure as a person, fucked 25 dudes in her past, cheated once in a LTR 5 years ago but nonetheless we've had a very good LTR until now.

Her shit-tests are next to disrespectful and i don't take any of that shit.. angry, raising her voice, etc. As soon as she starts arguments for nothing i just click her until she starts behaving. Now she starts clicking me too if i don't act as she wants. Haha, i laugh it away and don't call back. Starting to sense she is gonna go after Chad Thundercock soon since some of her whereabouts and duties don't add up sometimes. Hell, she even decided to put on location on whatsapp so i can see where she is even though i don't give a fuck and am busy doing my shit.

Time to demote her to plate or nuke the LTR?

You are becoming a man.

You know why the Spartans sent out their boys out into the wilds to hunt and kill Helots? Or some African tribes send out their boys to kill dangerous wild animals? All before they can be considered men? Because boys need separation, isolation and TRAUMA to accept the world as it is not as they have been deluded it is.

This is a problem in the cucked west because boys graduate from high school noddle-arms to shrilly SJW College kids to basement dwelling neck beards to wage-cuck cubicle monkeys. These are the rites of passage in modern America/ Europe

And that is also why you should ignore your beta fag friend and DON'T EVER try to unplug him. He needs the trauma that is coming his way so that he can be a man.

Let me give you some hope kid. What you have seen can’t be unseen. It is what it is and you will be DRASTICALLY better off down the road for seeing it now.

The important thing is to stay the course and one day you will wake up and none of this will bother you as much. You will accept it. And learn to actually have fun with it. Use it to your advantage. And play the game better than them. So for now, stay course. Keep pushing. Keep reading. Keep improving.

Next as far as the love thing goes. Believe it or not there are tons of women out there who won’t just jump on the next best dick. And as long as you’re the best version of yourself they will stick by you. And if they don’t. You will be too high value to care.

But there are some loyal women out there. That being said you have to win her attraction everyday so as long as you’re keeping your shit tight you won’t have to worry as much. Most of the guys in this world aren’t shit. They’re all beta. They all don’t KNOW what you KNOW. And that alone will allow you to have a healthier relationship than these guys you’re comparing too.

So yes AWALT you can’t just be loved for being a lazy piece of shit who buries your women in flowers. But AWALT doesn’t mean all women will cheat. Or act like pieces of shit. AWALT means THEY CAN. So just be aware and be your best you. And you can live even better and happier given what you know.

We live in such a fake fucking reality and it's disgusting to see. It's disgusting to see how my brothers are letting themselves be dominated and crushed by women, and it's disgusting to see how badly women just want somebody to lead them but they can't find a man to do so.

You may be exasperating your state of mind out of boredom.

You mentioned weight lifting and nothing else. Start learning how to build your empire.

Practice some of the other Red Pill teachings and not just 100% female observation.

The anger phase occurs because your expectations are still out of synch with reality. You are expecting women to behave like men - with reciprocity, honour, and rationality - and then getting disappointed when they do the exact opposite every single time.

Embrace women as the emotional, irrational, chronically-dependent toddlers that they are. When you stop pinning your adult hopes on them, you can start enjoying them for the levity, arbitrariness, playfulness, and ridiculousness that they excel in.

Women are here to entertain you, not for you to depend on. Save your adult expectations for males.

Nothing opens your heart up as much as fondling nice tight chest of a hb9 girl who's happy with her boyfriend of 6 months for half an hour on a school trip.

Does anybody else get the feeling that a large percentage of posts on TRP are written by the same kiddo? With like three dozen accounts?

Assuming that this is not the case and a response to OP-

Hey man. You are just 18. If you are going to look back on this post- If you can establish yourself a high quality and good man... you will meet "AMAZING" women who are anything but primitive. Sure, everybody has primitive emotions and instincts and you better respect it because that's the fun stuff.

Not all women are lowly creatures man. In fact, part of the warriors journey involves becoming more spiritually enlightened through sexual relationships with women.

The good women that a man takes to his bed build and break. It's the cycle of life.

It's no more of a curse than also knowing you're going to die one day. Inevitable shittiness all around. Here's a handy little quote I've had in FB profile for like a decade. It sucks but it sums everything up nicely:

"Man can will nothing unless he has first understood that he must count on no one but himself; that he is alone, abandoned on earth in the midst of his infinite responsibilities, without help, with no other aim than the one he sets himself, with no other destiny than the one he forges for himself on this earth."

Can I just go back? Can I go back to not knowing anything?

Boy have you even seen the matrix? That's literally the point of TRP. It's why it was called that!

