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Interesting article from the BBC discussing factors that can affect the ratio of male to female babies. One of them is that high status men tend to give birth to more sons. Males and females must mathematically produce the same number of offspring, but male success is much more variable. Women can only birth one baby at a time and then must devote an immense amount of time and resources to its care, whereas a high status man could impregnate many women simultaneously and a low status male could be shut out. There is already ample evidence to support this such as historical genetic studies showing that many more females reproduced than males in prehistoric times but that those males that did reproduce had more babies.

The observed tendency of high status males to have more sons is further evidence. Evolution does not care about the variance of reproduction, it only seeks to maximize the mean. Somehow, the male’s body must “know” that he is high status and produces more Y chromosome sperm.

Think of having a boy as your genes swinging for a home run and having a girl as taking the sure base on balls. Because a father was likely to pass his status on to his son (the chief’s son probably got more pussy than the baker’s son), having additional sons, while generically risky, had a huge potential genetic payoff. Thus on average, high status men would have passed on more genes if they had sons than if they had daughters.

http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20161014-why-billionaires-have-more-sons

Edit: this is by far the worst reaction I’ve ever seen to a good post. Bunch of morons responding who didn’t even read the article and obviously have very little understanding of evolutionary biology. This isn’t even a controversial finding. It’s well established that there are many factors which can effect birth ratios. The quality of TRP membership seems to be in free fall.

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bob13bob 5y ago

it's important to remember this is not a scientific article, and the title doesn't actually examine any deep data from billionaires (they won't share it). some can argue that lower social status people are having the most sons AND daughter via the "welfare state".

fascinating, but hte article makes skips over relevant info. EG many people have access to remove eggs, fertlize, select sex and re-implant. even middle class people in industrialized nations are gaining this ability. also selective abortion is a very affordable form of gender selection i your offspring.

even during most severe circumstances of he Chinese famine, ratio swung from 109boy:100girls to 105boys:100 girls; it's significant but shouldn't be overblown. billionaires have 65% boys, i would bet money those weren't natural selections do the significant difference.

also, the article mentions, having a minority sex can actually increases your genetic outcomes being more scarce. Right now in China, women ironically, are more valued and arguablly the best treated women of the asian counties because they are not a scarce resource.

as posted here, for every 2 women that successfully passed on genetic material (produced surviving offspring), only 1 man has done so. This ratio has spiked to 17 women to 1 man (around the time of agricultural revolution about 10k years ago).

Also, keep in mind genetic chads who are donaring out their sperm to lesbians and even some straight couples. They are chosen from a book of looks and achievements including height, you have to pay more the more chad they are. These guys are spreading more genetic material than any other group.

Troll_Name 5y ago

Interesting article from the BBC discussing factors that can affect the ratio of male to female babies. One of them is that high status men tend to give birth to more sons.

I didn't know TRP sexual theory included the chromosomes that come out of a man's testicles.

RedPillWintergreen 5y ago

Another interesting fact about rich men is that their wives do not work. Despite the feminist heralding of the career woman and the denigration of the housewife, the high status wealthy seem to live the 1950s ideal.

Bluetinfoilhat 5y ago

Are you sure about that. Many of them work mostly non profits in fact.

RedPillWintergreen 5y ago

That's not real work. It's not something they could be fired from or even something that an outsider could tell if they were doing a poor job. I doubt they ever put in an 80 hour week to meet a deadline either.

Bluetinfoilhat 5y ago

Thinking of tech billionaires in particular many of them have real jobs. Most in STEM.

RedPillWintergreen 5y ago

What percentage would you say?

Bluetinfoilhat 5y ago

I can't say but most work. The ones that don't work seem to be in finance/wall street.

TesticlesTheElder 5y ago

Isn’t there some corollary study that says SEALs and other SF operators have significantly more daughters?

bob13bob 5y ago

those guys only make good money if htey go private.

