women are always trying to betafy the men in their lives. this is one of the many ways to do it. weak betas=easy to control. alphas who don't give two shits about what they say=hot.

It's because they are liars.

If someone asks why:

it's because you enjoy it

If someone doesn't like muscles:

That's cool, I like mine

You're fine just the way you are:

Standing still in life is boring, dontcha think?

The bottom line is, you have your goals and you want to / enjoy working towards them. Never complain about it.

Words are to be taken at face value.

There's an awful lot of over-explanation for what is just a shit test.

• I don't like muscles.

• I don't like gingers.

• I don't like short guys.

• I don't like tall guys.

They're just taking something they think you care about and seeing how weak you are to her attempt at rustling your jimmies.

Correct answers are:

• I hate muscles too.

• You don't like steak? GTFO.

• Yeah I don't do sea food either.

• Yeah? I don't like fat bitches... Give her a sidelong glance. (Be humorous, not serious).

• That's ok, they say I have a fat dick.

Because when women think of muscles they think of someone who eats like shit and lifts weights and looks like a bloofy bodybuilder. Not a lean and aesthetic muscular physique.

I've been thinking about that type of statement recently. /u/BrunoOh seems to have nailed why. When I first met my wife I was 30lbs heavier (fatty). I lost that early on. Whenever fitness comes up she says "but I loved you when you were fat"

I think it might be a predefense against having to step up their own game. If their SO is shaping up they might ship out so it could be a subconscious effort to head that off.

Boy that line is bad.

"Why wouldn't I want to make myself the best man I can be?" would be my natural response.

eh, I would say it depends. There's a difference between being muscular and looking like a roided out freak—I'm going to keep a happy thought and assume they don't like muscles because of the latter reason.

You also have to realize how much some women hate their bodies. So anyone who is making an active effort to look and be healthier are instantly above them (figuratively). I think it ultimately comes down to envy—they wish they had the determination to go to the gym.

I consider myself to be in relatively good shape and a little muscular but even I get a little envious when I see the guy beside me has biceps bigger than my head.

Depends on the degree of musculature:

Ripped guy on front of Men's Health = sexy

Veiny bulging bodybuilder on front of Musclemag = not

What they think they want and what they respond to aren't always the same thing. Often times it's completely the opposite.

Why do women shit test?

Really? "and get some girls"? Thats basically putting a sticker on yourself saying "HELLO, I AM EXTREMELY NEEDY. I WILL INVEST TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF EFFORT JUST SO YOU WOULD LIKE ME"

women will constantly test you to see if they can influence you.

did you buy a lamborghini? "oh i hate expensive cars, it just means you have a small dick".

did you star in a big hollywood movie? "oh i hate movies" even though its so fuckin stupid they are just testing to see if you are able to be influenced by them

I still don't quite get it. When ever they see a guy with muscles they are attracted to them but say they are not.

Because people leap to the extremes. Women say they don't want to lift because the image the have of women who lift weights is the professional who builds mass with the assistance of strict dieting, and hormone assistance, and would rather look like a cardio bunny, even though cardio is less efficient in terms of weight loss.

So when asked if women like guys with muscles, they think of the guys who look like Greek monsters.

Note I am still a beta and don't really have the courage of becoming alpha yet because I still have lots of insecurities.

You're overly concerned with titles.

Who really understands why women say anything? They constantly say shit they don't mean. Pay attention to what they do, not what they say.

And this shit:

I want to try some martial arts in the future and get some girls ;)

Don't say this shit again. You sound like Yamcha from Dragon Ball. "I just want the dragon balls so I won't be scared of girls anymore!"

Dude they're just sabotaging you with their words. What you should hear when they say that is that they don't like hard work and they're feeling guilty or shitty about themselves because you're working hard. Those are stupid girls.

More importantly, who cares? Stop looking for validation from females.

Girls who say they don't like muscles never had muscles. "Asshold alphas" prowl on the weak. A man who's ripped and is alpha doesn't hunt the weak.

