As a proud Redpiller for years now I was literally shocked how much recent and especially upcoming video games are clearly becoming more and more feminist or at least very female oriented.
I was a dedicated gamer few years ago and I'm 30 by the way. I loved video games, still do but don't actually spend that much time playing anymore. I'm playing my own "Red" game now as a Redpill obviously. For years though I was seeking some kind of teaching and life inspiration in video games. It's been very helpful when I was a teen or even in my twenties. You can say anything you want about video games but I do still believe that it's a pure male field ! It's a deep male fantasy about being in control in some kind of extraordinary situations. It's about domination. We love to play war, to fight, to drive fast, to spell stuff, to be challenged, to win and achieve greatness ! It is a pure male drive ! It's no more than visualization.
There is more and more female gamers nowadays thanks to social media and fool beta orbiters who validate these chicks. It feels cheap though and somehow fake. It's always sounds like "male experience emulation".
Anyway, as some of you know it's E3 week. A lot of games have been announced and most of theme are as I said very female oriented to say the least. Take a look :
Battlefield V (EA): "Here comes a new challenger" and It's a woman soldier...in the battlefield... and in World war II fantasy
Control (Remedy) : You play a chick who is in charge obviously and "controls" everything
Last of us 2 (Sony) : You play a girl, lesbian, and kick some ass
Sea of solitude (EA) : quote "...On her search to change, she soon finds out that her biggest enemies are not the huge monsters that she meets on her way through the Sea of Solitude"
...and many others.
In some other games I also noticed that even if the hero is still a dude there is more and more female presence. In my opinion the video game industry is clearly promoting some feminism aspects like gender equality stuff and it seems like every developer out there feels like it has to be done whether they like it or not
What's your take on this guys ?
Edit : Guys this is not just about Redplillers who already swallow the pill. As far as I'm concerned I didn't play video games for years. I'm looking at entertainement more in a professional and educational way. The thing is there is a whole bunch of teens out there who do care about video games and will grow up with this kind of shity messed up ideology. As I said I enjoyed playing video games myself back then absolutely none of them put me out of a straight male mentality ! Video games are also culture and education so I think it's a great matter when it comes to what kind of information you give a child or a teen
goldaxis 5y ago
I don’t play video games much anymore either - mostly just little Nintendo games (like any true alpha male), so I’m not exposed to any of this feminization stuff. But I remember years ago with the Half-Life 2 episodes, how Alyx went from a somewhat charming sidekick to completely stealing your agency, that really pissed me off. One escort mission is fine, but the entire story shifts to revolve around her out of nowhere, and you can’t so much as unlock a door without her help. She decides where you go. She does all the talking for you. It’s nuts. Completely ruined the tone of the games, where up until that point, you were basically a one man army AND a theoretical physicist. I remember when it was fresh that the players were totally schmoozed by the detailed facial expressions (impressive at the time) and her being “hot”. They didn’t see any of the feminist stuff coming at all.
Mamba123321 5y ago
Well u/TitanTak I am in a same situation as you. Didn't play a video game since 2013 I think. Red Dead Redemption 2 is about some Alpha males from the Western world. The game will kick ass. I was also surprised about The Last Of Us 2 and whole that lesbian thing but it is what it is. Didn't plan to play that game anyway.
TitanTak 5y ago
It's insane man ! Red Dead 2 will be a very good story teller game I think. Most of Redpillers speak about wasting time playing video games but some of theme, very few though, really deserve a shot. A well written story driven game is no different than any good book or movie out there and sometimes it's even better because it's still a video game and you interact with stuff. That kind of games will give you satisfaction and more likely increase your confidence. When I finished Dark Souls back then I was so excited and beat every single of my PR's at the gym in that very same month lol
Mamba123321 5y ago
RDR 2 will teach some boys how to behave, thats my opinion at least. How to stand for yourself and be a freakin man. And yes some video games are better then movies and books.
yummyluckycharms 5y ago
Companies that get woke, go broke.
Just like when women out themselves as feminists (and thus to be avoided), I dont have any problems with companies that tell me not to give them any money
AmazingAstronaut 5y ago
What's even more infuriating on top of everything else that you mentioned which I agree is that, they lower the failure bar all the damn time. It's positive psychology all over again, and everyone has to be a winner. And we're going so far that we're calling a difficulty setting that's the equivalent of the traditional normal mode with fancy buzzwords like "Chaos", "Nightmare", "Inferno", "Diablo" when practically from an effort-to-progress perspective it's literally just normal difficulty from the old times.
And if you dare suggest that you want more engaging content as a challenge everyone will redirect you to 2 games: Dark Souls and Cuphead. That's it, you're pretty much screwed.
Alasborras 5y ago
You also missed the most important one, Assasins Creed is gonna be lead by a female soldier/mercenary in Ancient Greece.
TitanTak 5y ago
It's a bit confused with this one. We do see a dude in the trailer but the gameplay sequences show a woman soldier...in that era ?...seriously ?! There is that new Gears as well by the way
saibot83 5y ago
It's pure propaganda. Infiltrate and tear down everything male. Also ties into get em while they're young. All media does this currently.
bonusfruit 5y ago
For all the YouTube rallies and gamergate wars of 2014, in the end they lost. Anita sarkeesian won
polytopey 5y ago
Male and female solve problems differently, think differently. I'm okay with a female lead, but my problem is that the game force them to solve problems the way males would do it, blow shits up, kill everything on sight, wrestle men twice her size (a lot of women can kick my ass, sure, but the media portrayal is too much of a stretch), and various other silly shits.
This is not female empowerment, this is like me playing make-believe with my daughters, fake swords, fake dragons, fake lava, etc. so she wins and thinks she did it all by herself. That's not empowerment, that's setting up false expectations of "the world can be easily bent to my will without any resistance", setting her to fail in the real world.
ex_addict_bro 5y ago
Here's the gaming red pill for you:
the "screen" you're looking at is actually a lit, single line of pixels. It's not even the full image. Only the latency in your eyes and neurones makes it look like a full image.
You're basically starring at some blinking lights. Just like I do right now.
That blinking line of pixels, moving in a fraction of a second over the LED display is used to tell you a story, whether you play a game or watch a movie. Who's behind that story? I have no fucking idea. It's actually listening to some other guy ideas and swallowing them, unconsciously. Here when I read post by GLO or Whisper or Archwinger I know what to expect, I've read those guys, I know what's their background and their frame.
What's the frame of some fat, old Jew screenwriter, no matter, Battlefield, Fallout or some porn flick? I don't know, I have no idea. But here's another "gaming red pill" for you: imagine a fat, balding man with bitch tits, over 50. Harvey Weinstein or something. Imagine him whispering you a story, straight into your ear. Imagine yourself smiling, drooling, clapping, that's what you do when you play a game. Imagine yourself fapping to his story - that's what you do when you watch porn.
As for games and tech industry in general, I feel you bro. It obviously was a little bit too "male only" space, so you will get bitches, feminism and other blue pill implementations all over its place, together with politically correct "code of conducts" etc. I'm not sure what's going on on boards of some "software foundations" around, but believe me, they did elected some fat, beta Jews to handle stuff around and things suddenly became less funny and more politically correct. What's good about having childless man-children with low T on board, I don't know. The thing that freaks me out the most is how many men decided to "came out as a woman", take hormones, etc. I wonder, where's the advantage. How do feminine hormones help you with coding and getting the job done. Basing on some articles in the past by some so-called "transgender" dude who took oestrogen pills, I guess they don't.
So, wtf is going on actually? IDK. Something I can't even name is being irreversibly destroyed. Something new is installed instead.
magx01 5y ago
Resident Evil 2 remake looks FUCKING AMAZING.
TitanTak 5y ago
I loved it back then on PS1 and if I do get any free time I will definitely give this one a try too
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Snarky_Mark_jr 5y ago
"What the hell is happening to the videogame industry??"
If you gave any other answer than "Who gives a fuck??" you shouldn't be here - get out, you stink.
