I just turned 30 and within the past year or so I've cut off most of my male friends. These dudes are essentially beta's that are still doing the same shit they did ten years ago. I have one solid friend that's also pretty redpilled and has my back no matter what and two good friends i dont see very often but were still close. Besides that I can't stand how most guys behave. Such beta low self worth behavior bothers me. I don't even attend large social situations with all the old boys anymore cause I refuse to be fake and pretend I care about them. Anyone else getting like this as they get older? Or am I just being an asshole.
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AWorseManThanYou 5y ago
You’re probably being an asshole.
You can’t expect everyone in your crew to be alpha. Part of being alpha is knowing how to lead. Most of the time you will be leading betas. Nothing wrong with that. Don’t hold it against them they just don’t know better.
Don’t let them stop you though. If you’re the leader then you can do whatever you want.
CC_ee 5y ago
I'm sure if he were really friends with them it wouldn't matter.
Let's be real most "friends" are just people to spend time with.
BigBallsJamesHunt 5y ago
Stupid, I have lots of friends who are doing the same things for 10 years, the things you should look for in a friend:
-you are having fun when you are together
-he is not talking shit behind your back
Everyone says you have to be around people with high SMV. That's bullshit. You know when you want to be around these people? When you are working and networking, other than that stick to the people that entertain you and have your back when shit hits the fan.
ProFriendZoner 5y ago
If anyone is fake, it's you. You're still a beta and trying to be red pill. You're trying a bit to hard. Narrowing down your friends list isn't a bad idea, keep good people around you and discard the ones that bring you down. But you're putting people down to build yourself up is beta behavior. Alpha's don't do that. They don't have to. They don't give a shit about everyone or anyone else. They just worry about themselves.
teveza11 5y ago
It's not that I cut off male relationships, I just prefer to spend time with female sexual partners.
I don't get annoyed by dudes who keep acting beta and failing with women, they do their thing, I do mine.
Filmguy000 5y ago
Well about 12 years ago, I spent quite some time with a group of guys that were very cool in the sense that they were losers like I was. We were a merry group of outcasts/incels who would go out drinking, have bbqs, take trips to Vegas, etc. I really do cherish the times I spent with them.
But we were all stagnant dorks that were sad and frustrated at the end of the day. A lot of drunken conversations consisted of complaining about how shitty women were and why are we still single when fuckboys got all the pussy, blah blah. And I was easily the most disadvantaged lookswise due to my short stature and fat body. But I was always the one who tried different things. I was hungry to get in on the game and tired of just watching everyone else have all the fun with women.
So in a span of about 10 years, I started to make changes with my thinking and appearance. I started buying new clothes, exercising and practicing game. I failed a fuck ton but then I had my first lay and then I knew, I could do it.
And those friends that I mentioned earlier, weren't so keen on the new me. Don't get me wrong, I never talked down to them or treated them any different. But I know they could sense I was "different". Over time I had to slowly see them less and less because of their low blows and fits. I could see they started to resent me and they began insulting me and talking shit subtly at first. But then it got out of hand when I started dating a girl who was very attractive, tall and lean. This girl was about 5'9 and I'm 5'5. On top of that, I was still pudgy but my game was becoming more refined which helped. So looking back, they must have thought, "how the fuck??". Don't get me wrong, I was proud to have her there with me, but I genuinely did not have a subtle agenda to "brag" to my friends. I seriously wanted her to have fun with us, because we (my friends and I) were fun when together.
It was a birthday at a bar one night and I brought this girl with me. My "friends" did not react well at all. Some of them even had their own girl, but they were all the fat bitchy feminist type. These dudes literally went into a feminine hive-mind mode and attempted to break me down that night by pointing out my flaws and even brought up not so appealing stories of the old days. One of them even made a point to stand close to me at all times (I figured out that it was because he was about 6'2" and wanted to show that girl how short I looked compared to him).
And I always invited them out with me, asked them to workout with me, all that stuff because I really loved those guys but they did not want to change. I was a bit hurt with them but ultimately, they no longer have a place in my life anymore. And its amazing that people resent looking at other's results but in turn, ignore the journey that led them there.
bruiser18 5y ago
Not a veteran, but I cut a lot of people off. You will experience crabs in a bucket mentality. I don’t like spending my time with guys who talk shit behind my back like fucking girls. They see me fucking hot girls, doing well for myself, making money and so on and they just hate.
Let em hate bro, fuck them. Leave them in their rut.
Project_Zero_Betas 5y ago
This is what happened to me, more or less: They realized almost all the girls they were hanging out with were just using them to get my attention, and the first instance I had an issue with one of the girls, they decided to shit on me in an effort to white knight themselves for a girl that would never fuck any of them. And now I'm a superstar. Sad.
johnnynix18 5y ago
This is the same type of behavior I'm repulsed by. Grown men gossiping like little high school bitches and stabbing each other in the back over a 5 at best
Project_Zero_Betas 5y ago
Oneitis is a real condition.
VeryTalentedCheff 5y ago
That sounds narcisistic as fuck, I doubt thats the full story.
Project_Zero_Betas 5y ago
:-)
It is. Soon as I severed from the group, all of the girls we'd hang out with dropped them like a bucket of lead. They just wanted to virtue signal to a few girls, and it backfired on them miserably. I LOLed.
"Only thing more embarrassing than an alpha who doesn't realize he's the alpha are betas who don't realize they're betas."
;-)
bruiser18 5y ago
Same as me. These guys thought they were studs cause they were ‘talking’ to plenty of girls hahaha. Soon as I started fucking the hottest girl at uni, they talked mad shit about me. Behind my back of course. They give me dirty looks when they see me with her, and apparently I’m a show off for enjoying the fruits of my labor like driving a nice car or wearing nice clothes. But hey I’d rather them hate than leech off my success.
