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- Hide Preview | 108 Comments | submitted about a year ago by TrenGod37 [Post Locked]

I see a lot of guys all miserable because they discovered the red pill and now they think they can never have a relationship with any woman because they’re going to get cheated on. Or the simple fact they think they can’t have a normal LTR period.

If you’re in an LTR or getting cheated on to a point you’re convinced ALL women WILL cheat. You are the problem. This means you suck at screening women or your SMV/life sucks.

I spent most of my years with ONS, plates, FB. But I have been in 4 LTR (Longer than a year) in my life. I have also been in relationships where I knew the woman was most likely going to cheat. Or at the very least was going to be more of a pain in the ass than I wanted to deal with worrying if it was going on. That’s why they never became my LTR.

The red flags will be there fellas. It’s as simple as that. Even if they are subtle; pictures she posts, the type of attention she looks for, how she interacts with other dudes, etc.

The more you deal with women the easier it is to not only screen them, but to notice even the most subtle of red flags.

I been with my current LTR for 5 years now. She doesn’t have social media. She is foreign and was raised by a good father/mother and 2 brothers (alpha males). She was raised old fashion. She doesn’t entertain orbiters. She wouldn’t hook up with me when I had a girlfriend, Etc. My point being is even though she can still cheat. She had very little red flags to. Even with all that I didn’t go and make her my LTR right away. But she proved her loyalty over time.

But it doesn’t stop there. That’s all fine and dandy with then screening process. But it doesn’t stop there. had I been a pussy beta male who let her run the relationship. Had she not cheated, she would have left my ass probably very soon before.

I constantly have to have my shit together. As we say I have to win her attraction over everyday. I do that by being jacked. Having a good career with set goals. Hobbies. I follow all the red pill advice as good as I can. I make myself as attractive as I can. And I also hang around the MRP to make sure I own my shit and am a good captain.

So it is totally possible to have a healthy and happy LTR ( if that’s what you want ) without being miserable or in constant fear of being cheated on but that is entirely UP TO YOU.

There are plenty of loyal women (I know you use the word loyal and women in the same sentence and everyone here screams impossible, but I have seen it plenty of times, first hand) out there for the right man. Be the right man. If you honestly think out of the 6.3 billion women on this planet that ALL of them are going to cheat you’re just being ignorant. Or too delusional to admit you got a lot of work to do.

So stop blaming women for your shitty screening process and the fact you’re not as high value as you think. Or the fact you jump into relationships with the wrong women because you let your emotions cloud your judgement. And start noticing the red flags before hand. They are always there.

I had a FWB who I grew really close to. I honestly was thinking about making her my LTR. She pushed for it. She never gave me a direct reason to not trust her but there was subtle red flags there that I couldn’t ignore. Guy friends (that she knew for years), Pictures she posted (nothing crazy just slight cleavage), the way she would interact with other dudes (seemed just friendly and innocent to everyone else, but I saw something else). On the surface it all seemed harmless and most guys would have brushed it off as AWALT. But I knew better. I cut her loose and sure enough she had fucked her “childhood best friend” the guy she told me of all her orbiters, he was the one I definitely didn’t have to worry about, a month after I left. To everyone else she was “wifey material” but my gut and years of dealing with women knew better.

If you’re being cheated on with in the first year or months of your relationship it’s a good sign you have the issues I’m talking about.

It’s when you’re 2-3 years into a relationship and she knows everything about you. The fake alpha act you put on can’t be hidden anymore and you have to run a tight ship everyday. That’s when she’s more likely to cheat. No matter who she is.

As always it’s just your turn. All women are capable of cheating. But it’s up to you to find the ones worth dating.

TL;DR if you’re getting cheated on you probably suck at screening women or are inexperienced. The red flags are always there.

That being said everyone can still get cheated on but it shouldn’t be reoccurring.

Edit: changed wording because apparently people lose totally value/focus/point of a post if you say something that doesn’t match with their reality.

[-] frendo223 66 Points about a year ago

“I have done 4 ltrs And 3 I have not been cheated on that know for a fact.”

i shouldn’t even have to say this but there’s no possible way for you to know this... feel dumber for even having to point this out. Damn this is delusional lmfao.

I mean you can think you haven’t been cheated on all you want.. lol

[-] hydro908 19 Points about a year ago

Yea I laughed when he said that too

[-] TrenGod37 16 Points about a year ago

Telling people you haven’t been cheated on in this sub is like going to a Catholic Church and trying to tell them that Jesus didn’t rise from the dead. Just because you have been cheated on does not mean all women cheat.