TitanTak 5y ago
Oh yeah don't give a fuck about anything and this fucking "blue planet" will turn red just like that. If things were right since childhood the TRP thread doesn't have to be that important or even exist. So please feel free to shut up
Snarky_Mark_jr 5y ago
Then go ahead and preach on a street corner instead of circlejerking in this sub, you fucking hipocrite. You're just as bad as those dumb cunts that are "fighting the famine" by " raising awareness" - utterly disgusting.
fum6 5y ago
Lol, this thread shouldnt be here. Either way, games are for people to fantasize about stuff they can do/have in the real world. Let that shit be as long as it makes money. Edit: can’t
banthrow 5y ago
No only they are feminizing everything (games, military, workplace, movies, etc.) Those are manly girls, absolutely no feminine qualities on them. Basically replacing men with women, but they actually act as men and shun all their feminine qualities. It's also a fight against girls.
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Liart13 5y ago
For a bigger part of my life I hated it when people told me "games are stupid and childish". Now games truly ARE stupid and childish, because it sells good. Just give it up, man, there's always a good game or two every five years, that should be enough.
tteabag2591 5y ago
Not all games fall into that category. Are most? Sure. But I think titles like Dota 2 are exceptions to this. They are free, can be played whenever you have free time, and let you blow off some competitive steam. If video games are played in moderation there isn't really a problem. But if people skip gym to play them, they have too much of a hold on someone.
Liart13 5y ago
Well yeah but games like dota, pubg, FIFA etc with short reward cycles are most likely to make you skip gym though
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Nobody ever really explained properly to us why they are stupid and childish, did they?
GlennBeckAmerica 5y ago
It adds no value to your life. I could sit up all night and play battlfield or learn new chords on my guitar. With my guitar, i can create something. Im about to sell my ps4. Interested? Ps4 pro with bf1 apocalypse/ resident evil (the newest one) and an unopene ed remastered The Last of us
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Haha, I'll pass. I already have a PS4 to sell to somebody else.
GlennBeckAmerica 5y ago
U think 300 is a good price? Thats the cheapest i seen them go and without any games.
[deleted] 5y ago
I don't really know to be honest.
HobbitForest 5y ago
The Jews work really hard. You have to almost admire how they leave no stone unturned in their quest to destroy Western civilization.
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TitanTak 5y ago
Yeah exactly that's my point dude. Even if most us don't play much anymore these games will be played by young teens too and grow up with that kind of beta bulshit mentality
FeelTheBernieSanderz 5y ago
Gaming is cancer. Find better things to do with your time and forget about it.
You're not missing anything. If you must play games, there are plenty of pre-SJW old classics to enjoy.
raggot_the_legendary 5y ago
The few female gamers I've met gave me the feeling they were gaming (very little, because women are way less patient and focused than men when it comes to pointless activities) only to make a statement. In a world without men, PS4s and XBoxes would just not exist.
nativestartup 5y ago
Bro you just mentioned 3 video games with female lead characters. I’m all about the RP lifestyle but there are about 400 video games that will come out in the mean time with male leads but so help me if 3/400 have a female it means feminists are takin over
TitanTak 5y ago
These 3 are major games and as I said there is others. It's actually more like a mouvement. It's the first time ever in video game industry that things go so far on that kind of ideology
_A_L_3_X_ 5y ago
the new doom looked pretty good. if you havent played the 2016 doom i really reccomend it, its pure badassery and slaughtering monsters.
[deleted] 5y ago
First the feminists came after the education system, but I did not care because I had already graduated.
Then they came after the corporations, but I did not care because corporations are evil and why would I defend them?
Then they came after the military, but I did not care because I never served.
Then they came after fraternities, but I did not care because I never pledged.
Then they came after movies and TV but I did not care because it seemed irrelevant.
Then they came after video games, but I did not care because I don’t play them.
Then they came after the thing I hold most dear, and I looked around for help against the tide of insanity, but there was no one left to help me.
exit_sandman 5y ago
Unfortunately this is pretty accurate.
dreenhotdog 5y ago
Are we going to talk about how Overwatch (ugh.... I know.... Overwatch... blegh) has only made a single male DLC character ever since the game came out, and the only time they released one, he was also black (it just feels like they justified the releasing of a male character as long as he fit some sort of "minority" demographic). The rest they've released, just females. Feminism is ruining the game industry. I have no reason to purchase Battlefield V since its getting as over made as the Call of Duty franchise and the last good Battlefield game was Battlefield 3. And though the previous Battlefield wasn't completely historically accurate, at least it was somewhat comparable. I'm so tired of gender/race politics I could scream.
PFCX 5y ago
Fuck it bro. Just boycott them and stick with Bethesda/Rockstar Triple A titles that are all masculine and blunt.
exit_sandman 5y ago
Rockstar, GTA in particular, is a very interesting case.
Everyone is an asshole, a hypocrite, a psychopath, a lowlife, a general second or third rate human being, and every civilian can be killed.
But guess what generates the controversy? That the female characters are ridiculous straw feminists (like Franklin's aunt) or sluts (like Michael's wife and daughter) and that you can kill prostitutes. But of course it's not about women being superior, how could you think that.
TheH1dd3nFear 5y ago
I'm glad that EA and Ubisoft are infested by the worst of the worst with these SJWs and feminists.
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its_meKnightSwolaire 5y ago
Let’s see if the industry learns from the mess of Kennedy’s Star Wars
StrikePrice 5y ago
It’s capitulation to the pussy game reviewers. Nothing more. Those chicks that they are trying to appeal to don’t buy games.
AllahHatesFags 5y ago
It's the same shit that is happening in Hollywood and everywhere else in the entertainment industry as feminists and SJW's are trying to push their bullshit ideology into everything. Hopefully they abandon this crap once it loses enough money. Just look at the last two Star Wars movies, they bombed and the people behind them immediately blamed online trolls and "toxic manbabies" for their own failures. In any competitive industry that will only get you so far because investors want returns on their investments and not pathetic excuses.
geo_gan 5y ago
Yes, a lot of the shit story lines in Last Jedi was SJW crap forced in by Kathleen Kennedy it seems. And she also ruined the Solo movie too I hear, sacking original directors at last minute because they were doing stuff she didn't agree with (probably not SJW enough for her)
exit_sandman 5y ago
Unfortunately, SW8 didn't exactly "bomb". Though if Disney has just a shred of rationality left they realize that while TLJ might have done okay at the box office, the Kathleen Kennedy/Rian Johson-idea of how Star Wars should be probably cost them several 100 millions in potential revenue.
geo_gan 5y ago
Solo did bomb though I hear... lots of empty or nearly empty screenings. Probably a direct result of peoples reaction to TLJ. A lot of long term fans stayed away in protest at what they did with that. And now JJ has to salvage something from the train-wreck for next one.
F_Dingo 5y ago
The video game industry was an easy target for SJWs to hit. It's full of nerdy beta type men who are easy prey for
communistsSJWs. These are guys who literally don't get any female attention so when some fat harpy starts giving them "attention" they eat it up.It's disgusting what is happening. Many good franchises like Battlefield are going right down the shitter because of SJWs. Quality games I used to have a ton of fun with my friends on.
geo_gan 5y ago
I don't know about that - I mean if they included a few butch female SJW type characters on opposing team I'd love to continue to unload the LMG/HMGs into them instead of other soldiers for fun/spite :-)
harbinger1945 5y ago
The only good game in this generation is god of war - especially thanks to that father-son relationship. Kratos just doesn't give a shit(he really never did anyway). And probably bloodborne but that's another story.
IMO games are waste of time..but sometimes you will find piece of art which is worth of your time. And like with everything moderation is key.
Morphs_ 5y ago
Female gaming is more of a thing now and they need to market towards it. Female gamers want female characters. I guess that point prevails when pitted against realism in some cases.
Personally I don't like female streamers. It feels fake, almost as if I can smell their need for attention and money, sitting there with their cleavage while all the BB nerds are handing over their money, it's pathetic.
geo_gan 5y ago
yeah I can see through those Twitch thots... only there to gain subscribers to their channel and the monthly income it provides... they couldn't give a shit about whatever game they are pretending to have an interest in. And then you hear all these deluded beta chumps on her "team" helping her out, giving her tips, consoling her when she dies again for the millionth time after a minute or two... they are fucking idiots and she is playing them like a fiddle...
