That was a US only study which stated males not having sex has gone up by 20%, while females not having sex have gone up by 8%.
Plenty of reasons why. I think a lot has to do with economy / finances. More people are living home longer, a basic house cost 300k now, job wages have been stagnant for years. More people are focusing on trying to land a good job / career right out of school, instead of finding a wife like males here have done for decades.
Social media / dating apps are also huge on this and have changed the entire dating scene in the last 5 - 10 years.
More people are focusing on trying to land a good job / career right out of school, instead of finding a wife like males here have done for decades.
To the degree they are virgins? I mean desire to find a wife is not necessary to lose virginity. And many guys here do not consider marriage, they just spin plates.
I meant more of a societies expectations. 30 years ago, a single guy in his late 30s, early 40s was most likely looked at weirdly or probably a closet gay. Today its part of the norm.
Finding a woman, marrying, having kids and a family was all part of the american dream
Haha, yeah via TRP. But I am speaking for American males as a whole. Its really fucked up if you think about it and if our society doesn't drastically change soon, we will be on par with Japan really soon.
Well, I saw many guys (I don't live in the US) who had these dreams despite not being familiear with TRP. FWB was established before TRP and hook ups as well.
Technology is a big one. I work in IT and I'd wager a guess even the guys in that field that are married probably arent getting laid too much. Lots of grown men into cartoons and video games and pokemon shit. Basically made it so you dont have to leave the house or develope physically. Which is fine with me since when I am single I can sling dick all over town because even though I'm not Chad thundercock I'm a few notches above all the soft nu-males jerking off to spiderman porn and taking pride over never lifting a weight or changing a tire.
But what's wrong with grown men having an interest in video games and anime? I'm not into any of these but I see no problem with it tbh. I use to judge these people until I saw Manuel Ferarra being a huge fan of One Piece and I realized adults can also enjoy these kinds of things.
90% of people gaming and watching anime are indulging in escapism. Thats why teenage boys love it. It fulfills many primal needs without really accomplishing anything.
Nice your level 100, while the guy who spent the same 20days of in game time can speak basic Mandarin.
I stopped gaming once i realised how much it stagnates. So what if 90% of guys do it? Do you wanna have the same SMV has 90% of guys?
Exactly it's escapism, hell trp to a degree is escapism if you are just reading it and not apply it. And it therefore won't yield results. Videos games, porn, anime give one the illusion of getting something done, there lies the true problem.
Guys who are younger are giant pussies. Age and experience gives you confidence, playing team sports or good upbringing. All of which gets more lacking by the day. Not to mention toxic feminism and MGTOW are rifting off. Overall, our culture has eroded into narcissistic materialism and bullshit social media. We're more fragmented and alone than ever, it's a great time to be alive.
It's a combination of everything that's happening.
40% of boys in America grow up without father's. These boys were never taught how to be a man, how to think, ect. But there's also technology with dating apps and porn. Dating apps teach these boys that looks is everything(which it isn't) and porn gives these boys unrealistic expectations of women and sex. Technology and private homes is making people stay inside more often because all the entertainment they need is inside their home, so they aren't going out and meeting girls. But wait there's more! Modern feminism is pushing against natural male behavior, so we have a rise in boys affected by feminism and growing up to be pure beta males with zero testosterone in them.
And so we just have a bunch of chaos going on and boys in America are on a steep decline. Who knows what the outcome of this will be.
As 1) all societal constructs meant to limit hypergamy are removed (e.g. marriage and slut-shaming) and 2) sexual promiscuity is not seen as shameful or is promoted as a virtue (through the music industry, Hollywood, celebrities, the media, the proliferation of Tinder and other such apps) 80% of women will compete for the top 20% of men...leaving the bottom 80% of men battling it out for the bottom 20% of women.
In terms of sexual selection, we're going back to the cavemen times. Women don't need men for finances anymore (they hold half the jobs and their wages are rapidly increasing), they just want to fuck the hottest alpha (best genes), being provided for doesn't really matter, the only thing that matters is SMV. Men will fuck any reasonably attractive women. So you have average and above average women throwing themselves at top tier men, and below average women being competed for by average and below average men. This is also why the % of men who haven't had sex in the last 12 months has tripled since 2008.
