So I am in LTR and my dog just passed away. Known the best of all boys for 15 years. Im not gonna lie, I hit a down. How can I keep it together, when my gf comes home later? I really just want to get drunk and pass out, which is definitely the wrong way to deal with it
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idontlikemangos 5y ago
I am so sorry man. Take some time to grieve by yourslef. Cry if you must. Talk to a friend. Grief is not a sign of weakness.
hazelstein 5y ago
Sorry for your loss.
Grieve in private.
Don't depend of drugs or liquor.
swallow the sadness.
What's gone is gone, remember dog in kind words.
_Anarchon_ 5y ago
If you're worried about "holding frame" at a time like this, there's something wrong with you. Grieve. Be yourself. Worrying about how your woman is going to react is disrespectful to your dog. If she can't support you in a time like this, or chooses this time to take advantage, she's not worth keeping around.
CokeRockOnYourClit 5y ago
Im sorry bro. He may be gone but the memories you have together will stay forever.
FereallyRed 5y ago
Step away.
Use the "I need space" line.
Grieve in private. Never let them SEE you weak.
Condolences, man.
Armydude19 5y ago
This. My dog died 2 years ago and I had her for 8 years. I cried and weeped for her in front of of a plate. She never looked at me the same again.
Grieve in silence and lonesome. Don't let her see you.
_Anarchon_ 5y ago
You're a fucking moron, and are taking this red pill shit too seriously. There are times when a man is allowed to be emotional. Grieving a death is one of them. In fact, not doing so is very damaging, and you've giving him horrible advice.
RStonePT 5y ago
No, the only slipup there was not kicking the girl out to have his moment.
You can be whatever you want, but girls are solipsism incarnate.
Babe, leave me alone for a.minute, I'll call you later
VSelf47 5y ago
There was a post a while back, where one guy was dumped when he cried when talking about his dead mother, not recently dead.
Now, I’ve never read here about not feeling anything but do keep them in check. This advice is good.
NipperSlipperShaun 5y ago
If a woman leaves you from grieving over a dead parent, they are doing you a favour.
fade2clear 5y ago
1000%^
Being redpilled means being outcome independent, if you want to express emotion or not, that's your choice. But worrying about your girl leaving you because of your reaction to some SERIOUS shit, is really some of the most backwards "alpha" bullshit I've ever come across. It's definitely real, but as you said, she's doing you an utmost favor.
That being said, you can expect feelings to change if you hysterically cry for a whole week about your dead dog.
RStonePT 5y ago
It will always have a cost, there are no women who are impervious to it
DatingTank 5y ago
Exactly. It's a reflection on the woman, not on you. Not even plate-worthy.
friendswithcocaine 5y ago
Agree 100 %. What the fuck is up with this overly manly man bullshit? Jesus! Your girl would probably appreciate seeing you being vulnerable infront of her.
FereallyRed 5y ago
What the fuck do you hope to gain by appearing weak in front of others?
Bluepill faggotry.
Deal with your shit by yourself. Period.
If you're even LARPing as a man then any woman will realize that giving you space is what you need.
Fuck your validation seeking pussy tactics.
You're advocating showing weakness. Stupid.
JSwain323058 5y ago
I think your weakness would be caring to much what other people think about you. Live your life and who gives a fuck what other people think. It's only validation if you need it. Your afraid to be yourself in front of others. Humans have emotions just like all other animals if someone doesn't understand that I would say they have issues.
RStonePT 5y ago
Being aware of and caring about are two separate things
friendswithcocaine 5y ago
Pussy tactics? You’re one crazy motherfucking, aren’t you? HIS FUCKING DOG DIED, COME ON. What if they were at his mom’s funeral, would it be okey then?
FereallyRed 5y ago
Even if your dad died, don't break down in front of people, pussy.
The mark of a man is that even though he has strong emotions, he doesn't let them control his life.
Deal with your shit.