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euparkeria 5y ago
You can put dozens of women in this games, woman will not play and buy, they dont love games, they just want to validate themselves.
rpsheepdog 5y ago
WWII with a female soldier?? HA
Also... the whole gamergate and female empowerment movement in gaming has been going on since 2014
Spets87 5y ago
The Russians had a lot of female soldiers in WW2.
Two_kids_in_a_coat 5y ago
Russia had plenty of female WW2 soldiers. Some were pretty badass.
Becoming-The-Mask 5y ago
It's like people forget women being allowed in military combat roles happened until recently. They wouldn't have coped with what our ancestors experienced on the battlefield. Imagine kids in future saying that women did fight on the front lines in WWII, but only because they saw it in this videogame and not from historical sources.
exit_sandman 5y ago
Considering the bullshit BBC tries to push as history, I doubt that there'd be much difference unless you actually go back to original sources or 20th century history.
CaptDeadlift 5y ago
As a child I learned quite a lot of history from strategy games and such. Kids in the future coming up with "did you know females were fighting on the front in ww2"?
ObliviouslyThrowaway 5y ago
She's supposed to be Norwegian resistance fighter. I mean there were few female fighters in resistance, the last article I read said lower double digits in France, but there were some.
What I have problem is her being combat effective with a fucking prosthetic hand. That's what breaks the immersion for me. I mean, at one point in trailer she literally bludgeons a guy with a stick. Using her prosthetic hand. Talk about suspense of disbelief.
derkoff 5y ago
You guys are doing some serious hamstering with this "video games aren't realistic because women are doing the unrealistic things characteristic of video games now" bullshit. They're fucking videogames. If it's making you this much of a whiny bitch, just turn it off and engage with the real world.
ObliviouslyThrowaway 5y ago
Then again, you're whining about "whiny bitch", "whining" about just video games.
What does that make you?
lorum_ipsum_dolor 5y ago
Although unusual, some women did serve in frontline combat, mostly on the Eastern front. Russia had numerous female snipers, some of whom were very effective. They also had female pilots, the most notable being the 588th Night Bomber Regiment known as the "Night Witches". They developed a technique of cutting their engines and silently gliding in to bomb German units who were taken completely unawares.
rpsheepdog 5y ago
Ahh I definitely forgot about that... I forgot those games started taking a multi-front approach
pame12 5y ago
Any idea how they could be more effective? From what I've learned, I can't really think of anything that would make them better. Or perhaps those stories were exaggerated?
Glitsh 5y ago
Lyudmila Pavlichenko was a badass for what its worth. Can't speak for why she was more effective, maybe it was time and place but she ended with 309 confirmed kills in WW2
lorum_ipsum_dolor 5y ago
Perhaps "celebrated" would have been a better choice of words.
lastdumra 5y ago
Every sex has outliers, plus females are generally worse in coordination and accuracy when under "stress" (quick decisions). If the task allows to take time, women are as accurate as men. See archery for example, one of the few Olympic sports where females can compete with men.
exit_sandman 5y ago
Also, the question isn't so much where they would be more effective than men, but where they would be most effective in general. And I dare to say that (for infantry) taking out enemy combattants with a long-range rifle is probably the task where your overall physical prowess probably matters least.
lastdumra 5y ago
Problem with women in infantry is not so much the firing, but everything else.
Before you get to the actual fighting, infantry usually have to move big distances carrying heavy load. Men are clearly superior to women there.
Fights can be really stressful and traumatic, but then again soldiers report that the "peaceful" moments of doing nothing between fights are even more nerve wrecking and stressful. Women handle stress and sacrifice worse than men.
You could go on. Every aspect where women excel over men is meaningless in war, and every aspect where men excel over women is very important in war. It is no wonder females tend to do really bad in combat.
It is as if evolution had "seen" that specializing each sex so it would excel at different tasks was the way to go. But since biology is misogynistic, you can not state these facts in mainstream now...
Metalgear222 5y ago
Both Hollywood and the gaming industry took on the increase in female empowerment as a means to raise income. It's a reaction to the feminization of the societies as a whole. It sells better because it aligns with majorities worldview.
True masculinity is the minority now.
ApexmanRP 5y ago
"It sells better because it aligns with majorities worldview."
In the short term yes, but what it does is alienates its core audience, who get pissed off and disengage - Stars Wars.
"True masculinity is the minority now."
Yeah, but I like it! Being in the top 20% has never been easier.
exit_sandman 5y ago
I think it's more because they have been battered into submission by the media. Cunts like Anita Sarkeesian are of no importance among gamers, but apparently the likes of her have some clout in the social media sphere. And while gamers - even well-known streamers - tend to stay among their own, these feminist youtubers are far more influential because they're better when it comes to networking.
Prison4SideofBeef 5y ago
It's actually much simpler than that. In the 50s, advertisers and marketers realized that women were responsible for 70% of all consumer spending in the entire world. That is why every industry began desperately targeting women.
universalabundance1 5y ago
Good. The truly masculine will have an even easier time getting pussy.
Kinbaku_enthusiast 5y ago
Which means it's easier to have a competitive advantage.
rpsheepdog 5y ago
I agree, I feel the push to make all masculinity as toxic is a very real problem.
vengefully_yours 5y ago
I enjoy being toxic, it gets me laid and lets me archive things though hard work and effort rather than being given what some cunt thinks I'm worth.
crimsonkiteknight 5y ago
That’s part of the problem though. Anything to do with the male identity ergo masculinity is toxic. Now we have males pushed to the limits, making them believe in nothing other than self destruction and masturbation. Being masculine isn’t toxic it’s what being a male is about.
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Metalgear222 5y ago
Can you elaborate on examples of this? I'm not doubting you, I just know business well. And public scrutiny almost always comes second to revenue.
pencilcasserole 5y ago
Have you looked at Bioware lately? They're drowning from opening the floodgates to the SJW plague. Turns out people who got the job on a quota rather than merit make for shitty programmers/artists/designers.
newcaprica1 5y ago
I can confirm this. Having my ex-bosses work in this company and see how women got product management roles for their gender and not experience.
No wonder Mass effect 3 and Andromeda failed big time.
exit_sandman 5y ago
In a way, Mass Effect had undergone a development comparable to Star Wars.
It started out awesome (Ep 4+5; ME 1+2), then the guy in charge thought his ideas were unbeatable and he pushed them through despite all adversity, ultimately resulting in an inferior product (Ep 1,2,3,6; ME 3), and then the SJWs took over and turned the whole thing into a virtue-signalling shitshow pandering to feminists and intentionally giving the original fanbase the finger (Ep 7+8, ME Andromeda).
archetypicalman 5y ago
Mofos ruined Mass Effect forever for me.
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archetypicalman 5y ago
Falcon Punch! Only renegade choice I made consistently in every game!
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Ciaccoo 5y ago
Doctor Who is now a woman. The Doctor was/is a huge role model to me. He's funny and confident and holds knowledge over anything else. And now he's a woman. Are they gonna feminize her, or keep the same characteristics and personality? That would either mean a person I can't look up to, or a woman who acts masculine, which also doesn't sound appealing to me.
Thanks BBC, for falling for the feminism trap and ruining my favorite show.
ZeroSixNiner 5y ago
I haven't been into gaming in a long time, other than the nerdy stuff like Kerbal Space Program. One thing I do notice is that given the chance, a lot of guys play female characters. The reason, which cracks me up due to the juvenile insecurity of it all is that if they have to stare at a butt in third person play, make it a female because looking at a male avatar's butt is like totally gay man.
geo_gan 5y ago
well, it is though.. and i would prefer to look at female yes
ZeroSixNiner 5y ago
LOL! You can't be serious. Sexualizing a video game character? What the fuck are you, 13? I bet if you quit looking at the ass of your video game character and pay more attention to what's going on around you, you might find your games more enjoyable.
juaracam 5y ago
This year I was so fazed by Death Stranding that I didn't care much about the others. I've seen some trailers though, and the new Assassin's creed is horseshit: you can choose the gender of your character which is supposed to be a Spartan warrior; where in hell have there been Spartan female warriors? What the fuck. I understand it's a marketing choice, but hell the game was already shit, now even worse.
af_007 5y ago
In the movies industry is getting worst!
red_matrix 5y ago
It's all about the almighty dollar and guess what - grrrrl power is whats all the hype today. Video games are a big industry and they want to appeal to women to suck them in. If you aren't happy - don't play. Don't waste time with video games - lift, read, rebuild that engine and sail the seas. Come back to reality. You're male dominated fantasy world of video games are selling out to the feminist imperative - move on, vote with your dollars.