Out of all the causes listed above Tinder has probably been the biggest. If you're a very good-looking man you can fuck 3-4 new girls a week every single week, no strings attached. If you're average or below average, you will struggle.
The only solution is to get yourself in that top 20%. Once you're there, it's a beautiful place to be.
Who even are the bottom 20%? are we talking freaks and the obese because I swear even those girls get high rates of dudes hitting on them... I've seen that shit with my own eyes.
Too many fat girls means that most guys are competing for the slim sexy girls which are a minority. What’s obesity rate? Like 50% now?
Girls in the 7-9 range have many more options and are working with an inflated SMV.
Eventually, being above average will only get you 7s forget about 8s.
Go to any country where being slim is still the norm and you’ll see how much easier it is to date pretty girls. It’s actually fairly shocking at first.
It’s these fuckin pig western countries where the fast food diet is considered the norm and Netflix means people ‘don’t have the time’ to work out that is fucking up the way things work.
What a women considers an average partner is and will continue to increase
For every obese girl there is more than 1 obese guy.
Go to any country where being slim is still the norm and you’ll see how much easier it is to date pretty girls. It’s actually fairly shocking at first.
Well, I expect that both supply and demand are higher in these countries.
But who knows? I don't know what's happening in the US.
I watched a documentary about how the KGB infiltrated the US education system on purpose to push a feminized agenda with the hopes of a female leader, as it’s proven that female leadership/dominance leads to the downfall of a society.
It’s somewhere on YouTube and was pretty interesting.
I don’t know if it’s bs or not, but worth the 30-40 mins or so
I watched a documentary about how the KGB infiltrated the US education system
Yeah, and US agencies infiltrated russian education systems, we all know it.
While I believe it's worse to make an average woman the leader than to make an average man the leader (both options are bad, average people are terrible leaders), I can't say I believe in absolutes.
I'm 22 and still a virgin, I have a speech impediment, girls did not like me in highschool and I was bullied. Not looking for any sympathy from you guys as I don't five a FUCK about it but I'd say from my experience, the low confidence as a teen and lack of male guidance or teachings of self confidence (grew up in single parent houshold) and the fact that I've read posts from a lot of guys here who have both parents at home and still "haven't figured it out" can't get dates or fuck, seems to tell me that there's no bullshit in that post. Plus it's a known fact that most millenial men only have 3-4 kills before they get married. There's lots of mental, social, and even educational reasons for why men today aren't the men of the past, the ones who were fucking ass and taking names in their adress book like they were the founders of PUA. All I hope is that the Red Pill can at least fix this issue of "finding your manhood" for us millenial men.. actually I'm not even a millenial, I was born in 97, I'm fucking generation X. Why do boomers call us millenials? Your all 26 and above.. excuse my rant, but seriously, I just want to fuck a shit load of hb8s dirty blondes and brunnetes and above from college while working on building a Six figure business is that too much to ask for? I think not, I'm a simple man.
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DifficultReference2 5y ago
Tinder, online dating and social media.
Project_Zero_Betas 5y ago
Excessive time in front of a screen, not enough engaging in activities that actually raise their SMV.
Joeboard 5y ago
That was a US only study which stated males not having sex has gone up by 20%, while females not having sex have gone up by 8%.
Plenty of reasons why. I think a lot has to do with economy / finances. More people are living home longer, a basic house cost 300k now, job wages have been stagnant for years. More people are focusing on trying to land a good job / career right out of school, instead of finding a wife like males here have done for decades.
Social media / dating apps are also huge on this and have changed the entire dating scene in the last 5 - 10 years.
rus9384 5y ago
To the degree they are virgins? I mean desire to find a wife is not necessary to lose virginity. And many guys here do not consider marriage, they just spin plates.
Joeboard 5y ago
I meant more of a societies expectations. 30 years ago, a single guy in his late 30s, early 40s was most likely looked at weirdly or probably a closet gay. Today its part of the norm.
Finding a woman, marrying, having kids and a family was all part of the american dream
rus9384 5y ago
Now the dream is to spin multiple hot plates.
