I know I have a lot of flaws, and for the past decade I've worked really hard on improving to be a better woman.
I get really down on myself and I feel hopeless every time I feel like I'm not measuring up to what I need to be, generally in life, but also in my relationships as a partner. I try really hard to be perfect and follow what I "should" be doing in order to be a woman worth being loved. However I just constantly feel like I'm not good enough.
I have a strict diet, exercise regularly, try to practice kindness to others and be cheerful, try to admit my mistakes, try to stay humble but also confident, try to be patient, friendly, helpful, try to look beautiful everyday. And yet I still feel like I'm not worth being loved.
How can I get over this? These thoughts put me in this sad mood and I also realize it's not attractive, then it becomes cyclical.
Details: 1) I'm hard on myself because I feel like I'm not fun to be around, so I try really hard to make jokes or witty comebacks to be interesting, because I feel that I'm boring. Then I'm hard on myself when I'm too energetic and entertaining, because then I become a handful.
2) I'm hard on myself when I'm "too nice" because I feel like a doormat or irresponsible, and then I feel unattractive when I'm too demanding/insistent because I'm afraid I come off as a control freak.
3) I'm hard on myself when I'm too hardworking (at my job and in my own responsibilities) because I'm afraid I come off as not able to have fun. On the other hand I'm hard on myself when I'm relaxing and being lazy because I feel like it's unattractive to be lazy.
4) I'm worried I'm not attractive enough so I try to dress nicely and look cute every day, but then I'm afraid of coming off as high maintenance or too "posh"/girly because I take a lot of care into my clothing choices.
Etc etc.......
Basically, I never feel that I'm ____ enough. Only if I were pretty enough, skinny enough, nice enough, interesting enough, funny enough, smart enough, submissive enough...etc etc....then I'm worth it, then I'm worth being loved.
Single at the moment but had a great few chances with some really great alpha men this year, which all failed for various reasons (some reasons out of my control).
[deleted] 5y ago
Instead of putting yourself under such strict guidelines to be a certain way, think about what would actually make you *feel* happy. Do you like working hard at your job? Because that's a great thing. It means you're passionate and have a great work ethic. If work is stressing you out, there is almost definitely something you can scale back on. Maybe your diet is too restrictive, maybe you could rethink fitness (fewer session, try to be more active in every day life, different type of workout). Are you saying yes to things you don't want to do? Do you enjoy wearing the clothes you have? Don't fall into the trap of living for somebody else. You shouldn't worry about whether people will think you're a certain way. My guess is that, if you take this much care, you are probably not any of the things you think you are. My guess is that you are just getting overwhelmed and losing your way.
It's easy to be feminine and in your element when you make a joy of what you do. Don't worry as much about what others are going to think, because most of the time those opinions are half baked and based on first glance. If you like posh clothes, wear them-- be an incredibly kind, down to earth person who loves posh style. If you have to work hard in your career, do that and feel pride in your dedication. Let yourself relax, and your wit, your generosity, your freeness will come out on their own.
I think you should take a week or two to just go blank. Try to be totally neutral, don't go out of your way to be *anything*. Don't correct yourself. Just *be*. You need some time to recalibrate and shed some of the preoccupations you have. In the end, a lot of this does not matter. You aren't here to entertain anyone, or to be something to anybody. If you're in a relationship, or if you're using RPW to get ahead at work, that's really where things matter. There is a happy medium between control freak and being passive, and it is easy to get there when you know what your boundaries are and what you want. Make a list if you can, of things that have made you feel like a doormat lately. Of situations where you felt like you felt like you couldn't release control. See what those things actually are and if they make sense. See where they fall in terms of your actual boundaries and beliefs.
cuspids 5y ago
I think this is a really appropriate comment for me! Maybe instead of thinking "I should be a size 2 and then I'll be happy" or "I should say please and thank you to show I'm polite"...I should think "I love being fit and healthy and drinking raw vegetable juice and bouncing around" or "we should appreciate what others do for us so I should thank them." I think you're right on.
Again I think I just have to start accepting who I am, not be afraid to show it, and be proud of what I love to do and my quirky mannerisms.
This is really beautiful and right on point!
YES. I am really preoccupied with if I'm doing something wrong. In always worried - am I coming off immature? Am I coming off too serious? Do I look like I'm stupid? Do I seem pretentious? I'm even preoccupied that I'm TOO cute - because I know I am, a colleague even pointed it out that I should "treat my boss like a friend instead of being "subservient" to her so that she doesn't see me as a "cute baby" (I'm 29 and I still get the cute baby description).
Yes exactly, agreed.