Prison4SideofBeef 5y ago
Video games are a giant waste of time. The video game gossip industry is no different from the celebrity gossip industry.
TitanTak 5y ago
Yeah sure but as I respond some guys here young male teens do care about video games and basically grow up with that kind of bulshit beta mentality.
Aufbruch 5y ago
The average age of most gamers is 35.
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FlamingAmmosexual 5y ago
I liked Dick Masterson's rant on Dead or Alive getting rid of the titty physics.
SgtBrutalisk 5y ago
Dick is an outrage leech, he has no clue about the topic other than it has something to do with nudity and boobs.
RedPilledRoaster 5y ago
OP, quit bitching about products meant for preteen girls and hit the gym.
Theguygotgame777 5y ago
Remember when Wolfenstein was about an alpha male promoting an American power fantasy through blasting Nazis to pieces? Instead of hating on white people in general, as well as the south and giving Blazcowicz a bunch of daddy issues and angst?
Pepperidge Farm remembers.
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Why the fuck are you playing video games? You're a grown ass man
TitanTak 5y ago
Dude I'm not playing anymore but still take a look at what's happening. It's not about Redplillers actually but more about young teens who grow up with this kind of shit mentality
InscrutablePUA 5y ago
Who cares it's a fucking videogame. Beta will lap that shit up
TitanTak 5y ago
Young teens do care dude and grow up with that kind of beta feminist equality bulshit mentality
daily_rp 5y ago
It's just about money. They're testing to see if they can take advantage of the social climate to boost game sales.
TheCondor96 5y ago
I would like to point out that this was inevitable. Women as consumers are a lot less frugal with there money. There's a reason women's deoderent is more expensive and less effective. As long as there is a demand from women for video games, there will be more and more female characters. Since more and more women are finding themselves unable to find partners due to body acceptance or feminism or just an inability to find a suitable partner there will be more and more women using video games for escapism. I don't see any problem with companies profiting off of women playing video games or advertising to them.
exit_sandman 5y ago
That's what they want to think, but as Star Wars has shown, the geeks who watched the movies multiple times and bought the merchandise on top of that usually weren't girls.
TheCondor96 5y ago
Idk man there are a few guys who will do that, but I'd consider them a minority. Ask a girl sometime how much it costs to get their hair cut and died regularly, because every girl spends an excessive amount of money on clothes and accessories. The stereotype of women loving to go shopping didn't pop up out of thin air.
geo_gan 5y ago
yeah, just go to your main high street shopping street or center any time of the week and see the numbers of females (young teens all the way up to 40+ and old women) with bags full of various clothes and other appearance related shit compared to numbers of males... females are almighty consumers of this sort of stuff... the fact that 99% of shops in malls are mostly "womens" shops as opposed to a "mens" shop (hifi, music, tech etc related) tells you all you need to know.
Aufbruch 5y ago
Why would they keep going to a salon that murdered them?
TheCondor96 5y ago
I would assume they don't think they're getting ripped off or they think it's worth the cost.
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almostshredded 5y ago
Just stick to fortnite bro, female characters have gigantic asses
FUCK_SNITCHES 5y ago
I guess the same group who usually pushes this shit have taken hold in gaming.
DadOnDabs 5y ago
Who gives a fuck it's a videogame it's not supposed to be realistic. They have a bottom line and by including female characters they think they will get more females to play games.
1) battlefield 5 - it's not historical but who gives a fuck it's a game
2) the last of us - follows the story line anyway but again who gives a fuck it's pixels on a screen
3) the other 2 I haven't heard of - it's pixels on a screen who gives a fuck
Couchfishing 5y ago
What a lazy and uncompelling argument.
Who give's a fuck?
42% of Americans play video games regularly according to a 2015 report.
I'm sure many people give many fucks.
ssr401 5y ago
Well fuck those lazy fuckers for giving a fuck. Excuse me now, I have to get to the gym.
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raidlink24 5y ago
I think it's ok when developers themselves want diversity, as long as it's their will and not political reasons. Expecially in games with original story, even if taken from history.
What really bothers me is when people start harrassing devs when an original story game is showed and the main character is a white male only. I mean, there were riots about Geralt of Rivia (from The Witcher 3 which is also a spin off from a series of fantasy books) was a white male who only dates women, it was a well written character since the books, and it was criticized for being white and not dating other men too. Also happened with the last Legend of Zelda game, people where shocked when they saw the main character was again a white male and had to save a princess
ssr401 5y ago
It's hilarious how some of you guys whine about female entitlement, and then turn around and complain when entertainment companies don't give you exactly what you want. Do you see the irony?
There's nothing wrong with playing video games once in a while. But anyone who takes it seriously and labels himself as a "gamer" is frankly just pathetic. You're not learning anything. You're just killing time. And if you're actually angry about a game, well that just means your life priorities are fucked.
RPAlternate42 5y ago
It's a continuation of taking movies that have been done already, and supplanting the male character with women i.e. "Ghostbusters" (2016) and "Ocean's 8." Instead of writing new material with female leads, they rehash already done and successful stuff without male leads.
On the surface it seems great to the superficial PC crowd who only care about equality of outcome, but the relaity is that it is the exact opposite of what feminism, #metoo, #timesup, etc. are supposed to be about.
If they cared about any of it they would, as I stated, write new, original material with female roles. Instead they do the bare minimum, force female roles into already done and existing male roles for no other reason than to sell movies, twice, and virtue signal at the same time; everyone jack and jills each other off and the women being "empowered" are actually being exploited.
In the case of video games, especially with the WWII example, they took an established role (male, US soldier in 1941 - 1945) and instead putting in a woman. Women were involved in WWII, but not as soldiers; no women in the Island-hopping campaign, no women during the Normandy landings, no women being air dropped in France. Women were relegated to non-combat, no field roles. Otherwise, they were part of the French resistance. Sure, they could say, this is an alternate timeline/universe where women fought in WWII... except it's bullshit because it's only one woman, and it's in a game using the backdrop of a war that's been done a thousand times over... so instead of writing new, interesting material, they just plopped a woman into already existing and overly-copied material.
I guarantee you that game was made with a man in mind and some "diversity" contractor told the project manager and everyone above the project manager that recent trends indicate a female lead would do well here and every coder, tester, and manager facepalmed.
So they put a woman in.
It's not feminism, it's femploitation.
More importantly... who the fuck cares? This is a sexual strategy sub...
exit_sandman 5y ago
This. Alien did fairly well with Ripley, or Terminator with Sarah Connor. Two original franchises with a female protagonist before it became cool.
These days, it seems more like ideologically-induced dogmatism: "what, a popular franchise where women play second fiddle? how dare you! we'll take it over, transform it into some gynocentric crap and show you that female leads can make just as much money as male ones!"
Aufbruch 5y ago
I think it's just that female protagonists are easier to portray as vulnerable and weak, particularly in the horror genre. Thus, it's a bigger and more triumphant emotional payoff when they defeat the Alien/Terminator/Jason Vorheese.
It's laziness, not a conspiracy.
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yeah this whole post is irrelevant dogshit
[deleted] 5y ago
Dude just give up on video games, this past E3 was more forced diversity at the expense of story telling.
Fuck it, I'm out, its SNES and Sega rims for me when I'm in the mood to fight a baddie or 2.
whuttupfoo 5y ago
They don’t care about feminism. They just care about money. Catering your product to feminism = marketing. It’s that simple folks.
MattyAnon Admin 5y ago
There are some genuine female players..... but it isn't a big demographic in serious games (higher in casual gaming).
