There is a fine line between negging and plain insulting. Depending on situation, medium and delivery the same exact words can be taken up as neg or insult.
negging over phone without having ever seen her or know much is also hard because the best neggs are about some random quirks or weird hobbies/interest she has.
That said, that was a pretty hard shit test from her considering the medium. If she doesn’t find you attractive online, you can’t really flip it with your personality. In person, you could crush this shit test. Online it’s much harder.
The goal of a neg is to make her feel insecure so she wants to qualify herself to you. If you just straight-up insult her, she doesn't need to qualify herself to you, she can just preserve her ego by disqualifying you.
Which is precisely what she did.
You need to say something that makes her insult herself. The criticism has to come from her, not you. You need to say something perfectly innocent that plays upon her insecurities, and causes her to generate the criticism, herself, within her own internal monologue.
If you point that she has a piece of lettuce stuck in her teeth, she will be embarrassed, quickly try to groom herself back into presentablity, and conclude that you are not afraid to be blunt with her. She can't get mad at you... it was true, and you were just helping her out, right?
If you call her a slob because of it, you will be the source of the attack, and she can regain her internal composure and external status by trying to take you down instead.
Meh, i think op's neg was actually funny. And i also don't think he is out of the game. She just gave it back. You have to expect this with an agressive neg. He should just keep going. Like with the “hate-fuck“ response. If it doesn't work - nothing lost.
Interesting, based on the above i guess i have never actually negged the girl. I am usually the one calling her a slob cheekily. Cocky and Funny i guess? works out for me unless i just met the girl.
I would immediately back off of the PUA routine, but also recognize that this is probably either a shit test or she just thinks too highly of herself.
Whatever you do don’t respond in a way that seems frustrated and irritated, or butt hurt. Mentally and emotionally next her, but leave the door ajar and see where it can go. It sounds like she knows game, so calibrate accordingly. Just get what you can and move on.
Someone went out with newbie level "neg" <easily spotted as just your standard PUA routine "neg"> to play with a shark and the shark easily swatted it away with the back of her hand.
So now the Op is at the make or break point because he either gets in to a neg-fest or the defuses the situation by redirecting the interaction back to the purpose of contacting her in the first place...fucking her.
I would think that a little comfort alone lines of praising her for her "wit" with her response then move toward setting up a meet. You have shown that you can be an jerkoff now you have to show that you have more depth and can be charming\interesting and "get it" with women.
Just responding with another Neg is likely to just degrade into a fucking neg-fest out and back until the chick just ghosts or blocks but isn't going to lead to a meetup to fuck. If she was in the camp where she was just tingling all over the Op, she would have been a little defensive about the insecure in her response but she sees the Op on about equal terms with her and considers him as a "possibility" but isn't all Chad-worship over him.
Whatever you do...do not respond in anyway that could be construed as butthurt...that would scream insecure.
Lmao. You’d be surprised a lil push and pull can do wonders. My quickest hookups always happened when i teased her like i would tease a bratty little sister.
Why all the downvotes? This is a great response! She’s probably trying to be cocky and funny, so why not turn it around on her? Man, this is a great response. Good one bro.
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Throndor_Rising 5y ago
"I guess we'll just have to settle for hate sex then"
Ekken_ 5y ago
Well, let’s hear the neg. Hard to give a good follow up response without it.
DadOnDabs 5y ago
All of her photos were basic as fuck so I said, "Cody, I wanna believe you're not basic but you have so much going against you"
beginner_ 5y ago
There is a fine line between negging and plain insulting. Depending on situation, medium and delivery the same exact words can be taken up as neg or insult. negging over phone without having ever seen her or know much is also hard because the best neggs are about some random quirks or weird hobbies/interest she has.
Hammer_Tit 5y ago
Basic bitch jokes always get a hearty chuckle from me
Fuck that hoe, I'm charmed
bluefingerblue 5y ago
Stick to your guns. Double down.