Fuck man, I turned 16 a while ago. This really resonated with me

God damnit you're right man. I was at the top of my performance a year ago and I've let it all fall down and I've gained twenty pounds. Fuck it, I'm done with all of the retarded semantics. It's time to get serious about my shit. Thanks for the post OP.

I agree 100% but I'm just not sure how to deal with it, I'm 25 now and my last ex cheated on me and since then I couldn't trust any woman. And almost every day it shows more evidence that there are very little if even none women left who aren't cheating whores.

It crushes me when my whole life has been about finding 'the one', now knowing that even she could be a cheating, lying bitch.

I dont't really know what to do, I don't have any ambition to do anything, no job. Maybe I should start lifting? But I'm too much of a faggot to go outside at all with social phobia and several other different mental illnesses plagueing me.

Why the fuck are these women so shallow?

....Did you send those good morning texts to ugly girls?

Okay then.

Excellent read. Be glad you saw all of these at your age. Don't use what you learn here to harbor any resentment towards women. This is a step towards understanding reality for what it is. You are young. Focus on making yourself better everyday. Appreciate women for what they are, and for what they are good for, but never take anything personally.

I always described the day I swallowed the pill as the day I lost my innocence. I have to admit, it was bittersweet, but it is what it is, and it is something we all have to do sooner or later.

I was the exact same kid when i was at your age, and I find it hard to settle but just enjoy the good things. There is plenty of places in the world where women are still good.

By the way: help your friend. He will be thankful one day.

Better to learn how than in your 50's like I did. You'll get past the anger.

I’m in a similar situation to you, I’m 20 and had mad oneitis for this girl which led me to finding TRP and implementing the necessary changes in my life to improve myself daily (both mentally and physically). While I am still probably in the late anger stages I can wholeheartedly say that my life is 100x better since finding out about TRP and extracting knowledge from the information readily available to us that almost always leaves us with cold-heart truths. It’s difficult to unplug from the deluded society that we live in today but I think swallowing the pill makes you more equipped for life as a man in today’s society than being plugged in your whole life and even in preventing certain situations in the future that can be destructive to your wellbeing. Lift heavy, work hard and keep developing all aspects of your life. Thanks for the post OP.

As you increase your passions, such as powerlifting or learning martial arts, you will start to have less time for the drama that comes with interacting with the opposite sex. Eventually what other people do and think of you will be none of your concern. You want to have a girlfriend, get a girlfriend. you want to fuck tons of girls, go do it. Hell go do both if you truly please. Being a man is doing what makes you comfortable and not giving a fuck what anyone thinks about it.

lifting has become my safe place. It's the only thing in life that's real.

As it should be. That burn, the struggle to push out that last rep to only realize you have another set, that is the only real thing in life.

Can I go back?

There's no going back just as you should never look back, your not going that way.

Your 18, a kid and you are fully aware of reality. You won't spend your life, your 20's or even the present with BP mindset or tendencies. How I wish I had known all this when I was your age.

Your gonna do fine, Kid.

You don’t enhance your fragile heavy ego by denigrating others—betafag. Would you feel bullied or suicidal if called a super heavy porky chubby loser? No, I’m sure. Keep your ‘girl’ pursuits in line with what is realistically in your reach. Not doing so is addiction and control. It’s an indicator of deeply malformed psychological space. By age 30-40 range you’ll have had learned to think in a balanced manner through tough trial-n- error development.

I am kinda new to this subreddit, but I find some of the ideas interesting, from the science purpose atleast. Mind me asking , whats the connection between ignoring /treating woman like crap, yet getting more attention from her, when you would expect the opposite? Kinda curious, why does this happen?

This hit home hard dude

I'm almost 20 years older than you, and to be considered red pill 'end game' in a sense; I'm highly successful, unmarried, a minor celebrity and on a decidedly upwards trajectory in my career. Women throw themselves at me constantly.

Thing is, I don't think I'm even capable of love anymore. Red pill will give you knowledge and lessons on the real world, but you lose the magic at the same time. I'd class myself as almost a MGTOW, as women don't hold any interest to me beyond providing a canvas to spray my DNA all over when the mood strikes me.

It gets better. I had a One-itis who I was in physical pain for six months every day after I stopped contacting. Now I look back at her decisions and agree the old me was a clueless pussy and wouldn't want to be with him either. When you're "on top" so to speak of of the game because you put in the work and choose to see reality as it is eventually it comes into alignment and you feel like you deserve it, because most other people are just not able to do that.

It might be a radical shift on the train tracks of life, but see this shit clearly for what it is: "I've brought my powerlifting totals up by roughly 500lbs and I look a LOT better than I did once upon a time," vs. "Giving her my undivided attention. Texting her back SECONDS after she texts me back. Clinging on to every single piece of attention she gave me. Giving her my undivided love."

