My SMV is high enough to pull girls but I'm just so tired of dating and the general bullshit that comes along with it. I'm 21 years old and started visiting prostitutes at the age of 19. I think I have banged 25-30 hookers so far. I have plates but I get more satisfaction from banging hookers.
I live in Belgium and it's legal here. Where I live are 3 hooker districts. Two of them are only a 20 min drive away. The fact that I can take my car, drive 20 minutes and bang a beautiful woman for 40 euros and have no drama afterwards makes this so enjoyable.
The girls you see there are models.. Literally 10/10 girls. You can choose girls with amazing asses, big tits, black/white/asian, anything you want, you can have it there. There are like 100+ windows in each district. I'd say I bang 2 hookers a month, sometimes more, it costs me like 100 euros a month to bang two-three models, which is a good deal in my eyes.
I love this lifestyle. Fridays and saturdays are for my boys and on sundays I just go bang a hooker and then go on with my week. But is this a healthy lifestyle? I always told myself I don't want kids and enjoy life. Bang a lot of women, save money for trips with friends and a nice car/house. But the abundance mentality that this gave me is not good. I no longer feel the need to chase women. Sometimes I even prefer paying for sex, rather than getting a free hookup with one of my plates. Ofcourse the STD factor plays a role too, I always do everything safe though and get tested every 3 months.
Do more guys here visit prostitutes? Or who have developed a lifestyle like me? How has it affected your life? Did you stop doing it? I feel like I want to enjoy life as much as possible before I get into a serious LTR around the age of 25-30. Advice?
6ThornmailRammus 5y ago
Prostitutes aren't evil to do but they're like porn: no work, all dopamine. If you want an LTR in the next 5-10 years it would also be a good idea to get back out there and practice. You can't go from disconnected hooker sex to an LTR and expect to be practiced enough to hold frame
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6ThornmailRammus 5y ago
A dog eating, filthy Chinaman could afford a decent hooker if he didn't eat for a day
room_303 5y ago
Yeah but women waste your time and money- Crank one out for 5 minutes and get on with the other 16 hours of your day, no money or time lost.
returnofthemackX 5y ago
You are saying you have no control over your time nor money when with girls. That is a problem within yourself, not with girls.
room_303 5y ago
Women make you spend more money doing shit, along with that is time.
returnofthemackX 5y ago
“Women make you (...)”
Only when you don’t control your own actions can women, or anyone, make you do things.
YoungManHHF 5y ago
ReturnOfThePimp
_Icarus_Reborn_ 5y ago
I'm new around here, but I'd point you for that. (or can mods only do that?)
Short, concise and to the point. TRP distilled.
room_303 5y ago
Made, by proxy of the construct of modern game, to fuck women - you've gotta spend money, and time.
If i crank one out I am no longer motivated to take a bus to the meat farm to shop for some quality whore. Thus saving me money and time.
returnofthemackX 5y ago
The higher SMV you have, the less money and time you have to spend to get sex.
For example: Chad swipes right a girl on tinder, and meets for a netflix and chill. Time and money cost are very low.
When you tell me that the time and money you have to spend to get sex from girls is wasted, tells me you invest more (time and money) into it than the value (sex) you get out of it. You are overpaying.
This to me implies you are low SMV and need to work on that, instead of jerking off.
room_303 5y ago
You are reading too much into it.
clausternn 5y ago
To be fair to him, the time cost to improving your SMV is immense in and of itself.
blacwidonsfw 5y ago
Stop trying to get to the destination and enjoy the journey my friend
clausternn 5y ago
There's nothing enjoyable about the journey. If there was, every man would be an alpha with chiseled abs and great social skills. The journey is a long boring grind and the only men that undertake it are the ones who are willing to put in the effort and sacrifice in order to later reap the rewards of a better life. The men who are willing to put in the work rather than sitting on the couch passively waiting for life to go by.
fuckrbrasilmods 5y ago
Nothing wrong with that. I think prostitution is a generally pleasant, uncomplicated, bang for you buck deal.
polymath808 5y ago
Literally
WolfofAllStreetz 5y ago
I see no issues with this, it's your life do whatever you want. Just be safe.
