I've met a lot women who say they don't care about sex... then when you get them in bed they go fucking wild like it's the best thing ever. But then you hear them talk about how they want love/compassion/romance. What matters most to them the sex or the love? Also what would you say about us guys? Is it love or sex we like more. I hear a lot of people say women can't love the way we want to be love, yet women crave our love and attention. So what's the deal guys?
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RuleTheOne 5y ago
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z2a1-9 5y ago
Yup
RedSkeller 5y ago
Women only like things that directly benefit them in the moment. Love is only a male concept. Sex for most men is busting a nut, for women it’s about being dominated and submitting to it.
So women do not love. They have emotions in the moment that are fleeting. They use sex and love to manipulate and justify their actions. Bigger the slut, the more honest the woman. They’re in love right before the moment they dump you for the next guy. Same with sex, you’re the best they’ve had until they find better.
resnine 5y ago
I think that goes for both men and women. Women seem to somewhat despise the physical act at times, and crave love and attention much more so. Yet then they act like they need sex, it's all over the place. One day love, next day sex. One day wanting to be dominated, next day feminist.
rus9384 5y ago
I think you ask the question in a little wrong place. Men here are sure all women are gold diggers.
That said, many women have innate desire to want commitment. That does not stop all of those women from leaving you.
There is another kind of women. Who really want sex and almost don't crave attention. But since those women themselves have DGAF/abundance mentality, TRP guys rarely get them. TRP guys have success with insecure women who will chase any "alpha" enough guy.
resnine 5y ago
If all women are gold-diggers how come I see them with bum losers? I see a lot of women dating down in a monetary sense but date up in men who are more dominate/assertive and better looking. Like that rebel type dude.
What's the best strategy/methods to get DGAF/abundance type women?
rus9384 5y ago
You have to have a balance. Appear too needy and she might be afraid you will take away what she likes: freedom (you might want to stop reading here, these girls are not submissive). Appear too indifferent and she forgets about you. Those girls do not chase guys. Some advices here suggest to be indifferent and that works only for girls who want to chase guys, who actually are obsessed with the last guy they had sex with.
I think RP advice works for the first date with these girls, but works worse past that. But anyway, TRP guys are not really interested in those girls. I would say though, almost all HB9+ (that's like 1-3% of girls) are like that (that's what gives them abundance mentality).
In fact, what you might want is to break her frame. Because frame is like a shell giving the power of independency.
resnine 5y ago
Right, like most things it's about balancing two extreme ends, here it's indifference and attention. Why exactly does she like freedom? I assume you mean the guy being free? Like a dude that just does what he wants because he wants to do them, not controlled by anything thing.
rus9384 5y ago
Eh, I mean, girls who (openly or secretly) wish to marry Chad and have 3 kids from him are not DGAF girls. Because thy already are obsessed by the idea of marrying Chad. And they do give a fuck what guys think of them. They find it pleasurable to have orbiters. Because it validates them.
DGAF girls find orbiters annoying. They'd rather spend time on hobbies than spend time on orbiters. And they need no validation.
Regarding freedom... well, such girls won't "treat you like a king" whatever you do. So, we can say it's their freedom. But if you appear obsessed with them it's intimidating. That's like me, I find girls who text me too many times per day intimidating.
These girls won't try to "upgrade" you to LTR, and it's not like "you are man, so you must propose it". No, they don't even crave LTR. Once their clock might work and they change, but not today. If they are in early 20s.
They are good FWB, but not suited for LTR.
mulga122 5y ago
Women have a hard time differentiating these two. When woman sees a high quality male she falls in love with him and wants to fuck with him. And she genuinely believes its love.
vpjtqwv 5y ago
This is it. That's exactly what is. People don't get this I think. They think they are in love because hot guys come so easy. And everybody really does seem to love them. Everybody seems to want to be with them. So when a guy they want to fuck (he's got to be good looking for a woman to really want to fuck him) comes along they think they are in love because they don't know any better. They don't ever get to look past looks because they never are in situations where looks are not a part of their lifes. You can easily get by on being pretty. So that's the only thing that matters and what defines love for them. Is he hot? Then I want to fuck him and I love him.
FineCopy2 5y ago
This. Nailed it. She just seems to "fall out of love" of existing partner when she gets higher smv.
INNASKILLZ2K18 5y ago
Most of the time, when you hear a chick talking about love, they are usually speaking about THEM. They want to be 'romanced, swept off their feet, treated like a princess' etc.
