2097 on NiceGuys.
So this guy has obviously swallowed the blue pill hook, line and sinker. Not the worst crime, most of us have been there. But the way the comments rip him up just absolutely blows me away, it shouldn't, but it does.
My heart goes out to this guy, he's lived 41 years, doing all the "right" things, probably not because he expects sex, but because he genuinely believes it's the right thing to do. And where does it get him? Not only is he left sad, pathetic and a virgin at 41, but he gets absolutely shit on when he expresses his frustration.
Favorite comments:
41 years, Jesus Christ get him a prostitute or something.
Right, cause all the guy wants is sex. 41 and never even known what it feels like to have a woman touch him in that way. Jesus.
"I minored in Women's Studies" And evidently learned nothing.
lol
have you tried asking a woman out on a date and not being so desperate?
You mean women don't throw themselves at you because you wore a pussy hat and carried a sign? You have to actually make them feel some kind of way? Btw, I'm sure this guy has been rejected dozens of times when he finally managed to screw up the nerve to ask a girl out. He's 41 and a virgin, of course he's frickin desperate!
VasiliyZaitzev 5y ago
So, here's the thing: Mr. Male Feminist BetaFag 'wif no girlfriend would be the first MFer to sell RP man down river the very first chance he got - who do you think he thinks the "abusive sexists" he complains about are? If you took him aside and said, "Hey, 'bruv. There's a place you can go and learn about how to be the best version of you that you can be, and also about the skills you need to learn to do better with women." If you told him about TRP how would he react?
This way: "GET AWAY FROM ME YOUR MISOGYNIST BASTARD!!!"
Mr. "Nice Guy" ain't so nice. Women are not vending machines that you put 'nice guy' coins until pussy comes out of the slot (as it were). Be as much of a "feminist ally" as you want, but no woman is going to say to you "YAY! You finally got the 10th stamp on your 'Nice Guy' Card! Now I can finally give you all the sex you deserve!!!"
What he really wants is a different kind of card. But no way he's getting it going about shit the way he is. Feminism is a giant shit test. MoFo listened to what they said instead of watching what they did. We smash, he don’t, he mad.
So yeah, fuck this guy, up the ass, with a pineapple.
lorum_ipsum_dolor 5y ago
Touché. Adding this to my verbal inventory.
LotBuilder 5y ago
How would women react if men told their daughters how to be women?
Dress like this Look like that Cook Keep a nice home Be able to entertain A “real woman” does xyz that men like.
Women would go absolutely apeshit and try to take the kid away. Yet that is exactly what single mothers do. They try to raise boys to be what they think men should be and then when the boys act like that they get shit on. Soy boy Beta’s are like the vegan, gluten free food that women claim they like during the week when talking to their friends... but at 2am on a weekend they are gobbling down alpha dick and Double Cheeseburgers. On Monday morning they go back to saying they want the exact opposite of what they really want. Actions speak louder than words.
dr_warlock 5y ago
Your single mother fucked the same type of guys she taught you not to be. Your father was not a mistake.
EscapeTheGoat 5y ago
That's what happens when they have low sexual arousal. They claim they want betas.
MattyAnon Admin 5y ago
Most non-single mothers too.
youlovethisish 5y ago
I wonder if they taste the same... shower thoughts. no homo.
vinq_ 5y ago
You can taste me if you want , no homo.
Upvotesfromnowhere 5y ago
Not gay if balls are dry at the end. You can even bring a towel, just say no homo
ADLINKS 5y ago
Society nowadays reward the bad and punish the good. 41 years is probably more than half his lifetime. What a waste!
fortwaltonbleach 5y ago
i think it has less to do with bad or good, then punishing men for the sheer sake of being men. He's swallowed some huge lies. He's probably indoctrinated by third wave feminism so hard that he'd consider himself a rapist if he acted on the urges that he has repressed. When they do come out, since he can't handle them, it becomes a pity party.
rigbed 5y ago
Suggesting it hasn’t always. Nature may be altruistic but altruism isn’t “nice”. It’s two greedy beings teaming up to fill their greed together.
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I’m not sure if this paragraph is meant to have meaning or if these words were all written on the wall and you threw darts to determine the order.
ozenmacher 5y ago
Hate to say it, but this guy is probably lost forever. He is drowning in BP mania. Obviously did not have any apparent strong male figure in his life, and at 41 and this desperate, he is basically the equivalent of the 35 year old post-wall ham beast green-haired feminist who hates everything in life, especially men. They just aren't coming back. They are lost causes. This is now this mans identity, and thinking anything else is true besides the BP fantasy he was taught would be cognitive dissonance that would shatter his reality. He would not be able to process it without having a mental breakdown. So instead he will likely just double down...or scarily...eventually become an INCEL psycho.
scissor_me_timbers00 5y ago
I mostly agree with you but he probably has a some modicum of hope in some psychedelics to help him reset.
