I've read a lot of the 'sidebar' material on RedPill, and I get where it's coming from even though I don't agree with it all. But let's engage in some statistics mongering for a second. In America, the average woman weighs 168 pounds or so and is 5' 4''. That's a BMI of about 29, 1 shy from obesity. Statistics from condom manufacturers and sex researchers suggest 43% of women have had casual sex with 5 or more men, 20% with 10 or more men. A whopping 80+% had been estimated by their own admission to have had casual sex at least once. American women (abroad) have a (probably deserved) reputation as being fat, self-entitled, feminist, sacrosanct and generally just misbehaved. Poor wife material all around.
Let's not even get in to how divorce law favors women. Or the cost of a family in modern America, or the likelihood of your 'wife' cheating on you. Or the divorce rate. Let's not even get in to how the government practically incentivizes women to divorce on their husbands. So if you're looking for LTR or marriage, why even consider American women in general?
American men have become boring, pathetic and insecure. America simply has just become the most beta, blue pill nation of blind followers the world has ever known.
No longer the land of the free or home of the brave... America today is the land of wannabe thugs, government freeloaders, beta providers, pedestalizing chumps, complainers, chronic whiners, perpetual victims and seekers of the easy way out.
Here in America, if a girl is eating a piece of cake we men will use it as an opportunity to express interest in her. We encourage women to remain fat by liking all of their insipid, self-aggrandizing Facebook photos and overloading them with messages online. We encourage women to maintain their bad behavior by always dishing out no punishment for it, but rather rewarding it.
American men's expectations of women are called unrealistic by the media, or fat shaming, but is that really OK? Is that really true? It's not unrealistic at all. Amerian women, fatasses that have been raised with a huge victim complex, believe it is because it takes self-control, diet, and exercise to achieve such beauty. American women can't stand the fact that they have to put in work to achieve it. They believe they are entitled to everything in life by default. Due to our culture of absurd, epidemic level narcissism.
The whole world knows what American women are. That is except American men, who are trained to tolerate all female behavior. Allow me to quote from a RedPill post a few months ago:
Remember when you were a kid and your parents splurged on the toy you never thought you’d have? That feeling of absolute boyish joy is what European men feel when they hear the American Tourist mating call, “I’m here to find myself!” Giovanni’s eyes light up because he knows he is going to be giving a tour of his Leaning Tower of Pisa. Bertrand starts smiling because in a couple of hours he is going to be sharing his buttered baguette. Axel readies his howitzer for vaginal bombardment. The whole world knows what American women are. That is except American men, who are trained to tolerate all female behavior.
Why are American women regarded as the biggest whores on the planet? A big part of it is appearance. The American definition of sexy is the Mexican street hooker’s definition of business casual.
So I ask the same thing that Agent Smith asked Neo at the end of The Matrix. Why do you persist?
fnordsnord 8y ago
Because it's where we live, and the women have all the pussy.
a_nus 8y ago
I wasn't born here, but the only reason I remain here is because I get a fatter paycheck compared to anywhere else. Other than that I don't think his country has shit to offer that you couldn't find amywhere else. And as far as women and social issues, this country is fucked. I'm staying here a few more years, saving up, and GTFOing.
SeriousAccount0 8y ago
May I ask where you will go when you leave the states? I'd like to get out myself, but I want to avoid socialist-leaning places. I was thinking some part of Central or South America would be nice, like Ecuador or Colombia.
a_nus 8y ago
I had Central or South America in mind as well. But definitely not a big city. In my experience, big cities are far more contaminated in bullshit ways of thinking like extreme feminism and all that crap.
wickedwildewolf 8y ago
Not everyone here is American. Besides, I live in Asia, which is dating paradise for white guys.
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Even in US, I prefer Asian women over Caucasian. From the ones I dated, I have a hard time trusting any white girl who is even decently pretty to be LTR material.
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Ok Julien Blanc.
Ditario 8y ago
May I ask why? I had a friend tell me that he would feel excluded out of clubs BECAUSE he was white.
wickedwildewolf 8y ago
Because being white is the beauty standard here. It adds several points to your perceived SMV. Plus, being a foreigner makes you more interesting, more likely to be adventurous, and in many Asian countries it's also assumed you're rich.
ilovemagicmush 8y ago
Well - going to asia now
DickHeadSummationGuy 8y ago
Asian women are practically raised on RP much like many other cultures.
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Women being raised on RP doesn't make them any better.
