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Women are sexual as fuck. They want their legs spread. You just need to play the right game and you’ve got it.

Women are innately hypergamous therefor you will have a lot more luck with women if your SMV appears higher than theirs.

Women operate in a covert manner. They play off sensing, feeling and intuition. Men however are overt. We tell it how it is. Men operate on the lines Women operate between the lines

Flirting is connecting We can chat all day with strangers and have small talk and zero connection but as soon as you have the same conversation with someone and you stare into their eyes (in a non creepy way) and you feel the energy and the tension - that’s flirting and that’s connecting and that’s the type of in between the lines shit I’m talking about.

Then there’s subtle touching at the end of a laugh, different gestures etc etc. all of this stuff appears to be a normal situation to anyone around you but to you and the women it is a connection.

The best way to get laid is to never ever project that you are thirsty or want to get laid. Instead you let the women play into your frame. You flirt, you hold frame, you play it in a way that it’s her idea that she wants to fuck you. And you do this by building tension using flirting and covert body language etc.

Am I on the right path?

Am I on the right path so far?

[-] mrpoopistan 79 Points about a week ago

> Women are sexual as fuck.

Correct. They literally pay money to read stories about being raped by pirates, doctors, and (apparently) even T-Rexes. (Of course it would be the T-Rex . . . he has status, duh.) There's a whole industry built on this premise.

> You just need to play the right game and you’ve got it.

I'll disagree a wee bit. This makes it sound like paint-by-numbers.

See the next item for mt explanation . . .

> Women are innately hypergamous therefor you will have a lot more luck with women if your SMV appears higher than theirs.

Only to a point. You can cross a line where you out-value a chick to the point she's scared she'll be a pump-and-dump. Depending on your established status and her values and present level of downright horniness, you might still get a ONS out of this.
Being about +1.5 to +2 in SMV vs her is the optimal spot. Once you get beyond that, the chances she won't buy in to your frame go up because she (may) be afraid of being used.

Bear in mind, a lot of a woman's tepidness in this condition is about being observed putting out. If she thinks she won't get caught (the classic vacation sex scenario) or won't be judged (kink and lifestyle clubs), then it's game on if she even remotely likes you.

> Women operate in a covert manner.

The really painful part, tho, is that women think a lot of their behavior is overt.

The classic case is women who think that parking themselves near a guy -- in girl game, any sustained proximity is considered a direct approach -- is an overt attempt.

> [In regards to all the connection stuff]

The big thing with women is that they're fearful they may have misread a guy. A lot of the connection stuff is a form of redundancy checking. They're just verifying the integrity of their initial assessments.

> The best way to get laid is to never ever project that you are thirsty or want to get laid.

To a point. If you overplay it, women can get weird really fast.

I tend to think it's hilarious when women freak out over not getting enough attention, so this is really my wheelhouse and has been since pre-TRP days. Every woman is different. Some will just nope out, and that's that. Some can just get stuck in a loop and keep dancing for your attention (the part I enjoy! hehe).

> You flirt, you hold frame

That's the tricky balancing act. From experience, holding frame is farm more important. Flirting is nice, but some women will power right past a lack of flirting if they're really digging everything else about you.

> you play it in a way that it’s her idea that she wants to fuck you

The cultural default assumption is so heavily tilted toward the idea that every guy wants to fuck her that it takes serious rejection to break a woman out of this assumption.

It just happens to be the way I roll game, but I like to get the woman to the point that she's so invested in getting and holding my attention that it becomes a case where she would hate to have gone to all that effort and not fuck me. Most of that is my own pathology, because I get off on it.

In my experience, women assign guys into three groups:

1) "I wouldn't fuck him if the last dildo on Earth broke six weeks ago."

2) "Mmmmmm. Could happen. Let's see what he's got."

3) "That boy can get it." (Think of the guy being described in every Salt-n-Pepa song.)

Getting into the #3 category is usually about hitting a particular form of objectification just right. For example, I crush with women who get damp for guys who have physical presence. The standard chick who hits on me will ask if I'm a bouncer, ex-military, etc. As an added bonus, I win chicks who get wet for deep voices once I speak.

The important thing for me to keep in mind is that I'm never going to be a #3 for chicks that like leaner dudes (they exist) or who are a bit tepid around intimidating men.

> Am I on the right path?

I'd say in your in the right neighborhood. A few of your comments seem a little paint-by-numbers for my taste.

The biggest thing I'm seeing that you need to incorporate is true outcome independence. Right now, it reads like you think this is like punching in the Konami code in a video game. It's not.

Sometimes, you're just not going to be what she's looking for. Even with the right chick, you might not be it unless you catch her on her cycle. The big thing is, control your frame and stay outcome independent.

[-] omega_dawg93 19 Points about a week ago

listen to this guy.

and i'll add one important thing from rollo that you missed. YOU need to be (and remain) your mental point of origin. never forget that.

and never forget that women operate from a position of sexual abundance. if you act thirsty, it turns them off; they can't comprehend how any man of value struggles to get sex because it's so easy for them to get it.

iow, act like you've been there... act like you get pussy on command.