Regardless if you want to believe it or not or if it happened or not. Doesn’t matter.

The post still holds value.

You’re missing the point. There will be red flags. If she’s more likely to cheat.

Edit: I took that out for the simple fact you guys can’t seem to be open minded or focus on something that might help you or other because of one sentence. That “didn’t happen like that to you. So it can’t be true!”

[-] Pilliam66 31 Points about a year ago

People aren't saying that they definitely cheated on you, only that you have no way of knowing if they did or not.

[-] [deleted] 14 Points about a year ago

Yeah, and for someone who has red pill knowledge to make a statement like, "I have definitely not been cheated on", almost deserves the response, "go back and read the sidebar". He doesn't understand how far off the wagon that statement ruins whatever else he is about to say. It's a shame, because he's right about the red flags that women throw up. You just have to be able to see them, and calibrate.

[-] TrenGod37 5 Points about a year ago

Yes I get it. It was a bold statement. I have good reasons to why I believe I didn’t get cheated on but yes I agree there’s no way of 100% confirming. I took it out. Now get over it.

[-] MyFirstOtherAccount 4 Points about a year ago

It's just the way this site or forums are in general, don't worry about it. People will nit pick the tiniest thing. And remember if you make a statement that runs against the "agreed upon knowledge" then you are gonna get backlash.

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[-] womans_algorithm -5 Point about a year ago

TBH he is implying it, by his arrogant tone.

[-] Youngyoda89 8 Points about a year ago

I understand what you’re saying. Once you do get cheated on once (like myself in the past) you can spot a hoe from a mile away. All the signs you noted (cleavage pics,guy friends, etc.) Any girl that has “guy friends” is fucking them or open to it. A “guy friend” is not an orbiter.

If your “girlfriend” tells you she has guy friends just do yourself a favor and next that bitch. After I heard that term used in my first relationship I spent some time fucking women and saw this a lot. I found that this type of behavior is most common in white hoes. Which is why I stopped fucking with them years ago. Just my 2 cents.

[-] red_philosopher 3 Points about a year ago

Nothing wrong with fucking them. There's everything wrong with LTRing them haha.

[-] Youngyoda89 3 Points about a year ago

There’s nothing wrong with it for some but I’d rather stick my dick into a hole that’s only had 2 other dicks rather than one that’s currently being used by 5-10 dicks.

[-] TonytheNetworker 2 Points about a year ago

I’d rather stick my dick into a hole that’s only had 2 other dicks rather than one that’s currently being used by 5-10 dicks.

i think we all would but what are the chances of that happening when sluts are being glorified and lying about their body count?

[-] Youngyoda89 1 Point about a year ago

Agreed. There are plenty of women out there that aren’t sluts; you just have to know how to choose them. Trust me- after you fuck a good amount of sluts you can easily spot one from a mile out.

[-] nebder 1 Point about a year ago

spergs in a nutshell. fuck em

The message will hit the right targets. Looking back I can always see my willful ignorance on the relationships that didn’t work out. It’s a good lesson if you can get the emotions out of the way.

[-] red_philosopher 7 Points about a year ago

Looking back I can always see my willful ignorance on the relationships that didn’t work out.

This. Every Trainwreck of a relationship I ever had was because I never wanted to see the writing on the wall.

[-] harbinger1945 11 Points about a year ago

Yesterday I fucked my ex while she was sexting with a guy "she is totally into"(her own words). Well guess what the guy was who knows where, while I was at her place and fucking her brains out.

I am kind of new to TRP and all but this thing yesterday just showed me that no matter what girl is texting you, she can be riding someone's dick during that texting. I don't have to be a genius to know that if this girl(which is clearly totally different person than I thought she is) is capable of doing this, then other girls will not be that much different.

My view on this is this(in LTR): If she's cheating on me and I don't know it, I don't care(you don't have control over actions of other people anyway so why the hell should you care)... The moment I will find out, it's over.