It's a great big shit test fail. "There aren't enough women soldiers!". Then they'll complain when too many women die in video games. We know how it goes.
Pandering to twitter rather than their markets.
HiredMind 5y ago
Same with movies 20 years ago. In a few years, the game companies realize it's a waste of money (because most women don't play those kinds of games), and they'll quietly change back.
lorum_ipsum_dolor 5y ago
I agree. The free market tends to sort these types of social engineering follies out pretty quickly.
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Did I miss something? Have movies become less feminized in the last twenty years?
11-Eleven-11 5y ago
We should be reaching a peak and then things will balance out. Hopefully...
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There’s no evidence for that.
NormalAndy 5y ago
Men lead and women follow. They get comfortable with their new environment and commence the shit testing once again- just another one for you hit out of the park.
WarViper1337 5y ago
Sadly it was only a matter of time. Most major game developers are now owned by massive corporate empires that are filled with diversity hires ready to virtue signal how they are on board with feminism. The bioware montreal studio (before it got shut down after the complete failure of mass effect andromeda) had a couple of extremely racist writers/studio leads. Someone made a montage of their twitter rantings which were straight up racist remarks against white people and how bad they all are.
This years E3 was filled with quite bit of female empowerment for sure. The only game I saw that really did a female character properly was probably Gears of War 5. She looked feminine, wore appropriate armor for what she does, had female emotions, and wasn't trying to be a man. Tomb Raider is also pretty good but it does feature a 120 pound woman effortlessly beating up 200 pound men.
unpluggedoasis 5y ago
Only solution is to vote with your wallet. Thats it. They hate us but love our $$$
The_Chiselnator 5y ago
Video games were designed to sap your life energy and convince you that "achievements" on screen are equal to achievements in real life. They aren't. In fact they are nonsense.
Playing video games is as useless as watching tv sports and jerking off. You achieve nothing, you gain nothing, you improve nothing and you build nothing. That is how you find 400 pound neckbeards playing video games all day on their semen encrusted keyboards in their mums' basements thinking they are warriors because they are playing the Avatar of God of War or whatever.
You know why video games have now become feminine? Because anyone even a little girl can play them. That is how low the barrier to entry is. Don't bitch about it. Just understand that this thing is so easy to do that even an 11 year old girl can do it.
Secondly, it is about money. Girls have been taught that entering traditionally masculine space is being successful so they are getting sold shit and buying it.
You know which group has remained male? The game developers, their CEOs and their shareholders. Because that is fucking hard work
RealisticKiwi 5y ago
That you learn nothing from video games is not true.
I have learned English initially mostly by playing WoW. Without WoW I did not have much motivation to learn English. Now 14 years later I am working in a transnational company and earning money because I am good at English. I Also read a lot of books (non fiction) in English which were not translated to my native language
vengefully_yours 5y ago
Video games are wasting time, and entertainment. I like using some of them to unwind, get my brain to stop swirling like a hurricane on Jupiter, and it's something to do in the winter when I'm limited in outdoor activities. If the weather is decent and it's during time I can be productive, they don't get any attention. They're great time wasters on deployments when the gym time is done and there's nothing else to do for hours. Also, games can help with PTSD, style of them helped with my efforts on flooding.
Using them this way is more beneficial, but it can impinge on real world shit if you spend too much time on them. That is what these manginas do, waste their lives for days on that shit getting the reward pellet for meaningless "achievement" instead of building in the real world.
Funky thing I did with fallout, I built my house in game so I could figure out floor plan and structural ideas. Having it 3d so I can walk around, then move things at will helps with the visualization of what I want to build this summer.
pencilcasserole 5y ago
I'd add that I think of games as being better than TV or jerking it, cause they actually stimulate your brain instead of being a passive zombie activity. More akin to drawing or an intense puzzle. Best cognitive training there is IMO.
If you're playing a high efficiency/logic focused game like Factorio or Civilization, it can sharpen the steel of your logistic skills.
newcaprica1 5y ago
I only stick to strategy games like CIV, CK2, EU4 and recently Stellaris.
These games are logic, geo politics, economics and game theory 101.
it_takes_the_redpill 5y ago
You seem to have found a couple legitimate uses for them that I don't object to, aside from occasional boredom. I wait them because I choose TV (mostly comedy/documentary)/making shit with my hands when I'm bored. (Knitting. It's highly repetitive almost meditative and results in new clothes I pay very little for and can give as gifts/wear. Used to be done mostly by men, especially sailors. Not that I clearly feel the need to defend it or anything.)
I cringed so hard when I read that he is "taking life lesson from them" or something, as if there's some deep meaning to them.
cpk8080 5y ago
Exactly, Video games are a complete waste of time and are seen as extremely unattractive by the opposite sex. When was the last time you heard a woman say "You got to level 15?? omg i'm so wet, please take me now!"
Steps for OP:
1.) box up your gaming system 2.) drop it off at your local GameStop 3.) don't look back.
amedeo_modigliani 5y ago
So that is your life now? Only doing things that make women wet?
cpk8080 5y ago
Oh Jesus, I can tell by your defensive, shortsighted comment that you're a gamer so before I respond, let me copy and paste the best advice you SHOULD take within the next week.
1.) box up your gaming system 2.) drop it off at your local GameStop 3.) don't look back.
I've never been a gamer, but I have gotten in bad habits where i watch too much tv or surf social media way too much. Once I unplugged myself (different definition than whats used on here) I slept better, accomplished way more and felt happier. I deleted fb, cancelled cable AND internet (this was hard but I work in IT and get enough internet at work) So I started to fill my time with ,playing the piano, reading, backpacking through the Rocky Mountains traveling more and volunteering at a local refugee program helping Burmese who have been displaced.
Sure by making these decisions to actually apply myself and actually learn some skills I got more pussy ( I wouldn't say much, average 7 high quality girls a year) but I am an all around happier person even without women because technology can really mess with your dopamine reuptake and sleep. amedeo_modigliani, turn off your screen, you'll thank me 6 months from now.
CannabisCumshot69 5y ago
This is true of many things that nobody has a problem with - in moderation. Books? TV? Movies? Literally every form of entertainment has the capacity to help you relax, or present new ideas to you, but they're also "wastes of time" because you don't really accomplish much through them. Video games are just easier to blame because they're commonly designed these days to get people to play them as much as possible by making you feel accomplished by doing so (grinding achievements in World of Warcraft) or addicting to play for 12 hours straight (Fortnite, League of Legends, most competitive games).
ButteredPastry 5y ago
Moderation is key. Even the gym can be bad for you in more than one way if you do it too much, from injuries, to women thinking you're just another uninteresting gymbro if it's all you ever talk about and post about on social media. The RP community is split on videogames because the older RedPillers obviously see "those damn nintendoos" as a waste of time, and the younger ones hate how badly it consumed their lives in their BP days.
The chapter ["On Mystery"] (https://bookofpook.neocities.org/#ch-49) from The Book of Pook can better illustrate the point I'm trying to make.
JJ3314 5y ago
I agree with the “moderation” approach in theory, but am aware that for many people going cold turkey may be better. While I think men would be better served by extra-curricular activities that develop their physique, talents, and intellect, it’s the rare person who is so iron clad in their discipline that they literally have every waking minute accounted for with something that develops them in some way—professionally or personally, or is a necessity (eating, sleeping, etc). Even accomplished people need some time to veg., but the time sink phenomenon is real.
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Yeah they go on a jogg in forest, mountains and just unplug, thinking about nothing (just observing the nature). It relaxes you more and come back more fullfilled
geo_gan 5y ago
"Even accomplished people need some time to veg." - yep... did I not read somewhere that Elon Musk spends a lot of his time playing all sorts of games? Now if ever there was a person who could spend that time on other more productive, profitable tasks, but he doesn't, so why not - because he enjoys it, and needs brain downtime, just like everyone else.
CannabisCumshot69 5y ago
Totally agree. It's like alcohol - unwinding with a glass of whiskey can be totally fine, but if you get drunk constantly then you're causing yourself lots of problems and probably covering up for other issues in your life.