I have been trying to recalibrate myself these days, speaking up, but not being too aggressive, because I hate being aggressive, but also really not caring when I don't need to care. Because sometimes I'm totally fine just "whatever" but I realize it can come off as passive. I see it as being easygoing and agreeable but I'm trying to find a better medium and not getting angry when either I feel I have to prove myself. I shouldn't have to prove myself to anyone...THAT'S where I don't care.
Thank you for the comment, overall it was really helpful.
[deleted] 5y ago
As I was reading your story I wondered if you had an emotionally abusive mother and it turns out I was right. I did too. I went no contact with my family two years ago. While my life has drastically improved (thanks RBN) I'm still working through some issues, specifically perfectionism.
No matter matter how much I try to improve I'm never really happy. My mind has a constant inner monologue thinking people are judging me. It doesn't help being a quiet introvert, so I always feel like I am awkward and people don't like me (even though many people tell me I'm fun to be around). Even though I appreciate RPW, it has led me to believe men don't approach me because I am unattractive (even though I take care of myself) or too old (turning 28 next month). It makes me not even want to put myself out there.
Even now, I'm putting myself down for ranting too much. I'm trying to do more things that I want to do, like taking a vacation or a spa day. Perfectionists feel like they don't deserve nice things. Treat yourself! You have obviously worked very hard. If you slip up and eat pizza, accept it. It's fine. Really. That's what I try to tell myself. Like another commenter said, you're less likely to slip up if you don't treat mistakes like a big deal.
Take comfort in knowing you aren't alone <3
LateralThinker13 5y ago
This is the kind of thing that therapy helps with. My wife had the same issue - she constantly moves the goal posts for her achievements as she pursues them, so nothing she does is ever good enough... for her. Even though she meets the requirements she set herself when starting out. Even though she meets or excels everybody around her.
Therapy. It helps.
Alternately, write down your goals/standards prior to pursuing them (and so you can't change them. Use ink or something). Validate that they're reasonable with somebody whose judgment you trust. And then achieve them. STICK TO THEM. When you achieve them (and I have no doubt you will), then celebrate. Yes, celebrate. You MUST reward yourself for meeting them. Only THEN are you allowed to set new goals.
Rinse-repeat.
eatavacado 5y ago
I actually went through a huge fall through of confidence and self respect earlier this month, just from multiple obstacles in life piling up at once, and became depressed. I acknowledged how I was feeling, which took me a few days because when I’m focused on my goal I don’t think to look in the mirror and see my expression.
After several days of freaking out over my inability to be good enough at taking care of myself, I had a repeated epiphany of “what we give our attention to, we grow”. And that’s really my key for pulling myself out of being hard on myself.I just think about what I want. With no opinion on me or what I’m doing, or did today. I just try to feel good about my desires, and feel inspired. And then the next day is new and I feel good about doing what is good for me, so I do more than what I did on the days where I would fret over not.
By fixating on what I’m doing wrong, I’m lowering my own confidence, which makes me not energized to do what I know I should be doing, and in a circle it goes on. But really, every morning can be looked at as a fresh start. The way we feel effects what we do. And the way we think affects our feelings. Just focus on what you want, and start to feel good about it. And then you’ll find yourself moving toward it instead of picking at yourself. I hope this little food for thought is as helpful for you as it was for me :)
cuspids 5y ago
I think this statement really resonates with me. I stress too much about my accomplishments (whether it's daily trivial accomplishments or career or long-term) or how well I did something or how many things I've done, and I realized I put too much of my self importance on these qualities instead of WHO I AM and HOW I AM. Which is really great because this aligns perfectly with RP theory.
Ihatemost 5y ago
I'm the same. We're perfectionists. Or rather, we have very high standards for ourselves. We demand the best of us, to the point where we put a lot of pressure in all aspects of our lives.
Be kind to yourself. That's what I tell myself. Be kind. I used to punish myself mentally if I didn't work on my studies all day. Now I tell myself ''it's okay. You were tired/not feeling it/whatever else. It happens. Take the time you need and get back to it when you're ready''
Or if I ate some chocolate or candy I'd punish myself for it again. Now it's ''it's alright. You had cravings for sweets. Now you got what you wanted so you can get back on track.''
Human psychology is fascinating in the sense that when we allow ourselves to make mistakes or to not be perfect all the time, we end up making less mistakes or performing better.
My advice to you would be that anytime you catch yourself speaking negatively about yourself, try to stop it and accept yourself for what you are instead. Really take a moment in your head to go through it. ''I felt boring in this conversation. It's alright. Not every conversation will be awesome. I didn't know what to say. It happens. Maybe next time I can talk to them about what I did this weekend, or that thing I'm looking forward to, etc.''
Life becomes so much easier when you're easy on yourself.
Hope this helped!
cuspids 5y ago
Thanks, I have been working on being more kind to myself, but it becomes more difficult when it involves another person. Like, if I was stressed one day and shoved food in my mouth in front of my (ex-)boyfriend, or threw a temper tantrum at him, then I feel like I "lost points" and I've ruined their impression of me.