[-] [deleted] 6 Points about a year ago

And this is part of the God Damn problem. You are literally hamstering in this comment. Some of you fellas gotta stop being so thirsty. I am all about guys spinning plates like the next one, but nothing is considered fucking sacred anymore. If you honest to God can say you knowingly fucked some dudes GF or wife, and you are posting here, you are part of the fucking problem. Im not saying you have to be an advocate for marriage or relationships, but at least do not exacerbate the problems that created the need for places like TRP in the first place. Just because you can do something does not always mean you should. I lurk here more than I post, and 95% percent of the material I see, I 100% agree with. But when "Alphas" genuinely add to the problems young bucks are coming here to help have fixed you should literally be crucified and staked to a cross for your very transparent Blue Pill behavior.

[-] red_philosopher 4 Points about a year ago

There has only been one woman I trusted to not have cheated on me in my life. Every other one, totally was riding cock. When my last LTR was laughing at bad jokes a male accquaintence was making, I knew it was over. She wanted his D, and there was nothing I could do to stop the hypergamy train.

BEeP bEEp motherfucker LoL

[-] InternationalGate1 34 Points about a year ago

What I get from this is that you

1) have to keep your value up, and this will reduce the likelihood of the women cheating.

2) Obviously, screen the woman before committing.

I see nothing wrong with this. I find it to be an encouraging message.

Sure, all women have the capacity to cheat and be unfaithful, to varying degrees. They have the same basic insticts - what makes them women - but there are variations within the group that makes each woman somewhat different. Some will be outliers on the extreme end of things in either direction, but most will not be.

I don't think it is the best idea for oneself to have the presumption that all women will cheat sooner or later, just that they can, if you are not keeping your game up. Just like you shouldn't stick around for a woman that is not keeping her game up in a way that satisfies you.

[-] womans_algorithm 7 Points about a year ago

I don't think it is the best idea for oneself to have the presumption that all women will cheat sooner or later.

Imagine being in a state of mind like that. Worrying all the time about when she will cheat on you, because "TRP said all women are whores, AWALT". No surprise such people just spin plates (if that). Having anything more (yes, more, I think having a real fulfilling relationship is (biologically) better than casual fucking) is not possible for them.

This may come across as a hating comment, but I was in the same boat, so I understand that reality.

[-] dingleburry_joe 1 Point about a year ago

Great comment, constantly thinking that she gonna cheat would fuck with your mind and how you behave and feel being around her

[-] mette13 24 Points about a year ago

Don't forget that we are all human. We all crave stimulation and sometimes a guy with a similar or lower SMV might attract her simply because it is new and different.

[-] gerberend7 5 Points about a year ago

This deserves way more upvotes

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[-] ex_addict_bro 23 Points about a year ago

Stating that you haven’t been cheated on is a sign of you being external validation dependent. Bitches cheat no matter what we do. Her cheating may have something to do with me being lousy but not always. Read some news see all those famous rich people still being cheated on... does it mean anything nowadays?

[-] TrenGod37 0 Points about a year ago

I doubt most of those famous rich people have time to study game or anything of the sort. Besides status and some with looks. They don’t have much going for them in the game department I’m sure

[-] red_philosopher 2 Points about a year ago

Every last famous/rich man has shit for game huh?

Sounds awfully fucking convenient.

[-] TrenGod37 -1 Point about a year ago

No but I can tell you one thing. They are spending their time studying women. Game. Or any of the sort.

[-] red_philosopher 1 Point about a year ago

The assumptions you make are unreal man. Wake up.

[-] TrenGod37 4 Points about a year ago

Me making that assumption is like you saying ALL women will cheat. It’s assuming the same shit just on a different plane. I swear I’m dealing with a bunch of teenagers who play videos games all day on this post. Your intellect is so one dimensional

[-] red_philosopher 5 Points about a year ago

I don't think ALL women WILL cheat. I do, however, think that ALL women are capable of it, and that they ABSOLUTELY would if provided the opportunity to fulfill their sexual imperative without consequence.

It is the social consequence of cheating that prevents devoted and traditional women from engaging in their nature unchecked. The loss of family support, the loss of friends, the destruction of her reputation. If that wasn't an issue, AWALT. She would be riding the CC just like any other thot.

And that's the point here.

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[-] SKRedPill 20 Points about a year ago

Life is inherently chaotic. One day or another, some day or another, you'll leave everything and everyone behind and move on. You could be killed while crossing a street and your family will have no choice but to pull on without you. Misery if it wants can strike you anywhere. It's all up to how important you think your goals are and if you feel you should take the risk and enforce your boundaries.