Smarter than these idiots getting into LTR at 19.
CalvinRichland 5y ago
Only 40 euros for sex? No shit?
ronalddrump69 5y ago
Usually they ask 50 euros for 15 minutes, it's like the standard amount for the uglier guys. If you're goodlooking and flirt a bit with them it's easy to negotiate. I've had a lot of girls who agreed to have sex for 40 euros instead of 50 and let me fuck them for 25 minutes instead of 15. So yeah.. basically 40 euros for 20-25 min if you're goodlooking.
CalvinRichland 5y ago
Do they have a 2 minute rate? Asking for a friend
ronalddrump69 5y ago
Hahaha, made me crack up. Sadly it doesn't work that way, buddy. Least they have is 15 minutes!
MoneroMoonbase 5y ago
Thanks, you answered my question. 100 nanoseconds is a no go.
HumanSockPuppet 5y ago
As long as your pursuit of anything (including sex) does not interfere with your life or the pursuit of your other goals, then it isn't a problem.
There's nothing unhealthy about the freedom to pay the real market price for sex.
Auvergnat 5y ago
This creates an interesting baseline.
Add up the time you spend on tinder, gaming, texting, dating. Divide by the number of lays you get from it. This is your average time spent to get one lay. Now think that this amount of time is worth about 40 euros (~$45), at least in Belgium, without considering your expenses. How happy are you with that number? How does this compare to your rate at work?
Casanova-Quinn 5y ago
Agreed. I think prostitution is actually a useful tool for most men. It allows men to practice and gain sexual experience in an easy manner. And after having sex with attractive hookers, it will help reduce one's nerves around regular women.
TheTrenTrannyTrain 5y ago
Lived in Asia for a few years, and prostitution is not illegal. You can walk around the red light district and find brothels after brothels, and there are various types. Some are independent and will run between $40-$80 USD for a half hour session, others are buffet style meaning you pay a set rate, around $55 USD for 1 girl for 45-50 minutes and you can have as much sex as you like. There are also massage parlors, saunas, and foot massage with happy endings. Of course there are high end stuffs that will run you upward of $300-500 USD but they're model tiers from Russia or Eastern Europe.
I enjoyed my visits as it does help put of the fire, so to speak, when I didn't have any plates spinning. Now that I have a few, I enjoy their company more so than visiting the brothels, just because I get to do a little bit of cuddling and talking afterward.
Did it ruin me? I don't believe so, it just made me aware that there's always a price for a pussy.
manwhoknowshow2feel 5y ago
In Asia, theyre pretty low quality imo, the ones that are high quality are usually about 70-100 dollars
rubydachurro 5y ago
Is the stigma of seeing whores abundant there or do people not care as much?
ronalddrump69 5y ago
People don't care as much here.
Nergaal 5y ago
Might be useful to not advertise brothel visits too much, jic
rubydachurro 5y ago
Interesting. I’ve always thought that if brothels were legal in the U.S. people would run into each other all the time. People would probably see their priest or pastor at one. Maybe a cousin or an in-law at one point. An old friend you haven’t seen in forever.
aShiftyLad 5y ago
Eskimo bro bonding.
ronalddrump69 5y ago
Perosnally I haven't seen anyone here yet that I knew in real life. I heard stories about men running into their father though, imagine that..
dutchgguy 5y ago
I live in Belgium too, and I would say it's good to have and embrace the option (as you said; no drama), but I'm still worried about stds and I think it should only be a part of a larger transition in lifestyle (you learn a trick or two there, increase confidence, get around the stigma by going there, ease of mind). I also was able to get a discount because of my looks haha.
ronalddrump69 5y ago
Haha really? I usually go to Schipperskwartier. Been to the Aarschotstraat in Brussels once but doesn't feel safe there..