Nobody needs nor wants to see it.
treehauz 5y ago
I'm watching you still trying to help them. Let them learn it by doing mistakes. I've been there so I received your message from the first one already. Let them drown a little. Your message is in their subconscious mind. It will click at the right time. Not yet tho
MardGeer 5y ago
This isn't true, don't listen to this guy, don't take chances as a lot of girls see guys as masculinity objects. To destroy her fantasy means to risk things, most girls aren't understanding in this regards. Read the side bar.
friendswithcocaine 5y ago
You’re taking this thing way too seriously if you think you can’t cry in front of a Girl, when your fucking dog through 15 years died. Give me a fucking break.
whiffofass 5y ago
Not so long ago there was a big thread on reddit (not TRP) made by a girl whose boyfriend admitted to her that he was sexually abused by his older brother when he was young and let out a tear. The girl herself said she no longer sees him as this macho guy and wanted to to dump his ass. You better believe crying because of a dead dog will break her fantasy if you've set the bar so high with this TRP shit. You can't go soft if you want to play this game (and win).
MardGeer 5y ago
I won't give you a fucking break, no one's gonna give you a fucking break. Live with that fucking reality, grieve in your own time and stop pretending that everyone is so understanding and caring, she's a girlfriend, not your mother.
pilljourney 5y ago
My take is honestly, fuck them at that point. We are emotional creatures above all else. I don't care about a woman that will leave me or whatever because I grieved the death of someone/something I love. She can shove it if she can't see my masculinity behind something as major as that. I'm not changing my behavior to keep up an ltr that flimsy
MardGeer 5y ago
You forget where we are, this isn't mgtow this is redpill, for sexual strategy. Figure it out but don't be coming in here with anti rp, blue pill rhetoric, we've got people who are actually trying to learn.
cannacorn119 5y ago
You're forgetting what the red pill and blue pill signify. The blue pill is about being ignorant that you're living an illusion of happiness instead swallowing the harsh reality of truth. Finding out your dog of 15 years died and grieving for it is swallowing that harsh reality. However you grieve doesn't matter. Like an above commenter said, if a girl leaves you because youre grieving over your dog dying, she's doing you a favor.
MardGeer 5y ago
No, this specific redpill is about sexual strategy, there is no middle ground here, go to mgtow if you're not gonna try.
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NSPolaris 5y ago
Yes his dog died and yes he should grieve but, why let it out infront of his girlfriend when he could deal with things on his own. Why should she see you sobbing like Wtf do you think she is gonna do about it, let you cry on her shoulder?
whiffofass 5y ago
Actually women like psychopaths who show no emotions at all. Girls are weird man
throwawaybjj44 5y ago
Sorry to hear man
Dont_call_me_Jesus 5y ago
You act like a father would do if it was his kids dog. Obviously sad, yet reassuring. Not sad, "grave" is more like it.
Take some time alone to go walk where you'd have gone with him, as a way to remember him. Alone, with your memories of him, still strong and keeping your feelings for yourself.
BurnoutRS 5y ago
If the worst does happen and she finds you in a broken down state, be sure that any "This is fucking tough, I loved that dog" statements are followed by "Im gonna get through this"
This is a transitory state, its fleeting and you recognize this. Theres a difference between healthy grieving and taking up a permanent residence within your own personal pity party
WonderfulPipe 5y ago
Exactly this. There is something such as healthy grieving, you can be emotional while remaining rational.
ronswanson3322 5y ago
A man is only allowed to cry over 3 things. 1. His dog dying. 2. Getting hit in the balls. 3. Losing close family or friends.