[-] mrpoopistan 11 Points about a week ago

> YOU need to be (and remain) your mental point of origin. never forget that.

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Agreed. This is the bedrock of maintaining frame and being outcome independent. If your frame is just you dancing around attempts to dislodge your ego, you're doomed. It has to be anchored, and the anchor point has to be in you.

If you have an external locus of control, figure out why that is and friggin remedy it.

[-] WarBoruma 2 Points about a week ago

Can I have you elaborate to what you mean by "mental point of origin"?

[-] omega_dawg93 6 Points about a week ago

your decisions start with your best interest in mind. she needs to fit into your life...a life that is going in the direction you've outlined and won't change.

in street lingo... "you are the prize. she needs to feel lucky to get even a minute of your time."

[-] totoro_make 9 Points about a week ago

mrpoopistan - Your last paragraph is on the money.

This guy fucks

[-] mrpoopistan 4 Points about a week ago

Have an upvote for a Silicon Valley reference.

[-] MattyAnon 5 Points about a week ago

The really painful part, tho, is that women think a lot of their behavior is overt.

They do, but it's provably not.

"But I giggled and looked at him for 2 seconds, so I've laid all my cards on the table and now it's up to him, I HAVE MADE MYSELF CLEAR".

Follow this up with "ah.. ok... so every time a girl giggles and looks at me for 2 seconds, that means she wants to fuck me?" / "Ah.. well... no... not everytime" / "Ok... so with you personally... a giggle and a two second stare means you wanna fuck then?" / "Well, no not always... sometimes we do that because we're just flirting but don't want anything" / "Ok... so how is he supposed to know which it is???" / "Um... he's supposed to just know, OK!"

The conclusion is this: women avoid all responsibility while trying to make themselves look good, and they do this by pushing all responsibility for communication and understanding her ambiguous and unclear communication onto the man.

Which is why they say:

  • He should just get it
  • He should just know what I want
  • An attractive man should ...
  • I don't have to do X, I'm the girl
  • I'm just flirting, he should know that!
  • I want more, he should know that!

The list goes on.

[-] mrpoopistan 3 Points about a week ago

That's why I always push guys to look at the one signal that can be easily quantified: how much time does she spend in or near your personal space?

[-] mmishu 1 Point about a week ago

Correct. They literally pay money to read stories about being raped by pirates, doctors, and (apparently) even T-Rexes. (Of course it would be the T-Rex . . . he has status, duh.) There's a whole industry built on this premise.

what where is this from? what stories?

genuine question, no need to be downvoted

[-] nomba 3 Points about a week ago

He’s referring to romance novels, fan fiction etc. Read a little bit of this stuff some time and recognize why they are consuming it...

[-] mmishu 2 Points about a week ago

oh i see, i wouldn't know don't read that stuff

im just familiar with the twilight series and wolves and stuff but never figured they actually like fucking animals

is it as popular now they i feel like the current generation doesnt read as much let alone fan fiction and if they do read something its something mainstream and popular

[-] mrpoopistan 1 Point about a week ago

never figured they actually like fucking animals

The age of self-publishing on Amazon really pulled back the veil on some daffy shit that never would've been mainstreamed prior to the internet.

http://prehistoricpulp.blogspot.com/2016/06/finally-explanation-for-all-dinosaur.html

There's also an entire branch of sasquatch stuff, too.

[-] MattyAnon 6 Points about a week ago

All right. Points:

Men operate on the lines Women operate between the lines

Yes - women AVOID RESPONSIBILITY AT ALL COSTS.

The best way to get laid is to never ever project that you are thirsty or want to get laid..

Yes, but also escalate and move things along.

You are MUCH better off learning to escalate and lead than anything else. The non-needy non-thirsty make-her-play-into-my-frame stuff is less important than learning to escalate and lead. It helps for sure... but escalating and leading is first.

[-] Melbourne91 1 Point about a week ago

Do you have any links to info on this? I find TRP to be a treasure chest but there is so much content I need to go through before I find the right stuff.

Cheers for the help to btw. I totally agree

[-] MattyAnon 2 Points about a week ago

Actually this stuff isn't particularly well covered here. The above is a distillation of how I personally think about things.

[-] RedLegendx 2 Points about a week ago

Mhmm, sounds about right.

[-] DeBrawnMD 1 Point about a week ago

Is there a audiobook for rational male?

[-] Melbourne91 1 Point about a week ago

Yeah on audible

[-] Cum_Victor 1 Point about a week ago

All women are like that.

[-] jackandjill22 1 Point about a week ago

Hm

[-] Theguygotgame777 -4 Point about a week ago

Dude, why do you want us to tell you how to think? That's what blue-pilled you in the first place!

[-] ShadowBlaze80 2 Points about a week ago

Why are you being downvoted