Celicni 5y ago
As someone that played a shitload of games before, this has been happening since like 2012-2014 or something. And not just with women, but trans, gays and blacks too. Take Detroit: Become human (another game) for example. Guess who's the leader of the androids (or at least gives out orders to one of the main characters)? Fat black woman.
Or Dragon Age Inquisition. Your only "romance" options as a straight dude are either a butch "strong woman", or an Indian chick. Meanwhile there's 2x the gay romances, and they're much better done.
TheH1dd3nFear 5y ago
DA Inquisition is the worst gameplay and rpg wise in my opinion as well.
exit_sandman 5y ago
Uh, no. Actually, become human is (regarding diversity and gender quotas and what not) overall a relatively "traditional" game.
Spoilers:
The two main leads are androids who are presented as white males - one of them is the leader of the android rebellion, the other is an android detective who is his main adversary and required to switch sides if you want to get the golden ending. The chick is just an ascended extra from a screen test and she's more the "smallfolk" android - she just wants to get out of the entire mess with her adopted daughter and flee to Canada. Occasionally she takes part in a fight, but most of the stuff she does is trying to dodge brawls and avoid people who would mop the floor with her.
The secondary characters? Well, the leader of the rebellion has three synthetic sidekicks who are a white dude, a white chick and a black dude. If the leader dies prematurely, the white chick takes over and fails miserably.
The cop android has Clancy Brown as a sidekick.
The chick acquires a huge black android as her sidekick, and the guy is basically an extra life for her - you need a supersmooth run to get him out alive because otherwise he'll sacrifice himself for you. The chubby black chick you were refering to is just a human sympathizer who has established an underground railroad of sorts for androids who want to flee the country.
So all in all certainly more PC than the games and movies of old, it's a far cry from the "we need to fill all important roles with women or token minorities"-virtue signalling.
Celicni 5y ago
But one of the "two lead male androids", the one with the rebellion, is black.
exit_sandman 5y ago
About as black as Shaun King.
Celicni 5y ago
Compare.
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She's basically a Spaniard, but alright. Nevertheless, she is the only correct option.
BobLordOfTheCows 5y ago
Nope, 100% Italian. Also dresses like a man.
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Josephine wears a skirt...
BobLordOfTheCows 5y ago
Concept art, that's cute. Let's look at the in-game model. Nice, boxy frame. No skin shown. So brave and independent!
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How does lack of skin showing = dressing like a man?
Ugh, I forgot how ugly the Dragon Age characters looked...
Funny enough, DA:I was the game that made me realize I was wasting my life.
BobLordOfTheCows 5y ago
Because it's more appealing for men to see a half-naked woman.
Yeah, probably because all the upgrades you make to the castle turned out to be pointless, much like video games.
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But that doesn't mean that they're dressing like a man if they don't show skin.
Rikvidr 5y ago
If you read KotakuInAction, the past few weeks it's seemed like GamerGate 2.0 is starting up.
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PS2Errol 5y ago
Except they aren't promoting femininity. They are promoting women who are apeing men.
banthrow 5y ago
Exactly, you won't find a caring girl that won with empaty, or a feminine spy that fuck their way to the secret. They are basically men with long hair and a pussy. They even fight grown men!
>Imagine selling Duke Nukem 3D to a bunch of teenage girls, by the way ...
They wouldn't finish even the first level, masturbating constantly to the infinite chadness of Duke.
TheH1dd3nFear 5y ago
I don't fucking care anymore, I am happily playing the Warhammer Dawn of War series, rather than forced "muh diversity" lesbian garbage from the Last of Us.
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TitanTak 5y ago
Amazing series dude !! DOW 2 is badass
TheH1dd3nFear 5y ago
Clocked winter assault love it.
antariusz 5y ago
Just a byproduct of many video game developers living in and around Silicon Valley, Austin, and Montreal.
Just recognize that those games are not meant for you, it’s ok. Just like EA wasn’t marketing Battlefront 2 to you, these other games are not meant for you also. It’s fine. Variety is good.
So enjoy your dark souls remastered and don’t worry about it, there is no feminism when the only game requirement is “git gud”
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Lex_Ambr 5y ago
It's kinda insulting since I don't generally care about their gender, its about how they are written in the game. Companies are going, "Here's a woman. Now buy the game" and most feminists are just praising it and not catching on that, maybe? its just a selling point. Before I spend my hard earned money on anything, I ask; Is the game good? Story, Characters, Mechanics, Gameplay, are they all good? Is it NOT a broken terrible game? But most feminists will just ignore it and bite the "its has a woman" hook even if its a terrible game!
I remember The Boss (MGS3), Jill Vallentine( RE1&3), Claire Redfield (RE2,CV), Faith (Mirrors edge), Ada Wong (RE2,4,6,Damnation), Ellie (Last of Us), Lara Croft and my most recent, Clemintine from the Walking Dead. There are many more. I don't remember these characters because of their gender or "woman can do anything". They were memorable and amazing characters. Their story, goals, struggles and how you believed they were actual people is what makes them interesting.
Feminists will go, "But there is MORE MALE CHARACTERS THAN WOMAN". True. But that doesn't make them better or more interesting than their counterparts. I could argue that woman characters are BETTER WRITTEN than the males. Marcus Fenix from Gears of War? Throughout the game he's just this angry sour character from start to finished. Start of the game, "Im angry", Game/War ended, "Im still angry". No character development!
I think customers need to extra careful because they are STILL companies that have to make money. They could lie and say, "Here is X because we support that group" but could actually mean, "Here is X because its a selling point and we want money."
Futon_Rasenshuriken 5y ago
What makes The Last of Us 2 sillier is that Ellie is somehow supposed to go fist to fist with men twice her size.
At least Joel has the build to realistically fight them.
TheBlackAlistar 5y ago
You'll spend half the game crying rape and getting the enemy characters arrested.
Nick-Nein 5y ago
To be fair, they're probably gonna be more shooting than anything though so she has the great equalizer on her side. Plus if you played the last one, it makes a lot of sense to pick up with Ellie as the main character.
You do make a good point though, realistically she would get her ass handed to her if she tried going head-to-head with a guy in a fist fight.
FeelTheBernieSanderz 5y ago
And she's a lesbian in a post-apocalyptic world where humanity's numbers are dwindling. Being an independent female fighting monsters is more important than child-rearing even thought stronger men are more than willing to defend & sacrifice for you...
juppypuppy 5y ago
I don't think she chose to fight raiders and monsters to empower women. I think the raiders probably tried to catch and deliver her to the lab to creat serum.
banthrow 5y ago
Realistically a women in a post-apocalyptic world would die quickly and the game wouldn't be much fun.
magx01 5y ago
Hey, Steven Crowder: It's a video game.
SeyiDALegend 5y ago
I love video games especially a story-driven RPG. So I have no problem with lesbian scene. The Last of Us was incredible and this one looks even better. Ellie looks more kick-ass than any other female protagonist on the market right now so look past it.
Also recently I played Uncharted Lost Legacy starring Chloe and Nadine. Uncharted hate Nadine because she overpowered 2 full grown men in a fight scene but this didn't stop me enjoying Lost Legacy because 1. I'm not that emotionally invested in Nathan 2. Chloe is a babe, she's sexy, witty and with the right level of sass. Nadine was also a great companion, she grew up a tomboy following in her fathers footsteps, I get it. Cool.
Feminism and diversity will keep getting pushed (which is okay within reason) and we should keep a weary eye but the quality of games are still getting better. God of War, The Last of Us, Spiderman, Red Dead Redemption, Death Stranding, Cyberpunk 2077 there's enough room for girl protagonists and macho men protagonists. But as a black guy, I do find it ironic that they are tackling this diversity angle by including more white females when black protagonists have been even more super rare in the history of video games.
Don't over think it as long as you're having fun.
Cthula-Hoops 5y ago
Yeah, videogames sort of suck now for a lot of reasons. I don't have a problem with female characters its just a lot of them are very poorly written or do things that are outright unbelievable.