My advice as a guy who's seen his life crumble (not for cheating, but due to a breakdown of the marriage itself) is, have another life planned out in the blue prints that won't involve anyone or anything you have right now. That way you'll still be able to move on if you get hit.

[-] TrenGod37 12 Points about a year ago

I feel as though your life should be that plan period. And If you choose to get into a LTR. She is just as added bonus by the value she adds to it. If my girl left me tomorrow my life would be the exact same as it was yesterday. I don’t need to plan another life out or a plan B. If you’re doing that then your adjusting your life according to her to begin with.

[-] TonytheNetworker 1 Point about a year ago

Wish I could upvote more than once. Had a girl shame me because I adamantly choose to live life the way I see fit and it doesn't have her included. "If I left tomorrow you wouldn't even care would you?" to which I replied "I'd be disappointed for a few minutes but then I would resume life and carry on without you." She got so pissy and defensive, was kinda amusing.

[-] indigo-rain 15 Points about a year ago

This is refreshing. A number of women that I have recently encountered have been very sexual upfront. Bending over right in front of me, taking a long time to adjust their shoes. I was suspicious of this because, why the fuck is this woman being so brazenly sexual? I thought that either she does this with a lot of guys, or she is trying to entrap me in her orbit. The former disgusts me and the latter fills me with disdain. I see at least one of those recent examples regularly now, and holy shit, she has a lot of guys in her orbit. They might be hot and great for sex, but naked-time without a connection just doesn't appeal to me now.

[-] ahab_dies 2 Points about a year ago

It astounds me how many men fall for this and think they're special.

If a girl is hitting on you hard, or is sexually aggressive, you're not the first, second, or third guy she's done this to and you definitely won't be the last. Have fun but don't commit. I've seen guys put a ring on these women because they enjoy the ego boost of being pursued aggressively.

[-] indigo-rain 2 Points about a year ago

Thanks, your comment about men committing due to the sheer fact that they're being strongly pursued was helpful for me. With one girl I mentioned, it does seem like she is still pursuing me.

But, so what? What else does she bring? I have and have had plenty of women pursue me. She's the hottest in awhile, but that does not mean that I am going to enjoy myself when I spend any significant amount of time with her.

[-] ahab_dies 1 Point about a year ago

Good luck to you. Take it for what you will, enjoy it for what you can. If its nothing, fine. If its something, fine. Just make sure that you're looking after yourself.

[-] jinglebells89 1 Point about a year ago

Yup. Lots of women will give you super strong IOIs and it'll make you feel all warm and gooey until you observe she acts like that w/ most every guy she comes into contact with.

[-] neso225 15 Points about a year ago

The best relationships are based on lies

[-] IntrovertedMagma 7 Points about a year ago

lol House M.D is full of red pills.

[-] neso225 4 Points about a year ago

Man im watching that series its so friking good

[-] IntrovertedMagma 3 Points about a year ago

Yeah bro.. House M.D is a huge inspiration in my life.. I watched the show more than 10 times.

[-] DrBarnabyJonesJr 3 Points about a year ago

You guys just turned me on to something amazing. I love this show.

[-] neso225 1 Point about a year ago

Wow bro hahahaha nice it was nice chating with you

[-] Liart13 10 Points about a year ago

Yeah this topic is not gonna be popular around here. Lots of guys feel vulnerable about cheating so they gonna get defensive about their mantra which keeps them emotionally unattached to girls they're fucking. Truth is, if your LTR girl barely started flirting with someone for like more than one day, you'll notice that. If you aren't blind and retarded, that is.

[-] red_philosopher 2 Points about a year ago

This is the RP you need to swallow still.

If a woman is brazen enough to openly flirt with another guy in front of you (straight up disrespect), what did she do in secret behind your back? You are blue-pilled here if you think she was legit not cheating on you already.

[-] womans_algorithm 3 Points about a year ago

what did she do in secret behind your back?

This is exactly what OP is saying - you gain nothing by thinking like that. Seriously, ask yourself, what is the point of thinking about what she might do behind your back?

[-] red_philosopher 1 Point about a year ago

Nothing. However there's a HUGE fucking difference between not thinking that way and believing that it wouldn't happen. Which is the problem.

[-] womans_algorithm 2 Points about a year ago

So you're admitting your point is invalid. And no one in this thread said he believes cheating won't happen. So you're using a straw man argument.

