Hey, us men being “the prize” is one of the core tenets of TRP. But in university, it was clearly evident to me that women were the prize because:
- Everywhere they went, they had at least 4-5 male orbiters fighting to do their homework and buy coffee for them and walking with them; they led the interactions. Even ugly girls had this privilege.
- These girls have boyfriends that are all at least 6’3”, white, chiseled jawline, chiseled body, and making a ton of money.
- Talking to them was very hard: they would always give me this disinterested attitude from the get-go, giving me one-word answers, not even holding eye contact. I had to act like a fucking clown just to retain their attention; they never initiated anything with me and never gave me open body language. That was, of course, if I didn’t get scolded by her white knights while doing so and have them get all up in my face. Getting them to text you unless it was for homework answers... forget about it. It’s a catch-22: as soon as they even see you checking them out, they automatically make themselves the prize, and you’ve lost automatically; you ignore them, they ignore you.
- The guys at my school would routinely be time whores for girls; people who weren’t time whores (I.e. me) were left out of the social game altogether.
I wish I could see myself as the prize, but it’s impossible when it seems contrary to what goes on in the real world.
How do I see myself as the prize in a world where women are considered the prize and pedestalized by default, and act with that attitude towards me right from the get-go and ignore me and hate on me if I don’t go along with their program?
Bruchibre 5y ago
Well you can be the prize if you manage to raise interest from those girls but aren't willing to give your time away like all these other guys. Just being born as a male doesn't entitle you anything if you don't do anything about it, forget the male privilege BS.
bossplayaintraining 5y ago
So lifting, game, social status, raise my SMV?
On another note, idk why, but it seems like girls in my city just aren’t interested in guys unless they’re black thugs or what I mentioned in the main post.
I’ve never seen a guy get a girlfriend/get laid from meeting girls in classes.
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blacks are higher seen as stronger men, i cant remember where i read it but women see darker men as more masculine, that kinda explains all the broken sluts going from lack of daddy to needing a pure masculine influence
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Bruchibre 5y ago
I guess so yes. You must have something attracting about you to begin with. You can't play hard to get if no one tries to get you to begin with.
That's a clue, then become a black thug? or a white cool guy? Idk.
Well this I don't know. I guess it's a nice way to meet girls, then you'd need to get their number, meet out of uni, then escalate.
bossplayaintraining 5y ago
True. I’m just saying that because I’m not black, and I’m not fully white (I’m mixed white/Indian), so pulling off either stereotype would be impossible for me.
Bruchibre 5y ago
Yes and no, I was joking there but it's all about attitude not about race, you can act like an Indian gangster. There's definitely something to do about your situation. You have the exotic card to play. Indian guys have a dual reputation of being great lovers (kamasutra etc) and being creeps, question what you do and be sure to end up on the right end of the fence.
I say that because I live in Asia and know lots of Indian guys and some of them are quite popular among girls (White and Asian together) while some are low SMV and are seen as creeps or asexual at best.
BadBoyProgrammer 5y ago
Be a bad boy. Develop your own style. Your own way of doing things. Stereotypes are for simpletons.
kick6 5y ago
Isn't your time more valuable than her 4-5 orbiters? Isn't your attention still more interesting than her cadre of sycophants? You're still the prize because you're not a boring ass-kisser.
bossplayaintraining 5y ago
I’ve always thought this is true, but just because you think this way doesn’t mean others believe it. That’s my problem... I need others to believe it for it to actually work.
But yeah, this is how I think of it in my own mind.
kick6 5y ago
What do you mean "work?" As a pussy gimmick or as a life strategy so you're not burning time on people who won't reciprocate?
Cuz it sounds like you're really only interested in the former.
bossplayaintraining 5y ago
I was talking about the former.
As for the latter... yeah, it does work for that.
NeedingAdvice86 5y ago
"These girls have boyfriends that are all at least 6’3”, white, chiseled jawline, chiseled body, and making a ton of money"
First step is stopping the incel bullshit and talk as if you have actually walked outside in the REAL FUCKING WORLD and stop making up shit to give you license to not work on yourself and improve your life and chances with women.
So every girl you see in the world has a "6’3”, white, chiseled jawline, chiseled body, and making a ton of money".....BULL FUCKING SHIT.
Not even going to address the rest of you spiel until you deal with the actual real fucking world outside your door instead of the idiotic incel\mgtow bullshit that you read on the fucking internet.
Go away and come back when you stop feeling sorry for your pitiful incel self and ask from a point of view closer to reality.
MattyAnon Admin 5y ago
Betas don't count.
Fuck uni. It's easier in the real world.
BAD BAD BAD.
You're the prize, she's bluffing. Make your attention more conditional, get bored easily. Make her do the work. If not you get bored real fast and move on. Make her feel like she has to work or lose you. Which means you are more than prepared to lose her right from the start. Because you dgaf.
Only if you fall for their weak shitty little bluff. Don't buy it.