It's not girls fault that you were the way you were, or that they are attracted to a physically attractive man with other shit going on. Three four years down the road that will 'feel' as true to you as it sounds and you'll have peace.

Once the pill is swallowed hard there is no going back. Just be glad it happened to you at age 18. It may taste bitter at first, but it is better. Drop the kid mentality. You're a lifter who has internalized the red pill. You are a MAN. Now go on and make yourself into a successful man with an unshakable frame who possesses knowledge of the blue pill and red pill existences. The world will bend to your influence.

Back in 2013 I went to gym for a few months, got ripped off and changed my habits a litte bit. Decided to do freeletics routine later and i agree at that point with you, excercising really helps out and free your thoughts from merging a broken personality.

I know my friend. I know how much it hurts, and how difficult it is su overcome that feeling of anger and frustration when that shit hits you like a million bricks. Feerl grateful that it happened at such a young age.

In my case I was blind until I was 22 yo (I am 26). And it happened almost like in your case, I was in love, of a U, yet she was a cock-riding bitch with more than X number of guys under her belt already and I was a virgin fucker. I fucked her, i lost my virginity to her, and I still fuck her from time to time, but she eliminated the chances of feeling love for a women ever again.

I have come a long way, yet I am still improving, I have made mistakes and of course, I have lifted since I was your age and IT DEFINITELY HELPS. LIFT like your life depends on it. Go on, keep pusing, keep pulling and never back down.

I woke up at 29. Be glad that you did so young. Most guys will never.

The anger phase is not just one phase. It comes in waves as another user put it. You think you've heard it all and then this 22 year old girl next door tells you how she has gone through 20 tinder dicks in two months or whatever.

Make good use of your anger. You do not walk blindly through society anymore so it will be a part of you.

While a lot of what you said is true, don’t let those things make you bitter.

We shouldn’t harness resentment towards women, no matter how tempting it could be at times. We should love women.

I get the fact that these facts you’ve talked about are sobering, and can be quite depressing when you look out at the way most men and women treat their relationships (or lack thereof). However, a big part of what TRP is all about is in fact, loving women. It’s just the circumstances, and the actual way we love them that is so different.

Take it from me as a married guy (trust me, I know the M word isn’t that popular around here); I’ve been married for several happy years. I still lift every morning bright and early, pour myself into my career, my faith, my kids, my outer circle (friends, parents, younger brother), and you better believe this rooster runs his coop.

Keep doing what you’re doing. Hopefully one day you will find someone that you can see yourself committing to long term if you’re into that. If that’s the case, just know that there is a way to show women affection, love them, and most importantly lead them...without feeling like you’re breaking some RP rule.

Love her, make her a priority just like any other significant relationship, lead her fearlessly, FRAME FRAME FRAME FRAME FRAME ALL THE TIME, lift, and straight knock the bottom out of her so good she gets upset when YOU don’t want it enough, and you will have all the love and respect your heart desires.

Aye bro, I was in the exact same situation and discovered TRP at 18. I'm 21 now, own place, own car, a killer body, killer job, and pussy every weekend.

It'll only get better.

It's supposed to hurt. Use the pain and use the anger. Channel it all into the achievement of the goals you set before you. You're in a special position to have this knowledge at such a young age. While young, you're no longer a kid. Get to work and build your empire.

Got to agree with you're post dude im 18 as well and after you find all this information out it gives you an edge but it's also painful as 90% of the world probably has no clue wtf we are on about

You've just discovered there is no Santa Claus, and the magic is finally extinguished from your heart. Sadness will soon hit you as you come to the realization that all your ideals can't be realized, and that you have to constantly be on your toes when you're around women. You love them, but you don't love them, and your heart will always want to take the easy way out and slide back to your old BP ways.

Swallow the Black Pill. The Red Pill isn't enough.

Join the military. Serve, get tough, run through a few dozen women, get your college paid for (take classes while you are in also for free) and then get out and own your world. Being a trained killer is some decent social proof.

That worked for me. There are many other ways, but that one worked great for me. Congrats on being so enlightened at such a young age. Its a double-edged sword. DO NOT MARRY til you are at least 30+ and no woman under 30, if you must marry. Pre-Nup!!! You may not have shit when you get married but you don't want to have to give her half of the empire YOU built in spite of her when she finally hamsters herself into thinking she can do better than you.

Out of curiosity, how do you get girls to text you good morning? What’s the context here?

Also I really sympathize with you. I haven’t been cheated or anything but I have heard stories that made me disillusioned and cynical as well. I keep telling myself don’t fall for those innocents look but damn it’s hard to imagine that girl next door getting wild and swallowing cock. It’s almost like they have bi polar syndrome or something. I’m from Asia so witnessing girls like that in America confuses me all the time. Maybe that’s partly why Asian chicks get a lot of attention from white dudes, too. However an increasing number of them nowadays aren’t to be trusted either.