[-] red_philosopher 3 Points about a year ago

I'm not refuting the OP's basic premise. I agreeing with the OP's premise. The more you own your shit and the better a job you do vetting your women, the less likely it is to happen over all. I agree here 110%.

What I do have a problem with, is that he makes a circular argument:

  • Assertion: Own your shit and pay attention to what's going
  • Benefit: you are less likely to get cheated on
  • Appeal to Expertise: I know that I haven't been cheated on in 3 of my 4 relationships [therefore this advice is right]

He can't KNOW he hasn't been cheated on in 3 of 4 LTRs. It's not possible for him to know unless he chained these women in a basement every day of their relationship. It's an assertion that is being used to support his premise that cannot be proven. Because of A, B. B must be true, because if it's not, A isn't true. Therefore both must be true. How about no.

[-] womans_algorithm 1 Point about a year ago

OP removed the "appeal to expertise" part. His reasoning: 'I took that out for the simple fact you guys can’t seem to be open minded or focus on something that might help you or other because of one sentence. That “didn’t happen like that to you. So it can’t be true!”'

Also I wouldn't say it was his argument to support his writing, more of like an extra. OP's point still stands regardless if he wrote that appeal or not.

[-] red_philosopher 2 Points about a year ago

Has nothing to do with OPs point and everything to do with the fact that OP obviously doesn't think AWALT is a thing. He deserved the backlash.

[-] womans_algorithm 1 Point about a year ago

What are you on, m8? First you make a whole comment about what OP's argument (assertion, benefit and appeal to expertise), now you're saying it has nothing to do with OP's point. Read top rated comment in this thread, it makes OP's post simpler so you will get the point, and not shit around with your trolling.

[-] Liart13 3 Points about a year ago

I haven't said anything about openly flirting though. You just assumed that.

[-] red_philosopher 2 Points about a year ago

If you notice it, I can promise it's open.

[-] Liart13 2 Points about a year ago

I don't think private message flirting is what you can call "open". It's easy to notice though.

[-] red_philosopher 1 Point about a year ago

Po-tAy-to Po-tAH-to. The only reason you notice it is because it is done in your presence, IE, openly. If it is done completely in secret, you'd never know. The fact that they are doing it means that they are getting ready to branch-swing anyway.

[-] Liart13 1 Point about a year ago

Nope, there are countless different situations which lead to shit being exposed. And shit always floats. IF you are not blind or retarded. If you can't see that your LTR girl is loosing interest in you and focusing elsewhere then maybe you should buy contact lenses and take some vitamin B.

[-] Narcissist456 8 Points about a year ago

If she breathes, she’s a thot.

[-] IntrovertedMagma 5 Points about a year ago

So you are advocating NAWALT..

Dude are you high?? If you are red pilled then you believe Awalt.. Simple.

The female nature is the same in all women whether you like it or not.. The only difference is that women today have no consequences and thus they can unleash their hypergamous nature..

So before you post on this sub and act like you know it all, seriously read the side bar first.

I like how purple pillers come here to preach us after a girl gave them a blowjob.. Wtf lol

[-] Dark_Lord_A 4 Points about a year ago

"If you are red pilled then you believe Awalt"

Bro, AWALT doesn't mean all women are going to cheat any time they have an opportunity to do so. That's just self-destructive thinking. Any one can kill another person. Doesn't mean they will though.

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[-] Dark_Lord_A 0 Points about a year ago

Would you like another example?

Anyone is capable of singing; doesn't mean that they will.

Anyone can get into a fight for no reason; doesn't mean they will.

Anyone can learn to code, can learn a new language, can learn to fight but it doesn't mean that they will.

[-] ss3kidgoku 3 Points about a year ago

As one redditer has stated. “AWALT =/= All Women Do That”

[-] TrenGod37 2 Points about a year ago

I’m not going to bother to explain to you. Clearly going over your head and you need to feel special. I state multiple times that’s she can cheat.

That or you haven’t read the post in full. Or my last post taking about AWALT

[-] trollreign 4 Points about a year ago

Masculinity involves taking risk. Why is everyone so risk-averse?

When you get into an exclusive LTR, you take a risk. You gamble. You put your money on your favourite horse.

Of course she can cheat. Of course she can just "fall out of love" or bring up whatever bullshit excuse. There is literally nothing you can do about that beside working on being the best you you can be.

You need to accept that you cannot control a lot of shit. Sometimes things happen that are 100% out of your control. Avoiding all risk by trying to control everything is both a futile attempt and a display of insecurity.