BlackMarmoset 5y ago
On one hand I envy you, for you have access to easy and "free" sex. On the other hand I think it would make me lazy.
I would lose interest in gaming girls, get rusty and lose touch in bed, as a prostitute wouldn't care how good you are.
That's said, as long as you're happy and aware, it's a life choice.
ronalddrump69 5y ago
I agree, it does make me lazy. But it helps me too. A lot of men are thirsty for girls and put up with their bullshit in order to get sex. Having access to free sex with a much better looking girl creates abundance mentality.
I pull plenty of girls at bars, my game is still good. A lot of guys flirt with girls, the woman ends up wasting the guys time and the guy asks himself what he did wrong. When a girl wastes my time, I can feel annoyed and think to myself, why does this girl play games? Or I can just drive 20 minutes, fuck a model looking like girl and move on with my life and forget about the girl.
I've had times where a girl flaked on a date, 1 hour before the date. Not gonna lie, they always gave me bullshit excuses. I just reply with 'Ok, no problem' and bang a hooker. Then delete their number. They end up texting me 1-2 weeks later but I just ignore their messages.
So yeah.. it does make me lazy but has a lot of benefits as well.
Mr_Badass 5y ago
I envy you. Here in America we have to put in work to get pussy.
steggun_cinargo 5y ago
Move to Nevada lol
TehJimmyy 5y ago
MURICA!
DonaldBaelish 5y ago
This is America.
ronalddrump69 5y ago
If I lived there I probably wouldn't be addicted to them now.. sigh.
Mr_Badass 5y ago
Just make sure you're improving your life. Don't get complecent just because pussy is easy to get.
ArthurTheAstronaut 5y ago
Nope. Just porn.
CalmPassenger 5y ago
It'd probably be a lot healthier to bang hookers with whatever features you like for all the guys here addicted to searching online for videos with the features they like
clausternn 5y ago
At the very least it wouldn't give you erectile dysfunction like porn does.
bobaisdope 5y ago
I thought that getting laid in America was easy?
clausternn 5y ago
Lol nope
WeddingCrasher91 5y ago
I wish someone can confirm that. A friend of mine who's barely attractive stayed like 6 years in the states for studies. When he came back he showed pics that he took of all his plates' tits and asses. They where by the dozens.
clausternn 5y ago
I feel like the people commenting these things have hot accents or were traveling.
I can tell you that, as a local who knows other locals, the dating life in a large suburb of a very large city was miserable. Absolutely miserable. Meanwhile, if you're a stereotypical 6'1" blond white American, there are many countries on Earth that if you travel to you'll be a god among men. It's just silly.
MessianicJuice 5y ago
Can confirm. Went to Thailand as a mediocre looking skinny ginger with hit or miss fashion sense and meh social skills, tons of Thai women still wanted to fuck me.
maintaining_frame 5y ago
In Thailand, you can get a hottie for $50-100 for two hours, and you can check their customer service rating, which tends to be quite accurate. And there's an app for that. Google Smooci. No drama.
crespo_modesto 5y ago
Interesting. Why yes, there's an app for that haha.
eccentricrealist 5y ago
I've been thinking about living in Belgium for a while anyways, this is just another pro
Bing_Bang_Bam 5y ago
Yeah, I think I know where I may start my next Euro vacation now... Which city is this? Neighborhood?
ronalddrump69 5y ago
City: Antwerp
Neighborhood: Schipperskwartier
City: Brussels
Neighborhood: Aarschotstraat/Brussels Nord ( This one is dangerous tho, a lot of crimintality)
clausternn 5y ago
As someone who lives in Brazil, the idea of someone calling a place in Brussels dangerous is hilarious.
ronalddrump69 5y ago
Every country has it's dangerous places, not only Brazil, even though I agree that it's more dangerous there. If you walk around in Brussels North at 1 am, near the hooker district you won't feel safe at all. I'm not racist but there's a crapload of illegal people in Brussels. If they see you checking out hookers, they will know you have money and rob/stab you. That's why I said it's a dangerous place. The place is full of groups of black/arab/syrian/... people. It is definitely a dangerous place. That's why I tell them.