It's like a guy saying "I like average girls, not models". Pride defense mechanism.

1) Crab bucket mentality.

2) Pre emptive rejection/they are insecure because you look better than they do. They want to reject you before you get a chance to reject them. Also why fatties are so delusional about desiring muscular guys.

3) 80% of men are below average. In their mind, a somewhat but not overly muscular guy like you or me is the average. When you and I think of guys that lift, we think of guys that lift. When they think about guys that lift, they think of the roided up mass monsters. What we think of about "normal", is normal, the average skinnyfat guy. Their normal is either of us.

That reminds me of my mom. I'd been working out for like three months without telling them, two of which she and others spent commenting about how muscular I was getting/was. Then she asked me "Bruno, have you ever thought of joining a gym?". They didn't believe me when I told them I already was.

And, lay down the bragging. They can see you're muscular, no need to tell them. Remember the laws of power. Their perception must be that your sweet self is actually yourself, you don't have to put in effort to look as good as you do and everything comes naturally. But you and I damn well know that isn't the case.

When someone mentions that I'm in shape, I usually play it off with something like "Yeah, I have good genes", "I like to pick up and put down heavy stuff", "I occasionally have threesomes with iron and gravity" or "I thank my momma every night for what she gave me". "Thanks" is acceptable if you can't think of something.

get some girls ;)

This is the problem. I don't care if its the truth or you say it in a cheeky way, any improvements made by someone to get others to like them is pathetic.

So you see women go after guys with muscles but they say they are not attracted to it. Actions trump words. Cognitive Dissonance. Look it up.

"You have been bulking up. why are you working out so hard?"

This is them showing an interest in you but in a passive way. They are basically saying they are noticing your body, but you weren't always like that, so what are you up to? Is your improvement genuine? They are doing a congruency test. They are checking to see if the outside matches the inside.

When you say you are going to try (Just do it - Nike) martial arts (really? what are you 5? Do MMA. Play a sport) and get some girls you are showing that you are NOT congruent, in fact you are the worst type of man to a woman....let me explain:

You are a Beta in an Alpha's skin. You are tricking them. You are toying with their emotions and attraction. You wasted their time. Your the equivalent of a girl wearing a push up bra, a pound of makeup, and a slimming body wrap.

"Oh I personally don't like muscles. You are find just the way you are".

This is the typical response for you failing the congruency test. Translation: I dont like muscles on you because YOU ARE A BETA. LOOK LIKE A BETA SO I DONT WASTE MY TIME WITH YOU.

when they say they don't like muscles, they are talking about guys bigger or the same size as Batista. This does not apply to anyone smaller than batista.

You could respond by saying "That's what my last girlfriend said."

Personally I think it means "I don't like effort and guys who try too hard". It's a basic TRP concept... but to be fair, usually by muscles they mean some bodybuilder at 5% bf. Show them a picture of a good looking guy with a decent amount of lean mass at 10% and let's see the reactions.

Op, don't be a sad cunt. If a woman sais anything about your muscles, good or bad just respond with the simple but amazing line "You mirn'?" They will have no fucking idea what you are talking about and will say "wot?" which you respond with "you mirin' my aesthetics?" after that, laugh at them and tell them you just have good genetics and that you don't even lift. srs

"why are you working out so much?"

Be amused

You've been checking me out haven't you? Does my butt look good in these jeans?

I always assumed it was a reflection of their confidence. I feel like most girls who say that shit are girls who have low self esteem so they know they can't get it. They think they're unattractive and can't get those men. Why judge yourself and tell yourself that you can get better to achieve the muscle dudes when you can just talk shit about the muscle dudes and bring them down to your level or lower?

Female hamster at work

Don't listen to what they say. watch what they do. very simple TRP concept OP.

I look at it as her trying to keep you beta. One less orbiter, one less beta buck and one more guy she can't resist

"I don't like muscles" translates to "I don't like you"

Also, god damn your line for working out made me physically cringe.

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