[-] TrenGod37 3 Points about a year ago

There are smarter Risk than others. You’re not going to go to the casino and bet 1000 on 00 on roulette. There are smarter ways to play

[-] abudun79 4 Points about a year ago

Good read, because it doesn't add to the sinpleminded common narrative. It is always nice to see someone being positive and putting red pill knowledge to work and not use it as an justification for autistic and anti-social behavior.

But no one wants to believe that NAWANLT is more realistic than AWALT. NAWANLT is not black/white enough to be considered possible.

Thank you.

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[-] askmrcia 4 Points about a year ago

There are plenty of loyal women (I know you use the word loyal and women in the same sentence and everyone here screams impossible, but I have seen it plenty of times, first hand) out there for the right man. Be the right man. If you honestly think out of the 6.3 billion women on this planet that ALL of them are going to cheat you’re just being ignorant. Or too delusional to admit you got a lot of work to do.

I honestly get tired of the whole "there are x billion women on the planet, no way they can be all awalt. Just find the right one" argument.

First off genius it's not like every single one of those women of the 3 billion on the planet are accessible. How many of those women are old? How many are minors? How many of those live in your damn Country, state or even fuckin city? If you live in the states then cross off three billion women that you can possibly ltr because three billion are in China, India, Africa and the Middle East.

You sound like every other new guy that comes to this sub. As soon as they get their "unicorn" they make posts as if they know everything and women are unicorns only if you find that particular unicorn. Then as soon as they break up we get another shitty AWALT post about how alpha they were and they girl left them for Chad.

I know quite a few guys who have been married for 20 years, with kids and nice houses and the woman still cheats. Don't believe me, head your ass over to mrp and listen to those guy's stories. I mean you did say that's where you go right?

Edit: changed wording because apparently people lose totally value/focus/point of a post if you say something that doesn’t match with their reality.

Nah bro, you back tracking on your comments. I totally get what you are trying to say. Yes men no doubt need to screen better. Yes I get mad at guys here who try and wife up tinder and bar Thots then bitch when their girl cheats.

But at the same time you come across as a guy who finally had a ltr that lasted over three years after your many failed relationships and now you think you know how to attract unicorns. The whole part where you say there are billions out there proves my point and I can see exactly that you think you are "mister know it all."

I agree with some of your post, but man this stuff reaks of blue pill and I can tell you are trying to back pedal by mentioning "well still its just your turn" at the end of your post so you can avoid anyone calling you out for advocating NWALTS.

Its like you're playing both sides of the fence. If you want to believe unicorns are out there then go ahead and say it. I know a lot of Mormons who attended BYU and from what I can see they seem like good women. No drinking, no partying, no clubbing, ect... But my point still stands.

Your post would have been much better if you weren't masturbating to yourself bragging about how many women you slept with and then how you have a unicorn. If you would have left that bs out, your post would have been fine.

[-] TrenGod37 -4 Point about a year ago

All I will say to that novel of drivel is all the men at MRP who are married and have been there for sometime or EC. Have loyal wives. Otherwise they wouldn’t have wives as all.

[-] MilkMoney111 3 Points about a year ago

Spot on. I think all women will “cheat” or at least set up a branch swing solely based on how they perceive their man. So in short, take responsibility, maintain frame, and lead the relationship. Never let her think she doesn’t have to put in work either.

So screen for a decent candidate (maybe 5% of women you’re interested in would be relationship material), find one without major red flags, and keep frame every single day. Never lose it bc you can bet even without the red flags, she will see weakness and act immediately.

[-] zboo1h 3 Points about a year ago

I agree that the warning signs will be there, and sometimes they are easy to ignore for a great ass or some incredibly fine-tuned blowjobs, but you know what I've discovered the best recipe is for not getting cheated on FOR SURE? Don't be in a LTR. Works every time.

[-] U-94 3 Points about a year ago

I'm not afraid of cheating. I'm more apprehensive of entering a LTR where I don't give a fuck about the woman simply because that's how you have to play if you want them to cooperate. Sometimes not caring is as exhausting as caring, you're stuck both directions.

[-] SimpleJacked 2 Points about a year ago

On a long enough timeline all women cheat to a degree which would be unacceptable to you.