“Bet you’re drinking a pumpkin spiced right now”
That said, that was a pretty hard shit test from her considering the medium. If she doesn’t find you attractive online, you can’t really flip it with your personality. In person, you could crush this shit test. Online it’s much harder.
TrenGod37 5y ago
This shit right here. ^^
This is frame.
“...in your uggs”
Whisper Moderator 5y ago
You suck at negging.
The goal of a neg is to make her feel insecure so she wants to qualify herself to you. If you just straight-up insult her, she doesn't need to qualify herself to you, she can just preserve her ego by disqualifying you.
Which is precisely what she did.
You need to say something that makes her insult herself. The criticism has to come from her, not you. You need to say something perfectly innocent that plays upon her insecurities, and causes her to generate the criticism, herself, within her own internal monologue.
If you point that she has a piece of lettuce stuck in her teeth, she will be embarrassed, quickly try to groom herself back into presentablity, and conclude that you are not afraid to be blunt with her. She can't get mad at you... it was true, and you were just helping her out, right?
If you call her a slob because of it, you will be the source of the attack, and she can regain her internal composure and external status by trying to take you down instead.
neoda1 5y ago
can i get an example of a NEG here in this situation? Would love to know more insight of an example being played.
TrenGod37 5y ago
You’re right. But By her response I think she was just giving it back to him. Which isn’t all that bad
Although this wouldn’t not be my first approach This stuff could work on the right women. Judging by her response she’s down to play
I would double down as someone said below me.
DubbleFUPAwitCheez 5y ago
This is why I refer to negs as back handed compliments around here. So many guys still don't know what the fuck it is.
karamd 5y ago
Dude, you got any more examples?
It seems like I too suck at negging
ppanthero 5y ago
Meh, i think op's neg was actually funny. And i also don't think he is out of the game. She just gave it back. You have to expect this with an agressive neg. He should just keep going. Like with the “hate-fuck“ response. If it doesn't work - nothing lost.
MisplacedSanityP 5y ago
Can you give some examples mate?
HufftyPuffty 5y ago
So if a chicks fat just say, you look like you hit your caloric surplus on a daily basis. And then she'll qualify herself by hitting the gym.
Thizzlebot 5y ago
She's bulking....for 25 years.
Atheist_Utopia 5y ago
Sadly, the world ain't all rainbow and sunshine.
donkeydodo 5y ago
Your comment and name are out of sync
Atheist_Utopia 5y ago
Fortunately, the utopia isn't a distant future anymore.
[deleted] 5y ago
This right here is gold. Upvoted.
humzy 5y ago
Interesting, based on the above i guess i have never actually negged the girl. I am usually the one calling her a slob cheekily. Cocky and Funny i guess? works out for me unless i just met the girl.
latinasonly 5y ago
smooth my dude. I feel like a lot of shit-tests girls throw fall into this style (esp. the supposedly subconscious shit tests)
Ekken_ 5y ago
“Now you have a lot going against you. Try again.”
If she keeps being disrespectful, “lol, have you met people before or do you live in a cave? Try ‘hi dadondabs, I’m Cody’”
TrenGod37 5y ago
Cringe.
Maybe in person. Not online.
Flintblood 5y ago
I would immediately back off of the PUA routine, but also recognize that this is probably either a shit test or she just thinks too highly of herself.
Whatever you do don’t respond in a way that seems frustrated and irritated, or butt hurt. Mentally and emotionally next her, but leave the door ajar and see where it can go. It sounds like she knows game, so calibrate accordingly. Just get what you can and move on.
SpecialistParticular 5y ago
That Kelly Clarkson song where she squeals like a hot girl and talks about her soft touch makes me want to puke.
MattyAnon Admin 5y ago
"You're not cute enough to mind"
Or
"You're cute enough to handle it"
RedHoodhandles 5y ago
Lol I'd just delete her.