You only have to act like it long enough to make it true.
bossplayaintraining 5y ago
The girls honestly dgaf about this; even if it’s genuine, they see it as nothing but tactics. They never feel like a guy is valuable enough for them to work for. In these girls’ minds, by the very act of you approaching her, you have automatically demonstrated more investment than her; thus you give more fucks than she does. She can go back to the endless amounts of Chads and orbiters she’s texting on her phone at any time, and more often than not, will do it in front of you while not giving any eye contact at all and ignoring you. And she knows it, deep down.
They’ve designed these bluffs in such a way that if you don’t treat them as facts, you look socially retarded.
But yeah, betas only count to get used and abused and be “girls with dicks”.
And honestly, I don’t know how to deal with their bluff because of how convincing it is (when measured against my observations of the SMP, both in the real world and from what I’ve read on the main sub). And because those who don’t honour the bluff who do not fit one of the stereotypes I mentioned (and a lot of those who do) get frozen out.
I know it sounds ridiculous, but it’s like the girls in my city aren’t even interested in men; they’re interested in slaves; and the men are so thirsty they’re happy to oblige.
Then again, just because they’re happy being slaves doesn’t mean I need to be. So what if I’m a pariah for it? At least I have some goddamn peace of mind and at least I can decide the direction of my life, to an extent (the extent that doesn’t involve other people).
MattyAnon Admin 5y ago
They do after you've fucked them while maintaining the same IDGAF attitude towards commitment.
Not entirely.
Don't forget the value you have demonstrated in your approach, and your skill and determination as a man. Attractive qualities.
I mean... yes, you are at a disadvantage as you approach, of course you are.
But... equally..... you can approach another girl the very next second, an option she doesn't realistically have. She knows this.... and it's your job to make sure of it.
You can also "soften" your approaches by demonstrating value to those around her first.
Simply learn to get good at approaching and seducing women. You'll find they are nowhere near as bulletproof or deluged with options as they pretend they are. If they were, they wouldn't be so upset when you won't commit to them.
High value attractive men are vastly rarer than high value women.
Women always pretend they have endless options because they're very good (instinctively so) at PR. But they have very few options with top men because there aren't many.
It's your job to be a top man. And then... haha... not sharing your life or committing to her, because frankly she doesn't deserve it. You get all the benefits of being at the top, she hopes just to hold onto you for a little longer.
Ok, here's a though: shut the fuck up and head outside and chat up some women.
Nov51605 5y ago
Yeah man, you just need to live for yourself more with health/diet/financial goals. The more of "you" who you become, the less concerned you will be about that fucked up shitshow of people. that you were talking about.
What will happen is that your attraction will increase, but you will have to be wary because you will not be used to getting the kind of attention that you didn't get before and you cannot get one itis you have to spin plates, otherwise youll wind up back at square one again if not worse
bossplayaintraining 5y ago
Yeah... guys never get attention from girls where I’m from.
BadBoyProgrammer 5y ago
Telling yourself "I am the price" does not automagically make it true. Trying to improve yourself and becoming the same as every other guy also does not make you a price.
Have your own program.
bossplayaintraining 5y ago
I’ve tried, but girls don’t go along with my program. The expectation is automatically set that you go along with their program and “know your place”, or else you become a pariah/outcast for being “weird”, “creepy”, “arrogant”, and “bothering the girls”. By virtue of the fact that I wasn’t one of the “approved stereotypes” and still tried to game like I was an alpha... that gave me those labels and that reputation.
Women completely control the frame/narrative around here. It’s like “Big Brother”. And all of us men... we’re slaves to it.
Cgbgjr 5y ago
Women don't control the frame/narrative. I will just give you one minor example. I was talking to a very domineering acting women the other day (just trying some game for practice and to see what would happen next). I mentioned to her that she seemed to know a lot of guys.
She blushed like a five year old girl.
You control the narrative. Learn game--read the sidebar.
BadBoyProgrammer 5y ago
Forget about all those limiting beliefs in your mind. Keep reading the Red Pill. Stay away from all those posts that sound negative. Focus on the self improvement and positive posts. Also read some actual books about philosophy while you are at it.
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Try to catch all your negative thoughts, especially about girls, and re-frame them in a more realistic and positive way. This will slowly train your mind into a more positive direction. You want to look at girls and think "nice and friendly" instead of "bitchy whores". Also realize you do not like everyone and not everyone likes you.
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Go to the gym and train like an athlete. Take it serious like church. Bicep curls are like prayers for you. This gives you something to value. Something that you consider important and put effort into. This also separates you from the competition.
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Creating a place for yourself takes time. Rome was not build in a day. You can only be emperor after at least some foundations are build.
bossplayaintraining 5y ago
Thanks for the encouragement :)
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WORK WORK WORK .
Gain confidence in self.
I'm an ugly cunt but know deep down i'm a valauble person.
oh and dude, all whores are timewhores
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Two_kids_in_a_coat 5y ago
Remember those 6’3” white chiseled jaw rich guys? Your job is to be one of them. If your not then get to work.
Thesmuz 5y ago
how tf do u gain height? lol