Frenetic_Zetetic 5y ago
As cynical as it sounds, I genuinely believe lost causes, like this, are a reality. It's like trying to learn to write with your other hand after 40+ years. It can be done, but the inertia required is usually too much, and such personalities wouldn't be where they are if they had such awareness in the first place. Sad but true.
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You don't win Mario by going left.
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[deleted] 5y ago
I can empathize with his situation but some people aren't capable of being introspective. Some people do the same thing over and over regardless of their actions yielding the same results. It's like when you try to drop some red pills on people and you just end up making yourself look like shit in their eyes and them reinforcing their beliefs. Help can only be given to those who want to help themselves. Also I don't believe any straight man taking a Women's Studies course is doing it other than a cheap attempt to get pussy.
DouglasPR 5y ago
true, I once tried to help a friend out of the mess he was making for himself and disclosed TRP to him. At first he coped, than he went straight to his old SJW's den asking for validation... poor soul. Today he hates me in a passive agressive way, is still imprisioned in a lousy marriage with an unstable woman and I got labeled sexist, machist, the lot. NEVER AGAIN
Bruchibre 5y ago
Wow, I've seen the post on Niceguys (not allowed to post the link here) and ended up taking his defense against some heartless feminist or whatever.
Yeah! I'm the real SJW
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Women say that men aren’t owed sex. Actually, we are. Or at least we used to be. The idea that if a man follows the law and engages in productive labor, he will then be rewarded with a wife and exclusive sexual access to her is the implicit agreement that all of civilization rests on.
[deleted] 5y ago
"Jumped to conclusions/am a therapist"
I'm a lot more worried about the harm that person is doing to people.
Bruchibre 5y ago
Well said. Probably a lot.
Maybe this kind of therapist who convinces you that you've been abused, raped, etc. But I guess therapists tell people what they pay you to say.
Mr-Ed209 5y ago
Women will never understand the nice guy debate because they're unaware of their nature. Which is a shame because if each gender understood it, it would save a lot of misery and frustration for both parties.
I recently tried arguing on the women's RP sub with one of their endorsed contributers that both genders would be better to understand how 'niceness' is a turn off to women because it invokes disgust and a show of weakness. You know rather than it being a calculated act of entitlement to their vagina.
I was accused of 'thought policing' and defending potential date rapists. She even got her husband to chime in and label me as weak (the kind of husband who posts alongside his wife on a woman's relationship strategy forum...). It was one of the most bizarre online exchanges I've had.
AKDaily 5y ago
I saw that back and forth. That is one strange subreddit... I thought RP-based forums were meant to aknowledge both genders innate nature? Just more hamster wheeling on their part to give an excuse to not like "nice guys".
AllahHatesFags 5y ago
I am honestly surprised this guy hasn't gone on a killing spree yet; I wonder how long until he gets a AR-15 with a bumpstock and sprays the next women's march with a hail of bullets.
Jesus I couldn't even imagine being a 40 year-old virgin because I know I wouldn't have made it that far even without a bunch of worthless feminazi cunts ridiculing me for the terrible crime of being a man and wanting to have a sexual relationship with a woman.
ImpressiveDig 5y ago
The blame has to be shared with the guy himself and the BP conditioning he's been given. Also how has he not realized that acting the same way with them doesn't yield different results? I do feel for him but I cannot empathize with the fact that he didn't modify his behaviour and interactions with women after he got turned down and rejected so much (he might have never even asked, I don't know). He should just get a prostitute and get it out of his system, it might give him some confidence.
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The real value of a prostitute is that using one will take sex off the pedestal.
RandomReeditUser 5y ago
The worst part is that this will lead to nothing more than his heart being filled with hatred. And who will he hate? Men. What a crock of shit. Poor bastard will be alone the rest of his life.
[deleted] 5y ago
Lol identifying as a male feminist is like an instant no to any girls.
Don't be this guy.
Austonmatthews345 5y ago
So much hate in the comments, as RPers we should be doing our part to inform this man of his lifetime of wrongdoing and point him in the right direction to make changes if he's willing to put the time in. He's past his peak maturity obviously, but he's not dead yet. The hate projection is so strong in the comments that I'm doubting most people have even read the Rational Male. Tomassi would be embarrassed to be honest.
