So basically society has become one giant orgy and relationships are dead.

Downvote all you want.

But relationships are beginner game. Plating is intermediate game. Pure P&D is advanced game.

If you have a scarcity mentality coupled with a lack of options, you'll naturally see relationships as the most sensible way to secure sex and companionship by cheating the process and throwing your resources into the mix to entice her to be with you. One step up, if you're attractive to multiple women and have an abundance mentality, you'll be very slow to give into commitment from women. You'll fuck multiple women at once (a.k.a. plating), but you won't replace them unless you need to. Why? Because you haven't developed a repeatable blueprint to get pussy yet. So you need to keep them around to prevent long dry spells. You don't know if you get rid of one, when the next one will come by.

Advanced game is basically when you have already perfected a predictable, repeatable game plan to bang new girls all the time. This can be anything, e.g. Tinder game, living next to a bar/beach, working as a bartender/lifeguard/club promoter, etc. At this stage, you don't only have an abundance mentality -- you actually have abundance reality. You wouldn't bother with plating, because you're confident you can get a new girl to fuck every single week predictably and reliably. If you're in this position, even spinning plates will feel like too much work; you're much better off just putting that effort towards getting a new girl altogether. After all, fucking the same girl over and over again is boring, and it won't increase your n-count.

The truth is if we can fuck new girls all the time, we would. It's literally written into our DNA to do that. Guys spinning plates saying they prefer to fuck the same girls because of chemistry or whatever are hamstering the same way that relationship guys are hamstering about how they value connection over mindless quantity. It's not a true preference, but a preference of necessity.

My point is that we should all strive towards going beyond spinning plates. If you're all about self-improvement and want to take your game to the next level, getting good at getting one-time flings regularly should be your next goal.

TBH any girl worth having around past ONS will test you hard early, take a meet or two to fuck (aka waste of time if you’re running plates only) and will launch the “what are we” talk by 12 weeks max.

YMMV, but it’s not exactly rocket science. Higher-value women will pursue their natural agenda and try to lock you down. This is why low-SMV women are ideal starter plates: if the girl is worth anything and you aren’t looking for exclusivity, she will weed herself out.

Plates are many and disposable, basically come with a printed expiration date, and if you’re high-SMV will compete to be your exclusive. This is by design, but we control it. You don’t get into an LTR by accident.

I got attached to a fwb of 7 months. When we “broke” up, i decided to add her coworker on social media and she found out. She got angry and jealous and started texting me a bunch of stuff about how i’m an unfaithful person and how i’m not a good person. I told her she’s not my gf, i can do whatever i want and during our fwb relationship, i didn’t say a word when u were with other guys. Next thing you know, she says she has a bf. We went from holding hands even after the break up, to her finding out about the coworker to now she suddenly has a bf.

I decided to meet her for lunch after arguing with her on text and i saw that she suddenly changed her wallpaper to her and this new guy. I said what is that and she says its none of your business. She was in a rush to meet her bf that day apparently. It seemed like she was doing all these things to make me hurt because oh boy i was breathing hard and my heart was racing when i saw the wallpaper. I got attached and the feelings were driving me nuts. I have her blocked for now so i can move on.

I had one for 8 years, never had any feelings for her, she eventually met a guy a married him. Maybe not forever but you can keep them a long time...

Just bang them until the ‘where is this relationship going?’ talk or 3 months go by

Once attachment comes in your life, anxiety will come. Once anxiety comes, fear will come. Then madness is next step. When you get attached to somebody you are trying to identify yourself with that person in order to make your life happen. If you are a complete being, you don't need anybody or you shouldn't get attached to anyone. If you are attached to someone then you are even willing to conquer the whole word to avoid ditachment. Love is different than attachment. Our generation has misunderstood love with attachment. Love neither needs constant attention nor there are any expectations.

If you plate multiple women it wouldn’t be hard. I find it easy not to catch feelings having multiple women around.