If you're familiar with Anita Sarkeesians "Tropes against women in video games" or whatever, you might remember the "Man with boobs trope" Where Anita summarizes that female characters are often written with masculine character traits and she believes that to be a problem and I actually agree with her but for different reasons. I think its just outright cringy to have Charlize Theron beating up two secret agents with a high-heel shoe or have an overpowered redhead babe fighting in WWII.
Female characters can be done right in video games, writers are just lazy.
One good female character is Ellie from the Last Of Us. The combat and the way she plays really gives you the impression that you're a little girl and can't go around bricking everyone in the face like Joel can. It doesn't take away from the experience at all since guns are such a great equalizer and Ellie has a rouge-ish personality that changes drastically as the story goes on. (Ellies personality change through her experiences in the story is in my opinion one of the best character developments in video game history.)
Anyway I've sort of shyed away from video games too because quality in gameplay and writing has taken a nosedive in the last few years with a few exceptions. Witcher 3 was amazing. Some well written (and modeled ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) female characters in that too.
You can write a powerful, feminine and compassionate woman its just harder than making a character based entirely off the fact that they are "not like other goils"
DayGameChirality 5y ago
Those game's characters were amazing. Women as well. All of them.
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MrSeader 5y ago
Thank you! I'm not really RP but I come here because occasionally you guys do have a point (at least more often than those black pill incels). I love what they did with Ellie in TLOU, outstanding female character because she was strong and realistic! What gamer (male or female) would not love more characters like her? With BFV it's different. The BF series was never realistic, it's just a fun shooter. Of course: a female amputee in a fighting role is not realistic but hip firing LMGs and pretty muchbeing a male super soldier is not realistic either. Haters: If you want "realistic" play Red Orchestra or Verdun.
Cthula-Hoops 5y ago
It was never intended to be realistic gamplay but on a surface level it should still appear to be a WW2 game. You could put female soldiers with high-tech prosthetics in a modern/future game and nobody would be complaining.
The same people complaining about this are the same people who went "WTF" on the amount of fully auto SMGs in BF1.
Edit:
BF1 should have been a WW2 game. Would warrant more automatic guns and ethnic minorities.
BFV should have been future. Where women in combat roles and techy prosthetics are less jarring.
Edit 2: It would be like seeing an AT-AT in Skyrim. Sure its a creative work of fiction, but even in that context its just stupid.
I also dont see the point in the inclusion. Just because Im a bisexual white guy doesn't mean I want to see GIs buttfucking behind enemy lines in a Vietnam game, thats just dumb. lol
Zanford 5y ago
TLoU2 is going to shit on that though and turn Ellie into Rambo
Asiatic_Static 5y ago
Did you watch the demo? She didn't exactly rampage through those enemies. Granted it was probably heavily scripted, but she gets hit, tossed around, and such.
Cthula-Hoops 5y ago
I mean if shes an adult I wouldn't have much of an issue with it.
In the first one its heavily implied that Ellie is a lesbian or is at least attracted to her Firefly friend so I don't see why people are getting uppity about it now. Its fine because thats only one small aspect of her character.
I am worried that number 2 will just be a lesbian love story. With how bad writing has been lately I worry her writers will get lazy and one dimensional.
Zanford 5y ago
I wouldn't care either way a game/movie that has a lesbian love story as a major plot point.....however I consider it a major minus in this case simply b/c I sense that they will politicize it and beat you over the head with patronizing themes.
How much you wanna bet the game will be another instance fo the 'diverse good guys, white male bad guys' trope (see also: Disney Star Wars) and the bad guys will be 'redneck militia' types who will yell some meanie-words at Ellie and her lover b/c they are women / lesbian / Jewish (the other chick will be overtly Jewish). The dev ND has made a lot of public statements like 'diversity is as important as gameplay and graphics' so you know they're gonna go for the low hanging political fruit here. (See also the most recent Uncharted outing, where they retconned Chloe as non-white, and indulged in the hijab fetish that's become popular with the Western Left over the past year or two)
It's kinda like how I feel about, say, Winston from Ghostbusters or Lando from OG Star Wars...very few people actually object to nonwhite/female/gay/whatever chars in stories, no one back in the Bad Old Days (TM) gave a shit about Winston or Lando being black. It's the fact that, now, such things will be used as patronizing political pandering that's annoying.
Not that there's anything wrong with preferring to consume stories about straight white dudes.
exit_sandman 5y ago
This. it's perfectly okay if a game offers players the option to play a homosexual character or a black guy or a chick or whatever - the more customization the merrier.
However, it starts becoming problematic if your character is intentionally tokenized by default with no real relevance to the plot because it basically communicates to the player "we don't want you to merely enjoy our game, we consider it equally important that we train you into becoming a better and more tolerant person".
I can live with that in an environment where such a decision was an actual risk or controversial (like, say, Star Trek where the cast included Uhura as a black role model, or DS9 where the leader was a black guy, or Voyager where the leader was an (annoying) woman - and all of those did so quite some time before it became "cool"). But doing it these days always has the the air of a virtue-signalling johnny-come-lately-progressive. They jump on the PC/diversity-train and pretend they're oh-so-courageous at a point where intentionally avoiding this would actually be more controversial, at least in the eyes of the media.
Zanford 5y ago
One of my favorite examples was Jodie Foster coming out as gay in, like, 2014, and acting like it was brave. Yeah, in Hollywood in 2014, very brave to be gay. Or least year, Kevin Spacey doing so to deflect his abuse allegations.
Also editorialists at NYTimes et. al. treating each new movie heroine (like Wonder Woman, which was actually good, or Ghostbusters, which was a shitstain) like she's the first of her kind...totally forgetting about Ripley from Aliens, Sarah Connor from Terminator, pretty much every Angelina Jolie character, and tons more.
It's like that Marxist concept about 'perpetual revolution'. Going round and round, like...hey, a hamster wheel!
BobLordOfTheCows 5y ago
Witcher 3 had some cringy white-knight moments. Like when Geralt says "it's current year, so society should accept this". That sneak that stuff into everything nowadays. This is why I stick with strategy games.
exit_sandman 5y ago
Yeah, this was pretty cringeworthy. But it was a pretty awesome game overall, and the prank call scene was hilarious, so I can live with that. It starts becoming really infuriating when ideology trumps quality and entertainment, and you're beaten over the head with it like it was the case with SW8.
Cthula-Hoops 5y ago
Eh I don't mind. Plus I kind of agree with 90% of the tolerance and acceptance mumbo jumbo. I think you should be allowed to smoke gay heroin out of field artillery if you want its just constitutional. Dont mind writers having liberal values at all. There is a line to be crossed but I don't think the Witcher does it.
Plus Geralt kind of is a white knight by design. He's chaotic neutral which I'd say is a fair description of IRL white knights.
BobLordOfTheCows 5y ago
It's fine to be liberal, but I don't like it pushed in games or other media.
Have you played the earlier games? He was not at all a white knight in those ones, unless the player's choices made him into one.
Cthula-Hoops 5y ago
I played the second one but it was too long ago to remember.
BobLordOfTheCows 5y ago
The original two aren't nearly as good, so I wouldn't recommend playing them. But in the first one he truly was THE lone wolf. Sure, you could save every damsel in distress, if you wanted. Or, you could tell them good luck and fuck off. They messed with his character to add in some SJW moments. It's always so subtle in video games now.
mubee94 5y ago
Fucking feminists wanted steam to ban offensive games to women also. Glad steam didn't give in to them
geo_gan 5y ago
yeah saw that... saw some stupid post on Facebook, where some dick wrote about how Steam was so "out of touch" with what gamers want. And what he apparently wanted was Valve to reverse their decision and start moderating/censoring games again. Even made up a giant collage with Twitter posts backing up his view. I saw it and thought, WTF, the best thing to happen to Valve/Steam in a long time and you want censorship back again? Think they didn't reverse decision again now though so 'eroge' is still there...
mubee94 5y ago
Make my words. These sjw's gonna be the downfall of the West
saibot83 5y ago
They are the useful idiots of the elite.
geo_gan 5y ago
Someone said it's a cycle - when society is prosperous and safe throughout history, women have advantage in deviousness and start taking control, then society collapses eventually and lawlessness takes over and women are no longer safe and need mens protection and all that SJW shit goes out the window again very quickly! Can you imagine how long any of your typical SJW would last in a Mad Max type environment?