That being said, I do believe there are loyal women out there. Or you just have to be alpha enough to make your girl loyal to you.

Your friend holds innate wants, common among most, if not all men. Even learning about TRP, you will still want to fulfill these aspects of your life. By lifting and expoiting women for your own social/sexual benefit is great, but you may still be missing some emotional needs that you would (hope to) get with a unicorn. A great outlet is devotion to a hobby that you love, loyalty from a dog, and 'proper' socialising with other males. Remember that TRP allows you to no longer be dependant on women at all, using them for you benefit is secondary.

I'm in my 30's and regularly encounter people who have been through divorces and either unhappy or failed relationship yet we can relate. They expect that i'm where they are and I have to explain that I am not but I was warned in advance and that's why we have a similar understanding as him, while avoiding the horrible financial losses, among other drawbacks of being in a serious relationship before 30.

'We' are a minority in the world and have to accept what that means when marriage, children, being in debt towards those goals, and pursuing other traditional goals are viewed as the ultimate end. All this while we know damn well that we really want is to have fulfilling careers that support buying a good house, being financially independent, and finding what makes us truly happy a Yet, we evade expectations and have to find purpose an independent manner with no consensus on what that is. Good luck!

I couldn’t agree more. My experience has been very similar to yours

It is good that you are channeling your anger into lifting. One advice i will give you is to start meditating. Right now you are of the worldview that women are deceiving creatures and all men are inherently pure hearted. It is a simplistic worldview and it is okay to have a simplistic worldview.

But gradually you will begin to realise why you held that worldview. And as that realisation hits you will begin to mature. We all want the world to be the way that we have imagined it in our nice little bubbles. Paradoxically when you realise how little power you have over the machinations of this world you will actually begin to exert power little by little.

Up till now all the oneitis that plagued you happended without your explicit will. Without deep contemplation about why you wanted to chase that girl and how you hamstered her into an entity into your mind who although looks like her physically but in reality bears little resemblance to her true nature.

You will be very contemplative about where you decide to spend your energy and that will bring you actual satisfaction. Dont let some silly little girl deviate you from self actualization.

Damm dude i needed this , i was double texting the sweet lil thang from last night and now i havnt recieved a reply

Anger phase is what i m just going through.... Discovered the RP at 29..... But im chill i know like anything else it just takes time to digest the truth and then its a smooth sail. So many good things have come after the discovery. Yeah for sure will laugh after few Years reading this post.

Muscles and a good financial situation = all the girls you will ever want.

Have u smashed U yet, though?

Don't hate the player. And don't hate the game.

Become better at playing the game.

Good read that prompted some great responses. Every day is a fight. Build your habits, build your life. Be, do, have not do, have, be.

Lol swallowing the pill and having my first psychedelic trip was the most mind fucking thing I ever did in my life. I was just like you, mad and depressed as shit at 18

You’re only 18, I think everybody is just in that phase of fucking around and having fun. No one wants to settle down at this age.

At least you found it after a high school best-friending and not a brutal divorce, there’s always a silver lining

The reason for that is 2 effects.

1. Women want a strong man who can protect them, because they are physically weak. Girls like lovey dovey, too, but if you can only do lovey dovey they lack the protection aspect.
2. If you don't give them the time of the day that means you don't need her. People are hard wired to want things they can't have. It's a very strong effect. However, this only works if she likes you already.

If you were a woman with no physical strength, you would understand that and wanting things they can't have is valid for everyone, be it men or women.

So, as you can see, there's no point in being angry, because people are like that. You only didn't think it through. If you want to be angry at someone, be angry at yourself for not seeing this.

But this is also not helpful, because at 18, your perception of the world is very limited.

Hi, thanks for sharing this, it was interesting to get your side of things - something women don't often get to hear in such an honest way. I appreciate you talking about your life experience. Although some of the things you said are hateful towards my gender, I respect you and want to understand what led you to this point. I'm sorry on behalf of the person who made you feel this way, sadly some people never get apologies as people are usually too proud to admit when they've fucked something up (it takes a lot of courage to admit you are wrong about something - you have to feel pretty secure in yourself)

Now for a question:

Is sex with a female all it takes to make you feel so happy you are no longer afraid of anything anymore (further rejection, ostracism etc.)? Human beings need to live more enriching lives in order for their brains to be mentally healthy, so having sex alone won't fix that - there are lots of miserable men who have sex regularly. I hope you can take away at least a small part of what I'm saying and I wish you the best of luck and I hope you feel better :)