Brodka17 5y ago
Rollo would tell you to stop being "captain save a bro", because it's not our job nor obligation to unplug people. Only help the ones that are here, as they came willingly to change. From the context given, this lamentable 41yo didn't try to change at all after hitting certain walls, he probably doubled down on his behavior. Still, I propose you this: try to convert him. You think we are being hateful, then have a go and tell us how it backfires when his cognitive dissonance kick in.
lorum_ipsum_dolor 5y ago
My attitude is to treat TRP similar to the way other fraternal organizations treat membership. You don't evangelize, you wait for others to come to you. They have to express an earnest desire to learn.
SpecialistParticular 5y ago
Dude needs to lift, maybe diet. I went through a period where I couldn't even get girls to look at me and it was because I was a fucking slob. Tighten up then pick up some dumb-shit 18-year-old at McDonald's and darken her soul. (Bonus points if you record it and upload to Spankbang later.)
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toasty_nark 5y ago
That's your assumption, but he doesn't say that. He seems to genuinely believe in the cause.
He's only wondering why he is, unlike average dgaf guys and even abusive shitheads, being ignored despite doing everything our society and women themselves promise to be attracted to, including the woman to whom he's speaking in this thread.
This is not surprising to red pillers, who ignore what women say they want (a feminist flautist who minored in women's studies and lobbied for a women's org), and instead become the kind of man that women actually reward with affection and sex (a guy who lives his own life for himself, dgaf if she likes him, and at least occasionally ignores her).
tempolaca 5y ago
Lol I do everything for sex.
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JJ3314 5y ago
(1) But of course you don’t know that he is doing it IN ORDER to get laid—that’s you projecting. And yes there are plenty of women that prefer assholes to genuinely nice men—precisely because they are assholes. Common examples abound in general society, but you even see this phenomenon at the extremes: eg. women writing to serial killers and death row inmates based on romantic infatuation. These women deserve to die alone. (2) No one is entitled to a sexual relationship, but nice men who lament about this reality have a much stronger moral stance than, say, morbidly obese women that insist on men finding them attractive, even though they look like shit.
Caspero444 5y ago
Morbidly obese women and unattractive women in general are doing fine. This is the double standard I was thinking about the other day after a woman I went on three dates with told me I was "too nice". She was not all that attractive, not all that interesting, dressed very plain. But she has an abundance of options as a white woman in the Tinder world. Being too nice is a disqualifier for men. But weighing 400 lbs is not disqualiflying at all especially if you are Caucasian
[deleted] 5y ago
I think you’re on the wrong sub, bud
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Jonmad17 5y ago
lol that's such BS. Niceness as a sexual strategy doesn't invalidate itself. If you donate money to a charity that money doesn't suddenly stop helping people because you donated it for the wrong reasons. The effects of kindness aren't retroactively undone because part of the reason you were kind was to get laid.
Painting nice men as manipulative is just a way women justify not being attracted to nice men.
otter6461a 5y ago
Yes. “Nice men are the real abusers” is all the rage right now.
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Jonmad17 5y ago
A kind action is a kind action regardless of whether or not the person doing it has a personality that can be described as "kind." Actions are what define people, not thoughts. The person in OP's screenshot is just a desperate 41 year old virgin wondering, as he's becoming middle age, why being virtuous didn't get him any attention from women.
GreatGoldSphinx 5y ago
The vast majority of men are just following social scripts that have been taught them by the women in their lives, ironically. This sub helps men get out of those scripts. Thank you for trolling.
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toasty_nark 5y ago
It's funny how liberals will become as anti-intellectual as conservatives and pretend that rational analysis is the devil when it suits them.
The thing is, mollieflower, even you don't believe what you wrote above. Just below, you wrote:
...implying that if men would just be decent then sex would be guaranteed. You do not actually disagree with the idea of sexual strategy. You just don't like the one here because you don't want it to be true.
crazystrawman 5y ago
Yes, but he doesn't know that. For all he knows, he's just doing the right thing, and confused when women are picking the abuser over the guy doing the right thing.
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JJ3314 5y ago
I missed the part where this guy was actually coercing women into having sex with him.
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rigbed 5y ago
Most people here aren’t nice any longer either.
mollieflower 5y ago
Yep lol. And thank fuck they will die alone, as it should be.
Celicni 5y ago
Better to die alone after fucking countless women, than die alone, never having fucked at all, which is probably what would happen to me if I hadn't found the red pill.
JJ3314 5y ago
The mantra around here amonst most men, as far as I can see, is “enjoy the decline.” You can hardly find a population of heterosexual men more disinterested in a lifelong relationship with a woman.
Oh, and for just about every man here that “dies alone,” there will be a woman suffering the same fate. One less protector and provider, one less shoulder to cry on, one less man to take advantage of in divorce court. Keep laughing!
mydikishomofobik 5y ago
Everybody dies alone, unless it is a plane crash or something.