I actually liked my LTR for 2 years while it lasted. I'd want companionship with a quality woman again. I'll be staying single for now

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oxytocin eventually sneaks up on all of us

One of the most solid facts ever posted on this sub. Ever. Well done /u/guhajin

It's important to note that the metaphor in Rollo's The Rational Male is about spinning plates, and not just viewing girls as plates in and of themselves.

You spin plates, multiple ones. One will fall and break, and you replace it with another. A second plate falls and breaks, and you replace that one.

If you only have one plate to spin (i.e. only one girl), that means that you are investing all your energy and focus on this one plate, which is why it will potentially not break since your eyes and hands are fully handling it. That is not serving the actual metaphor in the book, nor is it doing you any favors.

True story, alpha fuckboys gotta learn. But, you don't just get attached to any girl, you get attached to the HB11 (+1 for connection).

Really needed this post, man. Thank you. I kept a plate for 4 years and now that it's over and we're both seeing other people it feels kinda odd. I usually feel as a confident guy but I have not been able to handle this situation, you know, of her fucking other guys, even my own friends.

This. Started developing feelings for this one plate after cuddling and treating her as more than a plate. I caught myself and took it easy. I'm not bothered if the girls I see leave, it's my stupid bond pairing instincts that affect me more. Thanks to trp I've matured somewhat, so i can acknowledge my instincts and then decide my next course of action with them in mind.

If you meet her more than once a week, spend nights together and do girlfriend-boyfriend stuff - then yes, you probably get attached but if you just meet her once a week for 2-3 hours to fuck - then it's hard to get attached if you have other girls.

You can’t out game Mother Nature

If we can't out game mother nature we would be eating and fucking as we please and probably swinging from trees, you CAN understand it and manipulate it in your favour.

oxytocin eventually sneaks up on all of us

We are not slaves to our hormones. We can recognize and understand the effects they have on us and make a logical decision based on this knowledge

I don't care how red pilled you are, unless you're a sociopath, you will become somewhat attached to any girl you spend time with long term

Being red pilled is not about not getting attached, it's about understanding why you're getting attached and not being a slave to this feeling. It's about making a logical decision in spite of the attachment.

You can push past that relationship expiration date to a degree if you choose.

Not only are you likely to mess her up somewhat, the truth is, you're going to be unintentionally fucking with your own head.

There's no such thing as expiration dates, it goes as long as it goes. Thats it. Once again painting women as poor helpless little victims, a plate is the opposite of fucking with someones head. It's about being comletely honest that you're a short term option guy and allowing her to make her decision based off that. If your'e fucking with her head you're doing it wrong. And if your own head is being fucked with you're also doing it very wrong.

Very few girls want to just date forever

One of the only bits of truth in here, this is the primary reason a plate can't last forever, because eventually she'll want something more and you presenting yourself as a short term option guy wont be the one to provide this.

No matter how often you repeat that she’s “not your girlfriend,” after enough time goes by – subconsciously or consciously – “girlfriend” is exactly how you will BOTH likely begin to think of the relationship.

Once again doing it very wrong, plates implies multiple partners. This is just dating someone that progresses to LTR. Plating is where you keep it shallow. If you keep swimming out to sea sure you'll find depth. But if you constantly swim on the shoreline, you're simply swimming in shallow water. It doesn't stop your plate from swimming out in search of more depth, doesn't mean you have to swim out with her, and this is where your plate will usually break.

Plates do generally break, but not for the reasons you've presented in this post. This is a complete misinterpretation of how the plate dynamic works. Surprised with the amount of upvotes it has.

How can we accept this reality without any pain and anger?

excellent shit !! this was my case a few weeks ago. She was wanting more, and i was getting drawn in as well. i just held my ground, remained indifferent, showed respect to how she felt, but held my ground and poof - she's gone - no drama, no argument.

Mother nature is a bitch, despite TRP teachings. Best we can do is temper our hormonal sides and learn to work with our innate desire to bond with a woman.

Reported, I do hope mods will show you the way out

Who says the relationship needs to turn monogamous? I plan to turn all my good plates into LTRs.