Broteet 5y ago
"So what attracts you isn't the same as all the other girls then. What's your fetish?"
latinasonly 5y ago
its a shit-test to see if you as attractive as you seem when you said your hard neg
Bruchibre 5y ago
Become more attractive
xddm2653 5y ago
"you're not attractive enough to be this picky"
Bedtimeshine 5y ago
Your neg was garbage, what she said is a universal truth. And get off tinder.
NeedingAdvice86 5y ago
Bhahahahha.....she owned you.
Someone went out with newbie level "neg" <easily spotted as just your standard PUA routine "neg"> to play with a shark and the shark easily swatted it away with the back of her hand.
So now the Op is at the make or break point because he either gets in to a neg-fest or the defuses the situation by redirecting the interaction back to the purpose of contacting her in the first place...fucking her.
I would think that a little comfort alone lines of praising her for her "wit" with her response then move toward setting up a meet. You have shown that you can be an jerkoff now you have to show that you have more depth and can be charming\interesting and "get it" with women.
Just responding with another Neg is likely to just degrade into a fucking neg-fest out and back until the chick just ghosts or blocks but isn't going to lead to a meetup to fuck. If she was in the camp where she was just tingling all over the Op, she would have been a little defensive about the insecure in her response but she sees the Op on about equal terms with her and considers him as a "possibility" but isn't all Chad-worship over him.
Whatever you do...do not respond in anyway that could be construed as butthurt...that would scream insecure.
[deleted] 5y ago
If you can only say things based on how hot you are, i guess you are mute?
That’s funny, you’re not attractive at all
Attractive enough for you to swipe right
DadOnDabs 5y ago
I like the last one
iLLprincipLeS 5y ago
This is good.
WeTheAwakened 5y ago
she unmatches him
11-Eleven-11 5y ago
Hey girl I find you completely repulsive. Hqve sex with me?
[deleted] 5y ago
Lmao. You’d be surprised a lil push and pull can do wonders. My quickest hookups always happened when i teased her like i would tease a bratty little sister.
11-Eleven-11 5y ago
Ya good luck doing that through text
[deleted] 5y ago
True. Im not big on e-wheeling lol
youcantdenythat 5y ago
don't neg on tinder. just talk casually a little, then meet up. gaming in text is dumb and won't get you anywhere
11-Eleven-11 5y ago
its hard not to come off as butthurt as well
jekporkins77 5y ago
Whatever you want, it's just a shit test
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HurricaneHugues 5y ago
"Yet u swiped right. How tall are u girl?"
Divert the conversation because it will turn into a never ending neg off
Zanford 5y ago
You got negged back lol
You probably negged to hard, but treat like a regular shit test
Ignore, or A&A ('great news just got cast as the Hunchback in the next Disney movie') or since it's Tinder 'and yet you swiped right'
RylanBlackwood 5y ago
"Lmao ikr, my mum doesn't let me out of the house too much"
AnjaJutta 5y ago
What was the hard neg?
WeTheAwakened 5y ago
Nagging is still alive? Lmfao.
Thunderfin 5y ago
neg not nag
WeTheAwakened 5y ago
Typo chief.
Dirty_Socks_Mullins 5y ago
"Being attractive to someone like you would be a burden, not a blessing."
Fauxregaurd 5y ago
And yet you still answered me.
[deleted] 5y ago
"You say that, yet I'm still talking...."
CalvinRichland 5y ago
You are only saying that because you dont know how good in bed i am yet
FuneralWithAnR 5y ago
No. Never.
Flintblood 5y ago
Why all the downvotes? This is a great response! She’s probably trying to be cocky and funny, so why not turn it around on her? Man, this is a great response. Good one bro.
ghosts_of_me 5y ago
0% chance
CalvinRichland 5y ago
He lost anyway
ghosts_of_me 5y ago
They only threw one punch each, the battle had barely begun
Avskygod0 5y ago
"are you sure about that :^)"