ThatKidinAfrica 5y ago
Fellow brothel-goer currently residing in Japan here. I don't know about others but I fucking love the fact that I can pay the same amount of money that I would usually pay on dates and get a gorgeous girl for 50 bucks without having to deal with Shit-tests, After-sex drama and having conversations I don't care about. It does make you lazy in the approach game but why even bother with other women when I can get the same thing I wanted in the first place for more or less the same price without the bullshit. And no, I'm not ugly. I'm a 6'4 tall fairly handsome male that attends the gym daily, I have no problem with gaming girls but this is personally for me just a much better convenient alternative.
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abudun79 5y ago
So, u/samsalp777, how much did you have to pay to fuck without protection? I guess the crying that you might have caught STD, and telling reddit about it, came free?
ArthurTheAstronaut 5y ago
lmfao. What a gem of a statement to end that paragraph.
11-Eleven-11 5y ago
"Just gonna stroll down to the hot gf store and make my hot gf investment to save money on sex. No biggie."
ArthurTheAstronaut 5y ago
.....Isn't that where everyone gets their hot gf?
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Also thought the same way. Is it wrong ?
wobbleelbbow 5y ago
Plan plan plan
AmazonAlphaMale 5y ago
Where do you get your hookers
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We’re tight AF on Facebook messenger
HJGamer 5y ago
That’s a very unsafe place to do illegal activity though. You should try Wickr. Great for weed too.
riggedved 5y ago
Hookers are Ok, but then:
you can’t have a nice long kiss with them You can’t eat them out. (Yuck.) They won’t blow you without a condom (some do though).
Tbh, for me personally, sex with condom is like masturbation. So although I do use hookers once in a blue moon, I would prefer sex with a plate or LTR. Let me know your thoughts on this.
MisterRoid 5y ago
Agreed. Using condoms is lame. Main reason I'm not interested in hookers. Doesn't matter if she's a 10/10 if I can't feel shit anyways.
ronalddrump69 5y ago
Personally I never eat girls out, except if it's my LTR. I don't care that much about kissing. The condom thing is the only struggle IMO. I too hate condoms. I even fuck my plates with condoms, blowjob without though. Having a clean plate, that you can do everything with, without condom is way better than paying for sex, I agree.
I'm kinda paranoid when it comes to raw fucking girls, even if they're plates. I had a friend who did this with a girl but she was fucking other guys too and gave him 3 STD's. That's why I ALWAYS fuck with condoms. So fucking a plate or a hooker, is almost the same for me. Personally I love women with big tits, I love fake D cups. Plates at this age can't give me that yet. Banging a 24 year old woman with D cups, who knows how to work it, makes you feel like a pornstar.
I enjoy fucking plates but banging hookers is more about the thrill and adrenaline rush.
RedHoodhandles 5y ago
3 STD's..? All together at once or over the course of sticking your dick in nasty pussy? I could bare 1 but after the 2nd STD I'd break that plate for good..
ronalddrump69 5y ago
3 STD's. He only had sex with her, like 60 times over the course of 4 months. After he got tested he knew it was her since he only had sex with her. He still bangs her when he's drunk and with a condom. I told him to stop seeing her but when he's drunk it happens I guess..
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ronalddrump69 5y ago
Yeah, you can. Most girls behind the windows are friends. I've had girls offer me threesomes but I always rejected it. 100 Euros for 15 minute threesome is a bit of a waste. Two girls at the same time sounds great but I'd only do it for a 1hour session. I think it's possible though but would cost you 300-400 euros for 1 hour.