DickHeadSummationGuy 8y ago
Makes them more susceptible to it being implented in their lives. So, I somewhat disagree but I understand your comment nonetheless.
bigcat48 8y ago
Mail order brides are too exspensive
DickHeadSummationGuy 8y ago
I figured this out when I was like 17. My current SO is West Indian. West Indian culture is RP at it's core. They put men on a pedestal and promote a culture where women not only know their place, but accept it and take pride in it.
RPthrowaway123 8y ago
Because I'm stuck living where I live for the time being, and they are the only ones around.
DarkisKnight 8y ago
Good question...I think I'm about to nope outta here soon tho.
RunawayGrain 8y ago
Unofrtunately, many are stuck here. Not everyone can just up and move to another country for a multitude of reasons. So you have to deal with the local resource, as bad as it may be.
kick6 8y ago
I persist because women aren't my primary motivation. I'm able to pursue all of my other hobbies with much more ease (and lower cost) than elsewhere in the world.
NickCiufi 8y ago
At the risk of getting flamed with AWALTs, there are a few women in America who make red pill decisions, usually for religious reasons. Those women make great first mates.
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-Lupe 8y ago
In my country fat shaming will get you absolutely lambasted. Period.
Same with slut shaming. Same with cold-approaching unless you're fit, handsome and dressed to the nines. It isn't uncommon for boys in school to be given detention or put on behaviour management programs for "perving", AKA looking at girls because he just hit puberty. Social workers and nurses are quickly becoming one of the most overpaid professions, so more men are heading into those fields and that's now a topic of public debate. A woman becomes eligible for asset division and spousal maintenance after a couple of years of dating a guy, she doesn't even need to move in with him. 68% of women have been raped here apparently, like we don't bother even checking statistics, it's just accepted men are pigs. Seriously, men aren't allowed to sit next to stranger's children on air flights. I'm not kidding.
Recently some poor kid did 5 years in custody from age 16-21 while he defended himself from a false rape charge. His life is fucked, can't finish school, can't find work, because despite being cleared of charges, he is permanently on the sex offender register. No one is talking about him. No one.
So yeah, in light of how completely, totally and utterly gynocentric my country is, I find it really hard to believe that you can get away with any form of fat shaming in the modern west. It's just a completely foreign concept to me.
Bro shaming is completely acceptable though. I constantly catch people snickering making jokes about whether I even lift (I clearly do) behind my back, purposefully just loud enough for me to hear. I have witnessed the rise of the arrogant beta, the effeminate little pussy that has no problems publicly ridiculing you because he is so safe behind societal barriers. I love staring at these men in the eye completely emotionless. After about 5-6 seconds of unbroken, unflinching, dead eyed stoney faced stare down something primitive clicks in their mind and they drop their heads. What I would give to have honour duelling back though...
I get shit tested non-stop. Non. Fucking. Stop. It's like they just don't believe in a male/female difference so they are always poking at my masculinity to see if it's real. It's staggering how many puffed up princesses get all haughty start shaming me because my unapologetic masculinity offends their world view whilst simultaneously throwing themselves at me because "there's just something about you". These cunts are seriously fucking deluded. Their all feminists here too. Every. Single. One. Even if they haven't the first clue on gender politics, they'll say they're a feminist loudly and proudly.
Funny, when I couldn't get a woman to save my life they were all I wanted. Now I can take my pick I couldn't find a good one if I had a million years to look.
Cacciaguida 8y ago
Canada eh? Our woman and society are fucked.
ToshiroOzuwara 8y ago
Guessing here, Canada?
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yougonnagetit 8y ago
This can be said for any upper middle class/upper class area. I'm in an NYC suburb and there were maybe 20 fat kids out of 600 at my high school.
Go to a rural or ghetto area everybody's fucking enormous.
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-Lupe 8y ago
Ha, I'm not American and I've no intention of visiting the place again.
That post was only supposed to be the first line long, then I added a second and it started to get a bit ranty. I wasn't pointing fingers, just venting. Don't shit test too much though, a big reason I refuse to settle down is because I don't want to deal with shit tests when I come home. I have competitive hobbies, I have a competitive job, I am constantly proving and improving myself. Home is the place I come to rest, reflect and recover; there's no room there for me to prove myself. Home is where I'm allowed to be vulnerable, that's worth more to me than keeping a woman interested in me. I'm sure I'm not the only guy who feels this way.
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-Lupe 8y ago
You're always going to shit-test, no point feeling bad about it, just don't overdo it is all. If my guard is always up around a woman she's never earning access to the only place I let my guard down.