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- Hide Preview | 4 Comments | submitted about a year ago by InoffensivePolak [Post Locked]

I've just started reading through Plato's magnum opus, Republic. It's on virtually everyone's must read list. I've just read through the first tome (What is justice?). I'm reading it in English, combined with the big words and archaic tone, it's a little hard for me to understand. I'm reading online summaries and analyses concurrently. How does this book relate to the Alt-right? What were your thoughts on this book? What are the most important messages to take from each tome/chapter?

[-] InoffensivePolak 2 Points about a year ago

As a follow-up question, how would you compare the "ideology" and works of Plato vs his student, Aristotle. From a few select quotes, Aristotle seems to be /our philosopher/, with philia between citizens, "tolerance and apathy are the last virtues of a dying society", etc.

[-] crnislshr 2 Points about a year ago

Many wonder why Plato’s dialogues most often end in "nothing". Well, that is - they sort of argued, discussed the issue, built castles in the air, and did not come to real definite opinions. "It's a shame somehow."

I realized what was the matter when I read the books of modern psychologists, especially practitioners, such as Bern. Where lots of interesting things, except for one thing - how to solve the problem really. "Contact a specialist."

Plato is the same. His writings are, in essence, promotional items. Which demonstrate the "power and beauty of the method," but for specific answers - contact Akadem for "secret teaching" and give us some money.

Plato can and should be read as a magnificent ancient writer - and as a thinker who posed questions answered by Aristotle. As a training on working with concepts - yes, The Imaginarium of Dr. Plato is priceless. If you remove the literary and training merits, then Plato must be read only in order to understand what Aristotle argued with.

Aristotle is ALL, it is the absolute basis of any thought that deserves some attention and respect.

[-] InoffensivePolak 2 Points about a year ago

What is the quintessential book by Aristotle? Reading Republic made by feel stupid because I didn't "get it". Any other philosophers I should be aware of (except Evola, who I'm reading as well).

[-] crnislshr 1 Point about a year ago

Republic is not the easiest work of Plato, try Sophist and Apology of Socrates, for example.

As for Aristotle, try to start with Nicomachean Ethics and Politics. Evola is not bad, most of time he's like "Aristotle for dummies." But Evola is rather, hm, unbalanced about Christianity.

Thus, I'd recommend to read G.K. Chesterton, to better grasp the usefulness of it, start with

http://www.gkc.org.uk/gkc/books/heretics/ch5.html

And surely Nietzsche, start with "On the Uses and Disadvantages of History for Life."