123undeuxtrois123 5y ago
Yes in Thailand but I am not sure about Belgium.
mysteryspoN 5y ago
Do prostitutes in Belgium allow for anal? Or like threesomes or is that only in certain areas
ronalddrump69 5y ago
A lot of them allow anal if you pay extra, not all of them though. Threesomes are certainly possible too. A lot of stuff is possible if you have enough money, even BDSM.
mysteryspoN 5y ago
Oh wow.
oytrp 5y ago
No. Other than busting a nut, visiting a prostitute provides no value to you.
If you say you want a LTR in the future, you need to still be practicing your game, passing shit tests and making yourself as attractive as possible (beyond just your looks).
Don't get me wrong. Banging hookers has it's place, but to drop gaming women altogether will have a negative impact in the long run.
HannibalBacara 5y ago
Prostitution, like any vice is okay in moderation.
On one hand I'm jealous because living in America you have to deal with the possibility that your life could get fucked up if you try to cheap out on some backpage hoe and get caught in a sting operation. But the alternative is pay 200 bucks for an escort service.
But I think not having access to easy cheap sex pushes you to go out and work on your game more.
I'm torn. Sometimes when I'm in a 3-4 week dry spell I just want to be able to pay 50-60 bucks and fuck some HB9 with no effort involved..
atticusfinch1973 5y ago
I’m actually curious as to what only 15 minutes is like? My sessions have always been an hour and involve multiple positions and usually two orgasms (from me). Just a quick makeout session, one position and boom and you’re out?
CalmPassenger 5y ago
Dam how do you cum twice in one hour? I'm a young guy and I usually need at least 24 hours between orgasms
ronalddrump69 5y ago
I barely fap. The first orgasm is usually within 15 minutes. Then wait 15 minutes an start fucking again for 20-30 minutes and get the second one.
wobbleelbbow 5y ago
Less porn and fap less. You can be ready in 5 minutes after orgasms. Though usually I take 15-20
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CalmPassenger 5y ago
I've never came in a pussy before, how can you do that? Don't you worry about pregnancy?
ronalddrump69 5y ago
You get inside, get undressed, wash your dick while she waits on the bed naked. First I lay next to her. She puts the condom in her mouth and starts sucking while putting it on. Then like 5 minutes a good blowjob while playing with her pussy/boobs. After that two/three positions, each like 3 minutes, cum, clean it up and leave. Usually they chat a bit while getting dressed.
I've had an one hour session once with two orgasms and it was definitely more fun. You have more time and you can actually make out with the girl. But for me personally.. I'd rather bang 4 chicks for 160 euros and less time than one chick for 160. If I was rich I'd take one hour sessions though.
RadioPimp 5y ago
You kiss the hooker? Gross. Lol.
this_weeks_account2 5y ago
This made me laugh out loud.
Pretty Woman rules haven’t made it to Belgium yet.
ronalddrump69 5y ago
I've kissed one hooker. It was a girl my age, paid for 30 minutes and I was her last client, it was getting late. She told me I could stay and we talked about some stuff and connected well. I was planning on leaving and she told me I could stay for the night. So I stay in bed, we put on a movie and she started kissing me. I could tell she was into me, so I used this to my advantage and had sex all night long with her.
At first I was grossed out, kissing a girl on the lips who had sucked so many dicks. It's still a bit disgusting to think about it, but it just happened before realizing. Normally, I make it a habit, not to kiss hookers on the mouth or go down on them. Some try but I always decline. I'm the one paying so I shouldn't be the one pleasuring them. Some guys pay extra to kiss or go down on them though. It's called a girlfriend experience.
Xoramung 5y ago
At least you know what you're kissing, as opposed to your "virgin" gf/plate who neeeeeeeeevvvvvvveeeeerrrr does that she swears!