_flashpoint 5y ago

I have not read this but I do remember a study posted on here a while back that showed historically US presidents have had a disproportionate number of sons over daughters. I believe it was on the order of 70/30 or so.

DoubleTappp 5y ago

We just assume it's because of the VHF/HF frequencies.

I have absolutely zero science to back that up, merely observation.

The_Chiselnator 5y ago

SEALS and SF Operators are not billionaires and actually have very little resources to share with anyone. You are not plundering and berseking for your own private enrichment. Put in 8 years myself. Counter-terrorism. Got out with just 6,000$ as savings and loads of debt.

Beerbeer007 5y ago

Modern Slaves are not in chains <=> they are in Debt.

"The control mechanisms in the current financial system have become overwhelming" - Heinrich Wohlmeyer https://arretsurinfo.ch/les-mecanismes-de-controle-dans-le-systeme-financier-actuel-sont-devenus-ecrasants/

"This dictatorship of the economy has become more despotic than ever before, for those who, when they have the financial tool and control it entirely, also control credit and govern its allocation as they see fit. Through credit, they regulate, so to speak, the blood circulation of the economic body; they hold at this point, in their hands, the control of this vital flow, that no one is able to breathe without their authorization. "- Pope Pius XI

Troll_Name 5y ago

Modern Slaves are not in chains <=> they are in Debt.

Debt slavery predates preserved history.

Debtor's obligations are a softer-wording of human chattel status. The people in question usually have 0% authority over their finances, and they magically "settle their debt" once there is nothing of profit left for the slavers to take from them. Not one moment sooner no matter how much they produce.

The flip side: you can't have debtor's rights AND 'global citizenry.' If you insist on putting both into the same space then creditors are the new slaves. I've missed meals because people vanished into thin air owing me the compensation for my prior several months.

Beerbeer007 5y ago

Not to forget: it depends on how much your own Time + Effort are valued = This is Energy. ¿Who values your Energy's worth?

In the study of energy systems, there are always three basic concepts. These are potential energy, kinetic energy, and energy dissipation. And corresponding to these three concepts, there are three essential and idealized physical counterparts called passive components.

1 - In physical science, the potential energy phenomenon is associated with a physical property called elasticity or rigidity, which can be represented by a stretched spring. In electronic science, potential energy is stored in a capacitor instead of a spring. This property is called capacitance instead of elasticity or stiffness. 2 - In physical science, the phenomenon of kinetic energy is associated with a physical property called inertia or mass, and can be represented by a mass in motion. In electronic science, kinetic energy is stored in an inductor (a magnetic field). This property is called induction instead of inertia. 3 - In physical science, the phenomenon of energy dissipation is associated with a physical property called friction or resistance, which can be represented by a device converting energy into heat. In electronic science, the dissipation of energy is produced by an element called resistance or conductor. This property is called resistance or conductance.

Economic capacity <=> Capital (money, stocks in inventory, real estate investment or in sustainable values, etc.)
Economic conduct <=> Goods (workflow coefficients)
Economic inductance <=> Services.

The E model:

A national economy consists of simultaneous flows of production, distribution, consumption, and investment. If we assign a numerical value to all these elements, including work and human functions, with as a unit of measure, say, the dollar of 1939, then this flow can be represented by a current flowing in an electric circuit, and its behavior can be predicted and manipulated with useful precision. The three passive energy components of electronics, the capacitor, the driver (or resistor), and the inductor, correspond to the three passive energy components of the economy, respectively called capital, goods, and services.

[deleted] 5y ago

Yeah that's what I thought , ususlly Alfa Sports people have a higher percentage of daughters. I'll have to find that study

Ananonguy88 5y ago

I remember some other study stating that it depends on the woman's environment, not males'. In stressful habitat they tend to make more daughters. Probably to amplify the re-population after crisis like wars etc. Billionaires' women have it easy so they have more sons.

