Women are split on this. They generally like one of two body-types:
The stocky, broad-shouldered, beefy man who looks like he played high school football and could build shit out of lumber.
The lean but extremely fit, sculpted college athlete who looks like he played soccer or lacrosse and could probably be a shirtless model.
Women do not like fat guys at all, but can forgive a guy who's a little chunky if he owns the room and acts like a confident winner who gets laid often. Women do not like very scrawny guys at all either, but can forgive that if he has a good-looking face and acts like a confident winner who gets laid often.
Despite popular opinion, most women don't actually like the extremely muscular, very jacked gym-rat look. They think guys who are built like that are gay or at least extremely vain. Some women like these guys, but most would prefer a guy with a more normal build.
Your scrawny guy statement is spot on. Former skinny af guy here. Still got with quality girls due to a nice face. Perfect height and a very confident personalilty.
Once the body came I suddenly didn't have to try as hard
I guess I should have worded the question better. By "size" I meant big, strong, high lifts etc, but obviously not very cut. By aesthetics i meant abs, tonedness, etc
I’d jus to slowly increase calories and see where you end up. After a point you’ll have to choose what you want though, you might be able to put on more mass and stay around the same body fat if you dial in your diet and recovery right, but sounds like you’re in a good place man
If you’re natural you must get as big as you possibly can while maintaining visible and lean abs. The reason why is because without steroids you’ll never be “too big.” Your genetic potential will be muscular and attractive and strong and lean. It will never be too big. So you have to train to maximize size. And then eat clean so you don’t turn into a fat shit.
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CainPrice 5y ago
Women are split on this. They generally like one of two body-types:
The stocky, broad-shouldered, beefy man who looks like he played high school football and could build shit out of lumber.
The lean but extremely fit, sculpted college athlete who looks like he played soccer or lacrosse and could probably be a shirtless model.
Women do not like fat guys at all, but can forgive a guy who's a little chunky if he owns the room and acts like a confident winner who gets laid often. Women do not like very scrawny guys at all either, but can forgive that if he has a good-looking face and acts like a confident winner who gets laid often.
Despite popular opinion, most women don't actually like the extremely muscular, very jacked gym-rat look. They think guys who are built like that are gay or at least extremely vain. Some women like these guys, but most would prefer a guy with a more normal build.
Thunderfin 5y ago
Accurate. Personally I'd have #2 as a goal, since number one only works if you're 6'+.
AggressiveMarket 5y ago
This is an answer I was looking for. Thanks.
willowhawk 5y ago
Your scrawny guy statement is spot on. Former skinny af guy here. Still got with quality girls due to a nice face. Perfect height and a very confident personalilty.
Once the body came I suddenly didn't have to try as hard
moltenw 5y ago
Do you consider someone like Connor Murphy a very jacked gym-rat? From an aesthetic perspective.
Would like to know because that's kinda what I'm trying to go for.
willowhawk 5y ago
Upper echelon for what girls like. May be too big for some but that will be far outweighed by the girls who do like it and chase because it's do rare.
moltenw 5y ago
Nice.
At the end of the day - it it makes you feel more confident about yourself and it also is great for girls, then what's not to like?
anon1moos 5y ago
Unless you’re on crazy amounts of steroids this isn’t an either or question
AggressiveMarket 5y ago
It's pretty hard to look like Zzyz or Frank Zane level aesthetics while natty though. Not impossible, but difficult.
anon1moos 5y ago
First of all, it is impossible to look like those guys while natty.
Second, do you think it’s easier to have size while natty? It’s easier to be fat, you look bigger when you’re fat, was that the question?
If that’s the question then your answer is that chicks like aesthetics, not fatties.
AggressiveMarket 5y ago
I guess I should have worded the question better. By "size" I meant big, strong, high lifts etc, but obviously not very cut. By aesthetics i meant abs, tonedness, etc
poochman 5y ago
Size should definitely be a priority until you hit around 170-180 or so.
Being 150 and ripped with abs is a good start but ultimately not really that impressive to men or women unless you're like 16 or something.
anon1moos 5y ago
Unless you’re going to lift with your gf the girl isn’t going to have a clue how much you can lift.
boy_named_su 5y ago
Brad pitt fight club. Or Daniel Craig in casino royale. Something between those two
BlackMarmoset 5y ago
You don't have to choose. Hit the gym, dress well, go for a haircut that values you, improve yourself, have a good career.
Don't feel limited by what you have right now, there is always room for improvement.
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MillionaireSexbomb 5y ago
what are your current stats
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MillionaireSexbomb 5y ago
I’d jus to slowly increase calories and see where you end up. After a point you’ll have to choose what you want though, you might be able to put on more mass and stay around the same body fat if you dial in your diet and recovery right, but sounds like you’re in a good place man
willowhawk 5y ago
Inb4 "I'm working out but I dont want to get too big" ????????
-Mavs 5y ago
This was back when I was in high school but a skinny friend of my was afraid he might pop a vein. I still laugh thinking about this, haha.
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An_Actual_Politician 5y ago
Women are attracted to the appearance of strength. But this is definitely a Venn diagram and we want to be in the overlap.
mindplaybyneo 5y ago
Aesthetics. Its expensive to have size and requires a lot of resources. New clothes, more food, but aesthetics is hard to build. Lots of small details
myrenaissance 5y ago
Men respect size, women like jacked and toned men for obvious magazine cover reasons.
DoomzDayTurkey 5y ago
I head women like a thick neck, thick upper back and a big ass. Have you been working on these body parts ?
WeakExample 5y ago
Haha, AlphaDestiny subscriber checking in?
TehJimmyy 5y ago
Both are connected so you dont get to choose actually.
BuckNekkid18 5y ago
This is like a question a miscer deep in the red would ask.
Batmanforreal2 5y ago
Both. Always go for both
Andgelyo 5y ago
Both would mean steroid however. Big and lean=juicing.
Personally i would rather be the lean and athletic type. I'm only 5'9 so a football player look wouldn't look good on me.
willowhawk 5y ago
Dude you're 5ft9 you could look big with very little actual weight. 180lbs and you'll be noticeably bigger than most cunts
biezpiens 5y ago
So all gymnasts use steroids?
wobbleelbbow 5y ago
Being confident
HurricaneHugues 5y ago
Ill take strength and size. Nobody cares if u look diced and joocy, in the jungle.
always_sad12 5y ago
Doesn’t matter if you’re natural.
If you’re natural you must get as big as you possibly can while maintaining visible and lean abs. The reason why is because without steroids you’ll never be “too big.” Your genetic potential will be muscular and attractive and strong and lean. It will never be too big. So you have to train to maximize size. And then eat clean so you don’t turn into a fat shit.
360_no_scope_upvote 5y ago
I know what works, I've been a power lifter and now im all aesthetics. Women love my body and constantly touch me. aesthetics every time
abudun79 5y ago
I'm sorry, I've read the question 10 times now and I cannot make any sense of it. It reminds of "Lion vs Shark - who wins the fight?"