VERY RARELY, if ever...will they talk about real love, towards someone else - 'I want to love a man through thick and thin, and unconditionally, and sacrifice'. That's all male stuff.
Women will sit back and expect the BETA to do all the loving. In other words, they just want feels.
In reality, they couldn't give a fuck about a man loving her. It doesn't mean anything to them. They want feels, tingles, and to be fucked hard.
Give them a choice between a beta who honestly professes his love for her, and an alpha who doesn't give a fuck, but puts her through 45 different positions and dumps on her face - I bet on the latter winning the day.
resnine 5y ago
Right, the male does ALL the work. We have to be bringing the charm, the charisma, the humor, the gifts, they just look pretty and get it all handed to them. They WANT love from the receiving end but aren't going to be the one giving it out. It's a really interesting point there.... they can RECEIVE love but can't give it back the way a man does and wants. They WANT love but don't was to GIVE love back. That's the males job.
Tingles > all. Similarly, feelings in the moment > all.
A loyal beta provider is disgusting to women. The humble NiceGuy just get shitted on in multiple levels of society.
I know it's frowned upon about talking about fictional characters but is there a foundational structure you go about for building your DGAF character. Such as someone from a movie/TV show? Who would you say balances the whole DGAF/Abundance and RP alpha mentality that women are most attracted to that is a fictional character in a movie/TV show.
mrHappyPotatoe 5y ago
Also fucking them on the street behind smelly dumster can be really romantic to them.
Best answer would be to your question: who cares.
GratificationDelayed 5y ago
Women just want the D end of story
DramaEmperor 5y ago
Don’t focus on what they say, look at what they do!
JensenMse 5y ago
I'd put my money on attention. That's the number one resource they want from you. It doesn't matter what they say, it depends on the context of their words. If a girl thinks she'll get your attention through sex, she'll make herself sailable to you. True love doesn't exist...it's an idealization of a girl's fantasy.
Take, for example, when a girl tells you that she loves you. She actually doesn't. She's in love with the way your attention makes her feel at that moment. Or even after sex when she says she loves you. She's in love with the way you conveyed your sexuality on her at that moment. Either way, it wires down to the amount of attention you give her, and how that attention is conveyed.
resnine 5y ago
But not all attention is created equal. How do I make myself the type of guy she wants attention from? If I just play IDGAF/Abundance doesn't really matter unless I actually have something she wants which is kinda vague.
Do you think a girls ideal love is where daddy dotes on them and gives them everything? I think a lot stems from that father/daughter relationship and then they look for it in their bf/gf relationships.
Elongated_Muskk 5y ago
Woman love all attention, positive and negative, woman want attention from all guys, even the ones they don't want to fuck. You only give woman attention (positive OR negative) when they are behaving how you want them to.
If a daddy sucks up to a girl and gives her everything she'll probably lose sexual interest in him as an alpha fucks. Remember, first and foremost woman biologically seek protection and security in a relationship, you take advantage of that by applying all the basic TRP principles, frame, confidence, and abundance mentality.
Different kind of girls need different levels of attention, you gotta find out how much to give on your own.
resnine 5y ago
Right, balance and calibration. Thanks.
brabg 5y ago
A man's duty is not to give his love to a woman, but to give her love to the woman.
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For a woman to love is necessary to get good sex. She needs to get good sex to get her love. She also needs to fight to keep the man.
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Women like good sex, and don't like a man giving "his" love. They like a man giving "her" love, a thing that cannot be separated from sex.
resnine 5y ago
I don't understand this. What does giving her HER LOVE and not my love mean? Can you expand this some more.
Acerhand 5y ago
He’s saying the man simply needs to provoke the feminine concept of love into her rather than loving her like a man loves.
You do this by being high SMV alpha and doing the hings that will provoke her to feel her concept of love. Not doing anything that would lead a male to love. They are different things.
resnine 5y ago
What's the feminine concept of lose as opposed to masculine concept of love? Do you mean like the love I have for my dog, giving him treats, petting him, showering him with love?
Project_Zero_Betas 5y ago
Depends on what tingles their maternal instinct more.
FereallyRed 5y ago
In one of those scenarios you're observing her actions, the other you're observing her statements.
I think there might be some wisdom on here about which one you should be paying more attention to.
Bruchibre 5y ago
Love.
SubstantialBeanBoi 5y ago
They want whatever Chad wants in that particular situation hahahah