MattyAnon Admin 5y ago

This seems unlikely given that it is the sperm that carries the gender specific DNA (either a Y or an X chromosome).

For the woman's environment to matter, either the egg needs to detect the gender of the sperm (extremely unlikely), or the embryo is later selectively aborted depending on gender.

sd4c 5y ago

Subtle changes in the pH of the woman's vaginal fluids can affect which swimmers make it to HQ (XX or XY). There may be other mechanisms as well.

MattyAnon Admin 5y ago

This makes it sound cooperative between the male and the female, which would be fascinating. Woman indicates the stress of her environment through pH, sperm behaves differently as a result.

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Ramp_Up_Then_Dump 5y ago

I sense a lot of bullshit here. The explanation I know for slightly more male rates in birth I know tells baby embrios may die in early stages. This explanation is better than bro-evolution and stupid bbc articles.

jefecaminador1 5y ago

Right, from my understanding male mortality rates are higher at all points of life, including before they are born. At conception you are more likely to be male than female, but by the time you are actually born the percentages are similar because more boys misscarry. Being a billionaire probably gives you a higher chance of not having a miscarriage and therefore have more boys.

[deleted] 5y ago

It’s not bullshit. It’s an observed phenomenon. The article duscusses many factors that are observed to result in more male or female babies on average. It also has nothing to do with the fact that slightly more births are male in the general population. We are talking about deviations from that average. Try reading before offering uninformed opinions.

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originaltransvaginal 5y ago

Ooo missed a chance to hold frame and deal with a contender properly.

[deleted] 5y ago

I think the most shocking part about this post is that high status men give birth.

I mean...I knew life was different for a high status male...But this...

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[deleted] 5y ago

This is what happens when you become a super alpha male. You become a man who can give birth.

[deleted] 5y ago

I guess they just come out of your dick ready to go at that point.

Ahh...life goals...

Harleydamienson 5y ago

They could always abort the girls. That's what they did in china, i could see a billionaire making a calculated decision like that.

[deleted] 5y ago

As a man that comes from a alpha/red-pill family of mostly men, whom all had sons, and now has a son of my own, etc. this does not surprise me.

ChicksLoveAJ1s 5y ago

Lol hate to break it to ya but wealth is actually a provider value not an alpha value. Sexually attractive men have more daughters, high wealth provider males have more sons.

Physically more attractive parents are more likely to have daughters than physically less attractive parents. The gTWH proposes that parents who possess any heritable trait which increases the female reproductive success more than the male reproductive success are more likely to have daughters. Physical attractiveness, while advantageous for both boys and girls, is even more beneficial for girls than for boys. Men prefer beautiful women for both long-term and short-term mating, whereas women prefer handsome men only for short-term mating (casual affairs and one-night stands), not for long-term mating, for which other traits, such as wealth and status, become more important.

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[deleted] 5y ago

Alpha or beta are male sexual strategies. Handsomeness and wealth are attractors of female sexual strategy. One can be a handsome beta just as one can be a wealthy alpha. If a wealthy alpha uses providership as a sexual strategy then he becomes a beta. Also, the two are not mutually exclusive, meaning a man can be both handsome and wealthy—what matters is: is the man using alpha or beta sexual strategy? A poor, ugly man using alpha strat will have much more success than a handsome, wealthy beta. Lastly, have you ever been around a rich, famous, or powerful person? I promise there is no shortage of female interest. Rock stars-groupies are a great example.

ChicksLoveAJ1s 5y ago

I agree with a lot of what you said but that doesn't change the fact that alphas have more daughters and betas have more sons.

[deleted] 5y ago

It seems like you’re equating handsomeness with alpha and wealth with beta.

ChicksLoveAJ1s 5y ago

Well yeah, they are closely connected. A handsome man more likely to be a good alpha and and good alpha is more likely to be handsome. Wealth is connected to being a good beta and being a good beta is connected to wealth.