I have had 4 ltr with white girls too. Then you find that traditionally raised "unicorn" from Asia and forget the sidebar. Her parents taught her a traditional male/female dynamic. This means she plays the game better than you realize. Even minor cheating she will hide much better because the social backlash is stronger.

Yes by maximizing the side bar and minimizing hypergamy you can extend a happy ltr into the 5-10 year range. You have to realize it's still temporary.

If you assume her to be an angel you will get played.

[-] creditech 2 Points about a year ago

Screening, or what Pick Up Artists call the "Qualification" phase is of the utmost importance. Not just with respect to the opposite sex, but male friendships and business acquaintances too. From experience, I've found a reliable way to weed out mentally unstable girls is to screen for childhood abuse (emotional abandonment from father/mother, physical abuse, sexual abuse). If they have been a victim, then next question is to screen for their response as an adult. If the response is rooted in forgiveness, there is hope. If the response is rooted in bitterness, there's going to be problems and I move on ASAP (not even worth a ONS). If they have a bad relationship with their childhood father figure, more often than not, they will recreate their childhood drama as an adult--just to regain a sense of control over their childhood wounds. It's common that people recreate their childhood relationships to opposite sex authority figures in their adult relationships (or same sex in case of same sex relationships).

[-] JustReadBrah 2 Points about a year ago

This was an eye opener. Again! Good stuff TrenGod! After reading countless posts on TRP I started to feel like every woman can cheat, they're all waiting for you to make a wrong move so they can gut you. But no! There was this part of me saying, "Dude why are you starting to hate women? Why all of them? They're all not the same" I did not completely trust this voice in my head, but reading posts like these gives me hope that there are women out there who won't cheat if you keep your shit together. You can't expect a woman to cater your every need if your a fat/skinny piece of shit and are losing your focus in terms of your career.

"ABL - Always be learning" "AKI - Always keep improving" Are the acronyms I learned at work today and it makes sense. You can never be perfect, you can only be almost perfect, but that doesn't mean you can just quit out of something hard and blame the woman to be a cheater.

I am a lurker here, and will be for a while since I'm still in the process of becoming Alpha. So please do not hate on this comment, instead, tell me where I'm wrong, where I could improve.

[-] johnottaway 1 Point about a year ago

What about the idea that you probably are only drawn to women who have some teeth in them

You obviously want a woman who is at the top of the hierarchy and most if not all of the women who got there are only there because the are by and large alluring to all men

[-] bonusfruit 1 Point about a year ago

Sometimes trp can be the definitive source for female apologia

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[-] redpillthrowaway1214 1 Point about a year ago

I don't agree with the part about you FWB. Women always have a back up plan and after you cut her loose she exercised that option. Why would you care if you cut her loose?

[-] Soaring-Phoenix 1 Point about a year ago

In your experience, if a woman has very few red flags but has cheated (because in part of the male dropping the alpha ball), is it still possible to salvage a working relationship?

[-] TrenGod37 3 Points about a year ago

I wouldn’t risk that. If she cheated once she will cheat again

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[-] conflagratorX 1 Point about a year ago

stop blaming womens for your shitty screening process

Yeah sure stop blaming women, blame men. It is not her fault she cheated on you it is your fault you are not alpha enough. Your post fits feminist narrative damn well.

[-] TrenGod37 -1 Point about a year ago

Do you guys read any of the sidebar before you post shit. Or nothing at all?

[-] red_philosopher 4 Points about a year ago

Honestly, he's right. Why shouldn't we hold women who cheat accountable for their decisions? Or should we just blame ourselves because we didn't see everything up front?

No. The answer is two-fold. Men need to be better gatekeepers of their relationships. Women need to better gatekeepers of their vaginas. If a woman cheats, she chose to fuck another guy behind your back. Simple. Are you to blame because you didn't have the foresight of the Oracle at Delphi? Hell no.

If you let her stick around after that, that's a different story.

[-] GrowBear 1 Point about a year ago

What do you do about the in-between? It’s difficult to live in the mindset of complete confidence that she wouldn’t without evidence in your face proving otherwise while knowing full well that she is capable of it. How do you conduct yourself when your gut hints that it could have happened but you have no solid proof?

[-] red_philosopher 1 Point about a year ago

Investigate. It's our job to find out what the fuck is going on before making a decision. It's what rational, reasonable, men do. We don't make choices based on bullshit and feelings. That's the point.

[-] TrenGod37 -2 Point about a year ago

You only have control of yourself. It doesn’t matter what she does.