I can forgive myself, but I think I'm more worried about OTHERS forgiving me, or their impression of me when I "mess up" or lose control. There's some underlying abandonment issue there as well, like I strongly feel if I don't act perfect, if I act unattractively in front of a man, then he'll leave me. It's similar to RP men's thought about holding frame - if he loses frame, she's unattracted.
As a teenager I was a former chubby girl that was bright but awkward and had an attitude, then I lost weight and worked hard to become attractive physically and emotionally, so I think I still have "fat ugly girl" mentality. I think that's where the sensitivity and ego comes from. I've always felt I needed to work EXTRA hard to be attractive because....I never was, not until the past few years when I learned the rules of attraction and what men want.
The second I feel like I've "lost frame," I feel my past fat ugly girl insecurities coming out, and I panic.
chiickab00m 5y ago
Read, “Daring Greatly “ by Rene Brown. I haven’t read the book, “the gift of imperfection “ but I heard that’s a good one too. I struggle with the same feeling and being gentler with yourself in terms of the way you speak to yourself is really important.
cuspids 5y ago
Thank you, I haven't heard of any of these but they sound useful.
SushiWizard 5y ago
I'm new to TRP but I recognize the same behaviors/wants in myself. Can I say your problem right now at this point seems to be that you don't do enough of what you want. It seems like you're constantly crafting a story/new goal for yourself so you'll never get there. I understand you want to be a better woman and person in general but maybe every once in a while you should follow your first instinct rather than doing what is correct. Wasn't this trait sort of covered in Fascinating Womanhood too? The ability to be childlike, I assume part of it is not caring so much about what the other person wants but succumbing to your personal whims. It's kinda boring, being entirely perfect. Be yourself :) the fact that you want to be better everyday and are working towards it is already proof you are good enough. Not everyone thinks or cares about being a better person.
cuspids 5y ago
Yes I think it's a self acceptance issue. I haven't accepted myself yet, because I always think I need to be MORE than what I already am...because in my head, being myself isn't good enough. I need to work on this.
Thank you, that's comforting to hear.
HarshaCity 5y ago
Maybe because the requirements you're trying to fulfill are people's requirements. This is impossible to do so you'll never be satisfied. Try to focus on what has been proven to work then patiently wait for results.
For example if people know that you participate in this forum you will come off as many horrible things, but doing that benefits you (hopefully) which is what's important.
Take being hardworking/lazy for another example. Try making your objective doing x amount of work and y amount of fun because you know that's the optimum setting for your health and well-being. This is an achievable and not so vague object and you should stop being exceedingly hard on yourself once you achieve it and feel satisfied. Unlike doing it to comply with what people think (to not come off to people as unfunny or lazy) because that's unachievable and - if you ask me - quite misleading.
If people don't like your healthy habits, they are not the people you want to impress.
cuspids 5y ago
I think it may have to do with lack of acceptance of myself, maybe, because I'm always trying to "figure out what men want" and feeling like I'm completely failing all the time, even though I've done a lot of self-improvement.
HarshaCity 5y ago
Basically what I was saying is that this is cause of your trouble. A better approach in my opinion is to figure out what's healthy for you and the right man's attraction will come as a by-product.
Don't you see any results? usually when one has good results they don't see the need to be hard on themselves any longer.
cuspids 5y ago
I think this is exactly what I need to aim for and not be AFRAID of being myself and letting a man come to me. I guess deep down I feel like I'm not worth it being loved, deep down I feel like I'm not attractive, and that's why I've stressed so much about "what men want."
I have had good results, but I still don't think it's enough, because I haven't found anyone yet. Again, I'm afraid deep down, that even after all that work, I'm still not worth it, or I've lost too much time on self-improvement because I'm 29 and feel like a lost cause.
HarshaCity 5y ago
You - I think - have a phobia of ending up alone. The fear is so strong that it makes you go all this way and it demands you go even further.
As many have pointed here, seeing a professional is the best thing you can do. But I'll recommend a few things that there's no harm in trying.
First, a lot of emotional instabilities can be fixed by a good diet, good sleep, lessening stress, letting go of toxic relationships/bad habits and exercising. Also health checkups can rule out hormonal imbalances and things of the sort. I recommend that you do an overall health checkup. I'm not saying that you have an illness but rather that being healthy improves the quality of life a lot.
Second, we fear a thing because we believe that it may have the power to harm us, so if we can take the power away from it, it will not be feared anymore. loneliness is powerful because it takes away the fulfillment of having a partner away, but if you achieve fulfillment from other sources you'll take some of that power away from loneliness and you'll fear it less. And so if the worst happens, you'll have x y and z going for you and you're going to be okay.