Joeboard 5y ago
Haha, yeah via TRP. But I am speaking for American males as a whole. Its really fucked up if you think about it and if our society doesn't drastically change soon, we will be on par with Japan really soon.
rus9384 5y ago
Well, I saw many guys (I don't live in the US) who had these dreams despite not being familiear with TRP. FWB was established before TRP and hook ups as well.
Big_Red_suppository 5y ago
Technology is a big one. I work in IT and I'd wager a guess even the guys in that field that are married probably arent getting laid too much. Lots of grown men into cartoons and video games and pokemon shit. Basically made it so you dont have to leave the house or develope physically. Which is fine with me since when I am single I can sling dick all over town because even though I'm not Chad thundercock I'm a few notches above all the soft nu-males jerking off to spiderman porn and taking pride over never lifting a weight or changing a tire.
IWantAllYourMoney 5y ago
But what's wrong with grown men having an interest in video games and anime? I'm not into any of these but I see no problem with it tbh. I use to judge these people until I saw Manuel Ferarra being a huge fan of One Piece and I realized adults can also enjoy these kinds of things.
TheChaser78 5y ago
If you look at most of the gamers that aren’t youtubers - you’ll know exactly why.
Acerhand 5y ago
90% of people gaming and watching anime are indulging in escapism. Thats why teenage boys love it. It fulfills many primal needs without really accomplishing anything.
Nice your level 100, while the guy who spent the same 20days of in game time can speak basic Mandarin.
I stopped gaming once i realised how much it stagnates. So what if 90% of guys do it? Do you wanna have the same SMV has 90% of guys?
resnine 5y ago
Exactly it's escapism, hell trp to a degree is escapism if you are just reading it and not apply it. And it therefore won't yield results. Videos games, porn, anime give one the illusion of getting something done, there lies the true problem.
RedSkeller 5y ago
Guys who are younger are giant pussies. Age and experience gives you confidence, playing team sports or good upbringing. All of which gets more lacking by the day. Not to mention toxic feminism and MGTOW are rifting off. Overall, our culture has eroded into narcissistic materialism and bullshit social media. We're more fragmented and alone than ever, it's a great time to be alive.
SimplyFishOil 5y ago
It's a combination of everything that's happening.
40% of boys in America grow up without father's. These boys were never taught how to be a man, how to think, ect. But there's also technology with dating apps and porn. Dating apps teach these boys that looks is everything(which it isn't) and porn gives these boys unrealistic expectations of women and sex. Technology and private homes is making people stay inside more often because all the entertainment they need is inside their home, so they aren't going out and meeting girls. But wait there's more! Modern feminism is pushing against natural male behavior, so we have a rise in boys affected by feminism and growing up to be pure beta males with zero testosterone in them.
And so we just have a bunch of chaos going on and boys in America are on a steep decline. Who knows what the outcome of this will be.
resnine 5y ago
Without a father there is no discipline and structure. It results in betas in total chaos in the world.
SiLeet 5y ago
I have 2 plates atm. and my only problem in life is that i fuck so much my dick can't handle the stress. 22 y/o from germany
Reason why boys under 30 don't fuck could be the lack of self confidence and blue pill mindset.
It's impossible to not get laid if you're red pilled. I'm talking about the majority of woman.
truthbomb999 5y ago
That study was done in the USA. European women are quite a bit more open sexually
volvostupidshit 5y ago
Really? I thought it was the other way around.
hominesunchained 5y ago
As 1) all societal constructs meant to limit hypergamy are removed (e.g. marriage and slut-shaming) and 2) sexual promiscuity is not seen as shameful or is promoted as a virtue (through the music industry, Hollywood, celebrities, the media, the proliferation of Tinder and other such apps) 80% of women will compete for the top 20% of men...leaving the bottom 80% of men battling it out for the bottom 20% of women.
In terms of sexual selection, we're going back to the cavemen times. Women don't need men for finances anymore (they hold half the jobs and their wages are rapidly increasing), they just want to fuck the hottest alpha (best genes), being provided for doesn't really matter, the only thing that matters is SMV. Men will fuck any reasonably attractive women. So you have average and above average women throwing themselves at top tier men, and below average women being competed for by average and below average men. This is also why the % of men who haven't had sex in the last 12 months has tripled since 2008.