MisterRoid 5y ago
Don't you think it sucks to wear a condom even during a blowjob? Last time I was at a massage parlor and was offered extra, I demanded my money back when the girl tried to put a condom on my dick for the BJ and wouldn't suck it raw. I would rather jerk off than do anything with a condom involved.
ronalddrump69 5y ago
Yeah, getting a blowjob without a condom feels way better. But I don't go to hookers for a blowjob. It's just to get my dick hard and move on to sex. But some hookers though.. you'd be surprised how good it feels, even with a condom on. They can suck real good. Without a blowjob is 100 times better though.
crespo_modesto 5y ago
Is it not clean to begin with? or am I missing something?
ronalddrump69 5y ago
Nah, it's standard procedure. Everyone has to do it.
calvicius 5y ago
In legal borders in Europe is the first thing you have to do. There is a sink in the bedroom, usually the girl assists while you wash it or she wash it herself.
crespo_modesto 5y ago
Wow that's interesting. Does water actually do anything? Or you use some kind of "soap"? Is it primarily for preventing UTI sort of thing?
calvicius 5y ago
Yep, with soap. It's for make it as clean as possible and make the girl sure about this, although it will wear a condom a few moments later. It's like, you know, when you are going to have sex with a girl and she offers you one of her condoms, but you tell her "no thanks, I am gonna use mine".
crespo_modesto 5y ago
What's the last part? We talking a plot of an unwanted child? Or bring sneaky sneaky no glove maximum vajay hug?
Ooh sorry haha good to know
I suffer from this plague of social awkwardness and uncertainty in myself sucks
calvicius 5y ago
I probably used the worst example, or badly explained myself. The meaning of what I wrote was "the want to be 100% sure and things go the way they want". But forget it, it's an unnecessary thing.
crespo_modesto 5y ago
Ha no prob man. I get the main idea. I guess that is normally how you clean yourself just seemed odd reading it at first.
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Bruchibre 5y ago
Why don’t you move to Asia then? You can drawn in your yellow fever.
ronalddrump69 5y ago
To be honest, nope, barely. There are a lot of massage houses ran by asian girls though. Usually you can fuck them during these sessions. But yeah, if you want asian girls, go to Thailand, even though it's a bit far.
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Ninokun 5y ago
If u can afford it there is nothing more redpill u could do.dont Think Trump doesnt pay for it. it only becomes a loser move if u have to scrape together ur last pennies to afford female contact.
assholeofthesky 5y ago
My SMV is high enough ...Nah it's not mate.
If it was, you wouldn't be willingly paying for pussy. work on yourself mate
wobbleelbbow 5y ago
Some people drink water, some people drink only Mountain Dew... I don't see a problem with that.
DevilMayCry 5y ago
why pay for something you can get for free?
FrameKontrol 5y ago
No such thing as free pussy.
AmazonAlphaMale 5y ago
Time is money friend
TheReformist94 5y ago
There is pussy for free, but you have to be chad. Chad just has a chat for 10min, enjoys the validation chatting knowing sex is on the cards, and bang. Done.
DevilMayCry 5y ago
Pussy is like finding parking downtown. You can pay for it or you can put a little effort in and get it for free.
GrapeCulture69 5y ago
Then regret is when ur car gets broken into... Kidding though, I prefer to work for it too. That's just my ego controlling me though.
lekkiplayboy 5y ago
Go to Lagos Nigeria, you’ll get hot bitches for $80 the whole night and next morning.
ronalddrump69 5y ago
lekkiplayboy 5y ago
Plus if you get lucky you’ll get one to have a nice conversation with. She can become a plate. Fuck other guys for bucks, Give it up to you for free. Just be nice to her and don’t judge. Just act like her job is just another job ????.
RadioPimp 5y ago
Some of these women are coerced into being a prostitute. Modern day slavery..
GrapeCulture69 5y ago
Some corporations sell you products with materials gathered from 3rd world slavery/indentured servitude. We should do our best to avoid them, but not abandon all business engagement on the concern of potential abuse.
Casd12 5y ago
Kinky.