[-] red_philosopher 2 Points about a year ago

Agreed. A part of Boundaries is holding people accountable to your boundaries. If a woman cheats, you hold her accountable. You didn't do anything wrong, she did.

Could you have done better vetting? Sure. But the onus of responsibility is on her to not be a hoe.

[-] TrenGod37 1 Point about a year ago

Once again. You only have control over yourself. It doesn’t matter what she does. It’s called extreme ownership. If you’re a lazy piece of shit with no purpose who’s fault is it for her cheating? That’s up for debate. I personally like to own my shit so. I say me. Saying you didn’t do anything wrong isn’t owning your shit.

That’s like saying you don’t feed your dog for 3 days. You leave a steak on the counter and he eats it and you punish him for it.

Why? You didn’t feed him. And he’s a dog. Dogs are going to be dogs. Same goes for women

[-] red_philosopher 2 Points about a year ago

You are comparing apples to oranges here. It's AWALT because even if you have your shit together, and practice "extreme" ownership, you can't PROVE that it won't happen.

The dog thing is a poor example because I am responsible TO and FOR that animal and it's well-being. It has no such responsibility or duty to me. If I don't take care of it, it will do what it needs to do to survive and that's on me.

OTOH, in an LTR, each party has agency and is responsible TO the other. The woman has a responsibility TO you to not be a slut and defer to your judgement if she wants your exclusive attention. If she falters, you hold her accountable. Likewise, you also have a responsibility TO her to provide and be a leader in your relationship.

If you fail to consistently provide or lead, she should dump your bitch ass and find a man worthy of her womb. If she chooses to cheat on you instead? That's on her and you hold her accountable by kicking her cock slide of a vagina to the curb. If you are consistent and have your shit together and she chooses to cheat? That's on her, and you kick her to the curb.

I'm never going to be so much of a bitch that I won't hold a woman accountable for her shit. I own my shit, I'll be damned if I am going to own someone else's shit as well.

Edit: the Red-Pill here is that NOT holding women accountable for their bullshit is what got us to this hypergamic female fuck-fest "paradise" in the first place. We must own our shit, but we must ALSO make women own their shit as well.

[-] TrenGod37 0 Points about a year ago

Again all you say has nothing to do with. Being in control of only yourself so it doesn’t matter if she cheats. Leaves. Fucks your dad. Etc. same shit. It’s just you at the end of the day.

The dog is a perfect example. You just took it wrong. You wouldn’t be mad at a dog for being a dog so why be mad at a woman being a woman. And again. It don’t even matter. Bc its all on you at the end of the day

[-] red_philosopher 1 Point about a year ago

I'm not mad at a woman for being a woman. Though a woman isn't a dog, and a dog isn't a woman. I'm still going to hold a woman accountable for her behavior, we reap what we sow.

[-] Dark_Lord_A 1 Point about a year ago

I've noticed that these guys despise anything that doesn't match up with the group narrative. I don't know how you can consider yourself "alpha" and yet subscribe so heavily to group think like a common beta male. Great post mate.

[-] TrenGod37 2 Points about a year ago

As of recently this sub has been flooded with a bunch of wanna be alphas. Guys Who don’t read. Don’t take action and have no life experience with women.

All my references come from person experience and I been doing this for a very long time

That or it’s the text book red pill guys. Who only believe what they read but have no references of their own. And just recite shit they read like they’re reading it off a projector screen.

When you are part of a group and can’t be opened minded to new concepts, outliers or some exceptions to the rules. That’s when it becomes a cult

[-] Dark_Lord_A 2 Points about a year ago

Gotta agree on the don't read part. I recently found the sub, like 2 or 3 weeks ago. Some of these guys seem to have been here for years and have nothing to show for it, and they don't seem to even understand everything they read. They just blindly believe and never seem to understand nuance. Absolutism at it's most annoying

[-] TrenGod37 0 Points about a year ago

I’ve been here for a couple years now. Probably 6 or more. And it’s the truth.

[-] [deleted] 1 Point about a year ago

You are a total idiot with a complete lack of knowledge on the human condition and applied psychology.

[-] blackjackANDplates 1 Point about a year ago

If there truly is a first step in internalization then it has to come from educating yourself.

[-] mrHappyPotatoe 0 Points about a year ago

How would Clarkson say?... With this terrible conclusion where we didnt learn anything at all... thanks for reading and good bye.

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