Out of all the causes listed above Tinder has probably been the biggest. If you're a very good-looking man you can fuck 3-4 new girls a week every single week, no strings attached. If you're average or below average, you will struggle.
The only solution is to get yourself in that top 20%. Once you're there, it's a beautiful place to be.
rus9384 5y ago
"Oh no!" - the guy who is within top 21%, but who is not within top 20%.
resnine 5y ago
Who even are the bottom 20%? are we talking freaks and the obese because I swear even those girls get high rates of dudes hitting on them... I've seen that shit with my own eyes.
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Startlivingfornow 5y ago
Too many fat girls means that most guys are competing for the slim sexy girls which are a minority. What’s obesity rate? Like 50% now?
Girls in the 7-9 range have many more options and are working with an inflated SMV.
Eventually, being above average will only get you 7s forget about 8s.
Go to any country where being slim is still the norm and you’ll see how much easier it is to date pretty girls. It’s actually fairly shocking at first.
It’s these fuckin pig western countries where the fast food diet is considered the norm and Netflix means people ‘don’t have the time’ to work out that is fucking up the way things work.
What a women considers an average partner is and will continue to increase
rus9384 5y ago
For every obese girl there is more than 1 obese guy.
Well, I expect that both supply and demand are higher in these countries.
But who knows? I don't know what's happening in the US.
Startlivingfornow 5y ago
I watched a documentary about how the KGB infiltrated the US education system on purpose to push a feminized agenda with the hopes of a female leader, as it’s proven that female leadership/dominance leads to the downfall of a society.
It’s somewhere on YouTube and was pretty interesting.
I don’t know if it’s bs or not, but worth the 30-40 mins or so
rus9384 5y ago
Yeah, and US agencies infiltrated russian education systems, we all know it.
While I believe it's worse to make an average woman the leader than to make an average man the leader (both options are bad, average people are terrible leaders), I can't say I believe in absolutes.
isthisalreadyused 5y ago
It's an interview you're talking about I believe, and here's the snippet:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bX3EZCVj2XA
Startlivingfornow 5y ago
That's it. This is further explored by this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOMkl3ApTK0
Project_Zero_Betas 5y ago
So Red Sparrow wasn't fiction?
Startlivingfornow 5y ago
Not sure about sparrow, but red cock is certainly real
Project_Zero_Betas 5y ago
You're supposed to avoid the clap
RedKnightTime 5y ago
Idgaf about what other dudes are or are not getting laid, I have man shit to do, who the fuck sits around gossiping about this type of shit
MedicalNothing 5y ago
I trust that, Czech girls don’t date or fuck Czech guys.. it so common knowledge that even foreigners know this saying.
TheAnomaly9730 5y ago
I'm 22 and still a virgin, I have a speech impediment, girls did not like me in highschool and I was bullied. Not looking for any sympathy from you guys as I don't five a FUCK about it but I'd say from my experience, the low confidence as a teen and lack of male guidance or teachings of self confidence (grew up in single parent houshold) and the fact that I've read posts from a lot of guys here who have both parents at home and still "haven't figured it out" can't get dates or fuck, seems to tell me that there's no bullshit in that post. Plus it's a known fact that most millenial men only have 3-4 kills before they get married. There's lots of mental, social, and even educational reasons for why men today aren't the men of the past, the ones who were fucking ass and taking names in their adress book like they were the founders of PUA. All I hope is that the Red Pill can at least fix this issue of "finding your manhood" for us millenial men.. actually I'm not even a millenial, I was born in 97, I'm fucking generation X. Why do boomers call us millenials? Your all 26 and above.. excuse my rant, but seriously, I just want to fuck a shit load of hb8s dirty blondes and brunnetes and above from college while working on building a Six figure business is that too much to ask for? I think not, I'm a simple man.
suckisuckilongtime 5y ago
Link study pls
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zxcvb7809 5y ago
With 7.5 billion people on the planet someone is having sex lol.
Auvergnat 5y ago
It’s the sexodus.
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