Neo_Trunks 5y ago
Yeah, you're right about the cycles...but I don't think even the Romans had to go through shit like this! Pink haired feminists singing "Allahu Ahkbar" and hating on the white man? MADNESS.
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kurdishpower01 5y ago
Male feminists* Not even real girls
mubee94 5y ago
Yeah our so called white knights
ObliviouslyThrowaway 5y ago
Yeah. All those studios say that they are not shilling feminist power fantasy by adding female characters to games.
The fact that most major IPs all have females as one of their main protagonist this year, if not featured on the front cover, is just a pure coincidence.
This will go the way of Marvel, when they re-invented their characters as females. It will fail to attract female audience and male gamers who are in it for gaming won't give a shit.
On unrelated note. I was told that Israelis experimented with putting mixed units of men and women in frontline combat, and it ended up poorly. Apparently males really hate sound of moaning wounded woman. In other words. Men getting shot and screaming in agony makes other men angry. Woman getting shot makes men around compromise the mission and help her.
Sadly, I can't find reference for this, so take the last paragraph as hearsay. But it was all I could think of when I watched the last trailer for Battlefield 5 with a female voice in the background calling for medic. I think the evolution made men hard-wired to protect females. I don't know what it will do to gaming experience. I mean, do you really want to listen to women screaming in mortal agony during your free time activity?
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fuck videogames man, the whole diversity thing is acceptable sure but the whole battlefield thing with a female on the front is bizarre.
I suppose they want to make the amount of games open to all kinds of people so maybe they're aiming at the feminized men and women who like to feel all powerful(women are the main consumers remember?)
maybe it's time i design a videogame playing as a helpless beta who finally becomes a woman.
cuck of duty ; transwarfare
NotsoElite4 5y ago
If I can't play as a black japanese bald women with a manly voice I'm going to be upset.
banthrow 5y ago
Women buy games too. That move surely made them millions. Most importantly: Fathers buy games for their girls.
CaptDeadlift 5y ago
Can't wait to play conquest large with other 63 women running around the battlefield lol.
Truly immersive.
11-Eleven-11 5y ago
Hell man I watched some gameplay and every ten seconds I heard a women screaming.
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RedPilledRoaster 5y ago
I like to view it this way. When women participate in a masculine role, I find it cute.
Women can still lead. Women can emulate masculinity. They’ll never be an alpha, but there are so many soyboys now that a lot of women can take on masculine roles and do it better than most men could.
I could always do it better than her, yeah, but she can have her little leader spot if she wants it.
packetdata 5y ago
The amount of twitch thots sum it up.The other day i saw two chick playing cod while bouncing on a dido,they sucked at cod but needed the easy money.
Basically women will turn anything into sex since thats the only thing they have.
geo_gan 5y ago
agreed. see my reply above this!
acekilo 5y ago
Yea fucking Last of Us 2 is pissing me off with that BS man. And yes Feminism is ruining everything and girls are making channels in the video game world to attract and seek Validation from Geek Gamers. It's fucking sad
MayorMoonbeam 5y ago
Blah blah blah video games blah blah video games blah blah. Jesus Christ.
KznRob 5y ago
Definitely social validation. Girls don’t play video games because they don’t know how to have fun amongst other reasons. I do think it’s weird that games and movies are much more female centered these days but whatever just enjoy the boob physics and staring at a 3D hour glass figure instead of going outside and seeing whales everywhere lol
Vynxe-Vainglory 5y ago
Well, I work in the video game industry, and having gone to plenty of gatherings of industry professionals I’ll say that while SJWs aren’t the majority, they are by far the most vociferous and influential; and often are the people rising to power quickly in the field.
The recent influx of identity politics and pushing of postmodernist values in games isn’t surprising in the least.
Also, most of the new kids on the block are coming from university environments, which have recently been breeding grounds for extreme leftist thinking and witch hunt mentality.
So this is indeed the reality of future gaming at least for the next few years most likely.
That being said, I think video games should serve as the place to express these sort of things.
It’s all about fantasy, and in my opinion, these issues should be left to iron themselves out normally in the real world instead of by force; but in a game; anything goes.
The trouble I have is the fear that they will try to silence other types of fantasies, as extreme socialist groups tend to do.
If it does become that way; where the “fear of bad influence” will dictate extreme censorship among game devs, then all is lost.
Luckily, most game devs make a living off creating violent killing simulations, and will be among the last people in the world to admit that video games influence real world action.
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They're all miserable. When they see us men having fun, they feel excluded because they're miserable by nature.....a void/hole(s) just waiting to be filled. And they can't get enough of it.
First, it was voting rights.
Then, the jobs.
Then, the media.
Then, the gyms.
Then, the boy scouts.
Literally, every male space that's ever been formed, the wymyn demand memberships.
Even TRP has got a fair share of these fair-sexed cocksuckers wanting attention and validation from its core members.
As far as feminazism in the gaming industry is concerned, they fucked up Debiru Mei Kurai 5 by adding a feminazi sidekick......anyways I only play 1-2 video games a year and DMC5 was something I was awaiting for the last 6-7 years but it's all fucked.
ShjR 5y ago
Oh gee. When was Tomb Raider released? And please don’t start justifying that stuff with tits and ass.
Got2B22 5y ago
I don't pay money for games and I don't pay money for movies. If the game play is decent, I will suffer through the feminist clap trap, but they don't get a cent of my paycheck
ferri_vorous 5y ago
I read this as a purely market research based move, women just play a lot of videogames and thus are a market to be pandered too.
MuchFIERCE 5y ago
Imo its not rlly feminism its more of the fact that females are a large possible group of consumers they can target by making the whole industry seem more female friendly. Money talks, and women are like half the population.
ManguZa 5y ago
Video games, Films, Series, Books. It's difficult to find a good story somewhere without a fucking girl in masculine role toping men...
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[deleted] 5y ago
Video games were essentially my life for a good 25 years and even I think it's retarded to think that one should look to them for identity and validation. Honestly this sounds like something a poor bastard who grew up without a decent male influence in their life would complain about.
All you're seeing is capitalism in action. Entertainment products in general are courting females because they are a relatively new demographic with an increasing amount of disposable income and time. It's nothing personal, and it isn't like they are saying they don't want the business of males, they just want to improve their bottom line and sell more products to more people.
Personally I welcome more female avatars and characters in games, because when I choose to waste time staring at a screen, I enjoy seeing some overexaggerated tits and ass. Frankly I don't know what there is to complain about. If you don't like these avatars or the fact that games are including them, then don't play. Instead of bitching that developers are no longer catering to your specific interests, try being a man and create something on your own. Might I suggest tabletop games, where you can make your own setting from scratch?
PS: Chun-Li is the strongest woman in the world!
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SgtBrutalisk 5y ago
Go for indie games. The big devs have been overtaken by gambling-crazed suits anyway.
imheregonow004 5y ago
It’s not a bad thing but if they’re using a female character to showcase male characteristics then it’s pointless. Last of Us was really good at that. Having a female character (film or games) kicking ass doesn’t give that sense of realism.
Razkolol 5y ago
Who dafuq cares? Free market, let them try to sell whatever, you don't like it don't buy it, the market will correct itself, last time I checked profitability and efficiency are more important than feelings and agendas when sales > profit > stock price is involved. If marketing profitability analysis tells the video game companies that this shit will sell they will sell it, it just means that there are more female players. I personally don't play female characters since I don't relate for shit with the story, i'll just stare at their ass the whole time if it's 3rd person.
Neo_Trunks 5y ago
The numbers lost by avid gamers will be salvaged by the number of SJW's buying those crap games, unfortunately.
It will take "a while" for the market to understand this mistake...
Jade_Cokeplate 5y ago
Dont buy them then.
I hate to say it but this post reeks of butthurt.
I stopped buying EA games 10 years ago, and havent lost a wink of sleep over it.
jaedgy 5y ago
What do you mean? There were black trans demisexual genderqueer women in the S.S.