Bleu_Cheese_Pursuits 5y ago
It depends on the level of intimacy with the LTR. Something that is important, which I have seen being discussed lately, is that you can't be alpha all the time. You are permitted moments of weakness. But intermittent, sparingly indulged-in moments of weakness. You can cry when you parents or siblings die. I consider my cat my family. That being said, if you've been with this girl for more than a year, I think it is okay if she sees you weak for once. As long as you don't spiral out it'll be fine. If you're not that close with her, tell her you want time to yourself.
pangolin001 5y ago
I heard this once before and I think it's true enough. It was something like this: Men are allowed to cry like twice in his life, when his dad dies and when his dog dies.
So, if you have one that would 'change' on you because you cried over your dead dog, she's a demon.
archaic-guy 5y ago
Frame isnt being an unemotional rock is being in control
boy_named_su 5y ago
It's okay to be sad and cry when your dog dies. But not in front of a woman. Go see/talk to a male family member or close male friend
L0nerizm 5y ago
Alright this over manly shit is stupid. Be a human and grieve however u feel like. Who gives a shit what anyone thinks. if you’re sad about your dog then trp is the least of your worries
brooklynbooked 5y ago
I just wanted to post to say sorry about your loss bro.
RStonePT 5y ago
Do what you got to do.
You want privacy and time, so say this.
Get drunk, do what you got to do, and when she pulls the chick move "I'm not talking about it"
And if she gets weird about it, wish her well on her journey. You don't want someone who won't allow you to grieve without making it about uer
Xkirbyx 5y ago
First and foremost, fuck all that don’t cry don’t show weakness in front of your girl. Dude, you’re best friend just died let that shit out crying doesn’t make you weak. All this machismo shit is getting out of hand. If your girl acts in any way negatively about you showing human emotion dump her ass, that’s just being a cold hearted bitch.
Positivezero4 5y ago
You are allowed to grieve bro
Black_m0ngoose 5y ago
Step one: try to find frame.
Step two: Fail, cry anyway.
Few things hurt worse than losing someone who loved you unconditionally. Don't waste this opportunity to be human and have genuine feelings. You don't get to do that with many people, certainly not over women.
Being vulnerable is not the same as being weak. If she's the kind of girl that will start shit testing you for being emotional over losing a dog, she's not the kind of girl you want to be in a LTR with. The upside of being vulnerable is you get to see exactly who you can and can't trust: obviously the people you can trust will come to your aid because you're a valuable member of their social group. The people you can't trust will take advantage of your weakened state. Great time to see just how AWALT she is.
DatingTank 5y ago
You don't need to keep your fucking frame when doggo dies. Allow yourself to be sad and shed a tear. It would be weird NOT to lose your frame.
Sorry for your loss.
YoUaReSoHiLaRiOuS 5y ago
hahaha get it we call dogs doggo!111!!11111!
DatingTank 5y ago
Creating a user, only to bait people into saying "username checks out", well, if that's the best use of your life, knock yourself out.
Doing it in a thread like this though, thats just sad. What's wrong with you.
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Bleu_Cheese_Pursuits 5y ago
I think your concept of frame is grossly perverted. Think about the word for a second, "frame". What is a frame? It holds the picture. It is not the picture itself. It is what you use to accentuate or diminish aspects of the picture in the context of the location. When you frame an event, you take the same exact set of circumstances, and make it appear to seem like something it may or may not be for some purpose. In the context of sexual strategy, maintaining frame means framing your actions so as to make them appear to be motivated by alpha traits. But no one is alpha all the time. Men do, in fact, have emotions. If you were naturally alpha all the fucking time then the concept of frame would be useless. "Maintaining frame" is essentially another way of saying "fake it 'till you make it". So your question "why do you try to have frame when you actually don't?" is asinine. Unless you just feel like people should not strive for things beyond that which is in their grasp right now. In which case you're either just a bully or a gatekeeper of some sort. And that conflicts with Rule Zero: TRP's mission is to increase men's sexual power and options. If you're not interested in that, GTFO, and stroke your dick somewhere else.
Yoasted 5y ago
Well fucking said.
treehauz 5y ago
This is a great explanation of "frame"! Wow man. Thanks!