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Wolveryn 5y ago
Ok, have you heard of the concept of Kino before? I know every trick in the book, but Kino is my favourite:
It's a dominance and masculine thing to do where during an interaction with a women... (say you're at a bar or a bowling alley or wherever), where you playfully physically touch her in a light hearted way.
Examples: You walk into a bar, you allow her to enter the room first, as she does so you place you hand on her lower back as a powerful and strong gentleman might.
She gets a strike at bowling, so you double high five her.
She says something uptight, so you say I think you need to relax, and massage her shoulders.
When you're talking about something and she says something bitchy, you place your hand on her shoulder with a playful smile and say 'just calm down'.
When in a seated situation, always put your arm around her while you're talking, hand on shoulder if its starting to escalate.
If you can kiss her, be bold with the moves, be the leader of the interaction, let her be the submissive. If you're not sure if she wants to kiss, she wants to kiss... she may not even know herself, you need to lead the situation. Don't leave it to her.
Place a hand in her hair, lightly pull her hair, 50 shades style and direct her lips to yours, then direct her head to the side to lean in and take a bite of her neck.
Kino is a game changer.
tldlr: Don't be afraid to use physical touch to escalate and don't be afraid to be a dominant man. Most women are submissive and it's in their nature to get turned on by that.
Oh... and skip the 38 year old unless you reeeeeally need the experience and notch on your belt.
Rndm_010 5y ago
Do you have more examples of this? Escalation ladder posts on seddit does not give context or example when to use.
OhDeer10 5y ago
What this guy said 100 % If you don't know if they want it or not, assume they do want it. My problem is if I have too high of an opinion of a girl I date I also have problems escalating. Like I met a girl I actually was quite impressed by and I blew it. First date was fine contact-wise second one i blew the whole escalation thing (no alcohol, too much respect for her because of how she impressed me).
It helps for me to remind myself that brain is basically a biological computer, and that I'm just running a program, a script, like a robot would. This helps.
Why is it called Kino tho? It feels so natural I didn't think anyone would give it a name.
Wolveryn 5y ago
Why is it called kino? Good question... /u/iamneilstrauss might know?
clausternn 5y ago
Short for kinesthetic. /u/OhDeer10
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Wolveryn 5y ago
If she's hot and she's only in it for a ONS thing, go for it, but 38 year old women tend to be looking to get knocked up or they're pissed off at Men in general.
Just make damn sure you're using protection properly and don't use any condoms she provides.
Young men have no idea how much they're playing with fire when they go fucking women in their 30's, when a women's biological clock goes off... they will get pregnant and you as the man and your situation simply are not a factor in the decision process. Like a fly getting caught in a spider web... never saw it coming.
She will use your young fertile sperm for a baby, and then use you for child support for the rest of your days.
machimus 5y ago
Don’t let this fucker scare you. Lots of 38 year olds are looking for NSA lays. Besides, at 38 her fertility isn’t what it used to be so unless she gets you to jizz in a specimen cup for IVF, I doubt she’s going to get knocked up if you use protection.
redpilldick 5y ago
Haven't read the comments other people posted here but wanted to provide my insight. Like you, I had to start from the bottom at age 23. My recommendation to you is that you set very baseline goals for each date. Do tinder or other apps so it is low investment, like you have done. Raise your SMV concurrently with this, but don't kill yourself if you are only able to pull 5's and 6's; They are just training wheels for you.
For the first few dates, set the goal to be "Go out on a date". Doesn't matter if you get friendzoned in the first 5 minutes, just be OUT with another girl alone. My first experience with this was at the age of 22. Never saw the girl (HB5) ever again, nor would I have wanted to. It was painfully awkward, but looking back at it now, I was so innocent and uneducated. Yet, had I not went on this first ever date, I would still be nowhere in my sex life.
Later that year I set something up with an HB6 feminist and set my goal to kiss her on the first date. Had me stressed out the whole time but was able to walk her home AND escort her arm in arm to her place. I was ecstatic when I kissed this HB6 after stressing the whole night planning on when I was going to do it. Wasn't a big deal but accomplishing the goal was an insane rush of dopamine. Ended up going on a second date and she was on her period. Got some head (first time a girl saw my dick ever and made out with someone) and was so scared I couldn't keep it up and finish.
Fast forward and now that I conquered "go out on a date", "kiss a girl", and "hook up with a girl", I felt like I can escalate past these milestones on dates a lot easier. Instead of worrying about escalating, you can pick up on IOIs and do it yourself. The best feeling is going in for the kiss out of the blue and you can tell they wanted to kiss you for quite some time. Try to constantly be touching her arm, hand, shoulder, and maybe outer leg when making jokes or responding to something sarcastically. When you venue change (which you should be, 2-3 venues per date), offer her your arm to escort her like an 1800s date. My favorite technique is to mentally play a game and see how long you can keep your hand touching hers or her shoulder without it being awkward. Start slow, maybe 2-3 seconds and then build it up. If you can last either a minute straight or caress her hands and she reciprocates, you are 100% golden. It really is a lot easier than you think.
If there's anything you take home from this, be it this: You are going to have a lot of awkward encounters, but what does it matter? You need to start somewhere. There's zero pressure to perform on dates and you really do learn dating dynamics much quicker than they seem. I know the topic of frame has been beaten to death, but it really is quite amazing how easy it is when you are in control. Most of all, enjoy the ride man. Don't worry about having sex, just take it one step at a time.
cultraised 5y ago
Raised mormon or a similar cult? I was and suffer from the same thing. Escalation anxiety that is.
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cultraised 5y ago
Oh yeah, very similar from what I know about JW. Had a friend that grew up JW and left a few years ago when he started college and his family cut him off, really sucks. I think both cults stunt growth a lot so we go in to adulthood with the sexual maturity of middle schoolers.
person8445 5y ago
Search escalation ladder
FemtoG 5y ago
make it your goal to strike out so that you can at least be able to look at urself in the mirror
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redpilldick 5y ago
No, that's fucking weird. She knows you find her cute but giving her that validation, especially with your inexperience, will make it so uncomfortable for her. Don't even think about sex yet until you learn the basics of frame and kino. It will come soon enough
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redpilldick 5y ago
Don't compliment her, period.