I hope I could help you and I wish you well.
cuspids 5y ago
I did just start seeing a therapist, and he's really helping by getting into the root of the problem (the reason I fear being alone and feeling like I need to earn my love relates to some things in childhood). He's helping me to learn how to be happy and secure AS AN ADULT because I never learned this as a child. It's a good change from the typical "self-care" "cognitive behavioral therapy" "changing your thoughts" because I'm understanding why I feel this way - some does have to do with my inner monologue but a deeper part lies in some childhood trauma.
Good point to think about, thank you for that.
I have been exercising more, and trying to JUST GO TO THE GYM automatically instead of hemming and hawing....and it really has helped. Even if I don't do a "full session"...just doing some squats, plyos, presses, getting moving....it does distract me for a bit, my body feels good, I look better.
Kaboomboomboomboom 5y ago
I suggest you actively remind yourself of what you accomplished. For every minute thinking you’re not good enough, spend a minute thinking about what you did well. That’s step one.
Step two is to break out of being a perfectionist all the time. You don’t need to do things to be loved. Love is not earned. You need to be your happy self. When going out, you’re giving a gift to the people who see your beauty. Be kind to yourself. Value yourself. Be happy. Remind yourself to be happy, tell yourself you’re happy, think of the little things. “I’m happy because I had coffee. I’m happy because I enjoy the sun.“ Work on your inner monologue.
cuspids 5y ago
That's a really beautiful way of saying it!
Right on the dot, I need to learn to speak to myself better in my own head.
cocodecoca 5y ago
That's interesting you comment that love is not earned. I wonder if OP felt like she had to earn her parents love?
Kaboomboomboomboom 5y ago
Likely they had high expectations, maybe didn’t tell her they loved her often enough (pure speculation, but happened to me).
I once heard that you need to praise your son for what he did and to praise your daughter for how she is. Unfortunately I was raised like a boy in this respect, and it’s difficult to work through old habits of trying to earn praise.
cuspids 5y ago
I did have to earn my love from my mother when I was a child. She was pretty emotionally abusive, and she put a lot of her self worth into my successes. If I failed, I made her look bad.
Kaboomboomboomboom 5y ago
I went through something similar. I haven’t been in therapy, mostly because I feel confident to work through it myself, but maybe you should try it out.
Also, a healthy comparison with other women might be helpful to you. I don’t mean that you should put other women down, but just observe and analyze. Some women don’t have a lot going for them but present their strengths in a way that make other people think how accomplished they are. Some people tell others how much they are into art, creating the impression that art (as in go to museum, actually know about stuff, compare styles, etc) is a serious hobby and occupation for them. Only at a later point does it become clear that they visited a museum twice and liked that tv show about art a lot. Point being: don’t compare yourself to what people say or show to the outside.
Look for happy people and try to find out how they do it. Talk about yourself (to yourself) in a flattering way. Not: I could have dressed better today. Instead: Look what a nice top I picked out. It was an awesome day out shopping when I bought it with the money I earn. It was good that I treated myself to it. And tomorrow I want to dress even nicer and I will wear that dress!
This technique may sound stupid but it can make your thoughts flow in a positive direction.
Nowadays people talk a lot about self improvement. Don’t be one of those people. Self improvement is fine but only to the point where you become a good version of you, not a totally different you. As we’re in RPW here, you want to be feminine. But there are different ways to go about that. If you, for example, tend to have back pains, don’t force yourself to wear heels all the time and then feel bad because of the pain. Buy the prettiest ballet style shoes, flat golden sandals, pink sneakers, whatever you want and combine that with pretty clothes.
And last but not least: Yoga helps me a lot. There is no way you will continue to worry about perceived problems while stretching in three different directions and focusing on your breath flow. Gift yourself this time.
cuspids 5y ago
I do compare myself to other women, but instead of criticizing them, I criticize myself instead. My inner voice tells me - "only if you had skin like hers,""hips like hers," "those same accomplishments," "eyes like hers," "voice like hers," "mannerisms like hers," "style like hers," "humor like hers" - THEN I would be good enough.
I'm struggling to find the good in myself, hence the stress on self-improvement. I compare myself to women that I envy - whether it's their beauty, personality, lifestyle, successes. I just never feel like WHAT I HAVE is good enough. I do observe and analyze and aim to be like them. Does that make sense?
Kaboomboomboomboom 5y ago
It does. Try to focus on what you have what they don’t, if that helps you. Like, sometimes I see a wonderful woman with a totally different body type and style and I admire the way she looks. In a second step, I explain to myself what I have that she doesn’t that makes me unique and beautiful.
TheLemming 5y ago
Try [Metta Meditation](http://www.mettainstitute.org/mettameditation.html) -- it's changed my life and I betcha it can change yours too :)