Project_Zero_Betas 5y ago
LMFAO almost exact same situation. Tall poppies and all that, amiright?
forsaken_in_the_dark 5y ago
I cut off everyone. At one point I realised they were all toxic with their dramas, willingness to take advantage and substance abuse. My life has become so much better, but I still need to work on a couple of things.
johnnynix18 5y ago
Honestly my life if so much better since I cut everyone off, grown ass men still having high school type drama it's pathetic
Project_Zero_Betas 5y ago
Did the exact same thing. Am I an asshole? Maybe. Probably. But I honestly don't care to deal with jealous betas on a regular basis.
Thisismybot8 5y ago
Male friends don't add too much value to my life. What I'm in interested in: Money and women. I get plenty of both on my own.
OrzhovPalatine 5y ago
A bit of an arse. I never burn bridges but I do downgrade/upgrade my male friends accordingly. Not all of your friends are going to be alpha or red pill aware, just a fact of life. Even guys I'm no longer interested in meeting I still keep a channel open but I never go out of my way for them. When I first got red pill aware I cut off alot of people because I felt like I was somehow better than my blue pill friends but then realized they didn't know any better and I should try to be an example instead of a snob. So I dialed it down and still hung out when it was convenient for me.
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So I still hang out with some of my blue pill friends but I always share ideas with them when we shoot the shit. Some ideas get though, some don't. My single friends still want the dream but most of my friends in relationship have converted over.
dani098 5y ago
I cut off a few old friends just do to the general negativity that put out. They were more "alpha" than my more reliable friends
Now I am asking my self who was more alpha? my former friends or my reliable ones?
BluBlac59 5y ago
Look for like minded men. After some time apart you can attend some functions with your old friends. I do it and measure myself against them. I don't tell them that of course. You don't have to be fake just be your improved self and enjoy the reactions. Be funny be secure. Watch them as they get overweight and can no longer get laid at home. Their wives will begin to dress them down and make them unattractive the women will get fat too. Its kinda like driving past an accident and being grateful you weren't in it. If someone calls me an asshole I just smile and say, "You're right I'm a good looking asshole."
_Anarchon_ 5y ago
You don't want your friends to be exactly like you...they'd be annoying af.
Startlivingfornow 5y ago
You're being a dumbass.
The only reason you're redpilled is because for one reason or another you lucked out and found an extensive resource that changed your way of thinking.
Most of these guys are doing the best they can with what they know. It's not a character flaw, it's the fact that they were cucked by society in more ways than one.
I am still cool with all of my BP friends and don't hold their life decisions against them. I don't hang out with a lot of them because we simply aren't interested in the same things, but if they were to reach out to me, the years gone by or what car they're driving or how much money they've made in the last 365 days wouldn't factor into my decision.
Be careful where this Rabbit hole takes you.
There's a reason isolation is one step-short of a death sentence.
rpisnotpua 5y ago
Keep people in your life who add value. Remove people who aren't worth the effort. It's pretty straightforward.
"If I were a girl, would I be delighted to LTR him?"
kayfab 5y ago
I understand this cause i did the same thing, we started hanging out at 17 and by the age of 25 i had started my career in IT, while all those guys where still working at the grocery store. I also cut them out because when we went out most of them wanted to make me look like an idiot infront of women etc. Competition and more.
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I saw of few of them later in life i am 46, one of them message me via facebook he wanted to go out.... i told him to fuck off cause he made me look like an idiot infront of so many girls.
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If you are not in true force loneliness, you need to find friends that push you in the right direction, encourage you and are not jealous of you are simply a bunch of idiot losers.
Puta666Hola 5y ago
When I got into the Red Pill (15 y/o) I cut off all my friends, and, although most of them were losers I also cut off (unfortunately) a friend who was like my brother who was and is a player (he gets a lot of girls) and has many red pill beliefs (doesn't know about the Red Pill). I focused on improving and now at 16 I have a good body, hang out with chicks, and I started hanging out with that friend 8 talked about who is a player and he helps me a lot with getting girls. I recommend you analyze all your current friends and cut out only those who are losers while keeping the others who are alpha.
redpharma7789 5y ago
I had to cut all of my friends back home about 6 months into really swallowing the pill.
They got so jealous that they tried cat-fishing me to see if I had good “game”. They also started to talk shit to other girls back home and ruin my reputation.
Luckily, I have yet to see the mastermind behind the operation because I’m going to kick his ass if I ever do.
Oily1309 5y ago
I've recently lost quite a few friends just due to them having a girlfriend now. They literally spend every free minute with them and won't react to any messages like scheduling stuff to do together.
Luckily I've got one friend who remained the same person irrespective of whether he has a girlfriend or not.
People just put pussy as their number one objective in their life. As soon as they are single, the wanna go out and do stuff together. Once a girl appears though, they forget you even exist. Such a pathetic behavior
ThrowsSharksAtBirds 5y ago
I am early 30' and don't see cutting off ties with your "Beta" friends is required. Sounds to me you're just insecure and egoistic. So yea, I would say you're being an asshole.
From what I keep reading around here is is people who claim they are Red Pill aware start adopting extreme behaviour and seeking online validation for their behaviour. But that is a matter of calibration what others say.
I have friends, some married, and probably Blue Pilled if I let people judge them here. But they are people who add value to my life. As long as there is mutual respect I don't see an issue. And to me personally, respect has no Blue or Red pill version. It is pure as it is.
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