bro you think she hasnt done this same shit to a million other guys? just be a fucking dog

Just go beta. Start talking about your feelings, thoughts, beliefs, struggles. Lose frame. She’ll see the massive frame change and thinks she has no idea who you are. She’ll be gone before you know it. No alpha widow. She’ll think she’s too good for you.

It works like a charm. Whether it’s self sabotage or intentional.

Better now than never. Stop fucking her.

I did this to a girl when I was 26 and she was 19. I still keep in touch with her but the signs are clear that she sort of developed a resentment towards men after I dumped her. She always was sort of a leftie but now she's sharing tumblr posts and talking about socialism.

Better now than never - Sever.

You aren't responsible for her sadness. You can only control you. It's up to her to control her own emotions and process them appropriately.

You've let things progress too far already, if you don't see a future best to end things now. At least you didn't do what I did and try to convince yourself you can eventually love her, only to break her heart 4 years down the road.

-told her I didn't love her -I can't sleep at night from guilt

Bro, you're definitely emotionally invested in this girl. Whole you might not call it love right now, it basically is.

And btw there is absolutely nothing wrong with emotionally investing, just make sure you're always keeping TRP fresh in the FRONT of your mind while enjoying the experience. plates always break.

Alpha widowed??? She looks emotionally dependent, that's all. Girls get like this sometimes.

1 - women dump men on a whim, with no remorse. You shouldn't be abusive, but you have to do what's right for you. Women are selfish, we have a right to be too. She's cruelly dumped men in the past and will do in the future. She's no angel just because she is emotionally dependent on you.

2 - she'll get over this faster than you'd ever believe. Within 24 hours she'll fuck your friends or a stranger, within a week you'll be the abusive ex who is the reason she can no longer do <insert some effort she no longer wants to make in life>.

, the guilt from leading on a woman

You didn't lead her on, you are not responsible for her.

You best be real fuckin careful no matter what you choose, because this shit has 'upcoming metoo accusation' written aaaaaaaall over it

The female guilt trip. Works every time...

Unless you see it exactly for what it is. Her attempting to get her way. And, shes winning so far.

You do what you WANT to do. Ignore the tears. They can cry on demand... Learned from childhood. It works. She knows it works. It has been working.

Do what you gotta do, ignore the BS.

I am with this woman who is madly in love with me, but I have no intention of committing to her.

you know what to not do again.

Don't let yourself be with someone just cause you feel sorry for them

Dude, I'm reading your responses and you're so dead wrong. First of all, she will get over it. You clearly don't want to be in this relationship and it's going to impact future ones. The easier you let this girl down, the better. "it's not working out, we want different things. You deserve to be with someone who wants the same things as you, and so do I".

Boom, problem solved. After that, if she cries or tries to message you, just say that you're sorry you hurt her, but it isn't healthy to keep communicating with each other. Make sure she's got a friend or someone who can look after her so that she doesn't do something really stupid. I'm assuming you have enough mutual friends that you could give someone else a heads up.

The problem as I see it is you're a phaggot who literally allowed a pushy bimbo to cry her way into making her your girlfriend.

In your defense, you hadn't witnessed the "waterworks" trick before, AKA crocodile tears.

HARD NEXT. Block contact.

Do it over the phone if you need to.

Be sure to go out all that evening in case she goes batshit and shows up at your door.

Meanwhile, read up on relationships with borderlines.

You have little to no boundary discipline. She didn't get to this from nowhere. You probably spent too much non-sexual time together, and maybe even communicating/texting with her about things that isn't planning for the next sex meet-up.

I think the biggest mistake is you found trp, read some of the sidebar material, and exercised almost none of the discipline. For some dudes it's better to have not waken so early, go through the beta mistakes in their 20s, and then realize something is wrong.

You can't have it both ways, either you believe in red pill or you don't. Either she's a woman that sees man with high value and is attaching herself to him or you led her on and now have you be careful with her feelings since she's in love with you. You as a human aren't responsible for other people's feelings.

I agree with others. You need to let this one go if there's no LTR with her for you. It will only get worse the longer you let it continue. So steel yourself, you already feel guilty. Letting her go is gonna hurt her. But not letting her go is gonna hurt her worse later.

It's an unfortunate side effect of spinning plates. They get attached, you don't, and presto. One thing to remember is people are responsible for themselves. You aren't responsible to protect her from getting hurt in the world of dating. That's her job. At the same time, it's honestly good to hear you have heart. Most of us aren't the dark triad types that truly give no shits.

Our actions impact other people. Having compassion for others and keeping ourselves in check so how we impact others isn't hurtful is honestly the definition of being a decent human being. The lesson for the future is be cognizant and if she's catching feelings more than you, end things quickly and move on. As I said above, she'll hurt, but not as bad as if you wait and it happens later.

Why not just be honest with her? Don't lead her on it'll only make things worse.

The waterworks work

BDSM and maid roleplay.

Seriously. If you have a girl who's more into you than you are into her, you should parlay that into getting what you want out of the relationship, whatever that may be. She can blow you while you read, she can dress up as a French maid and clean your place, then present herself and beg for anal. Whatever you can think of that you might like with this girl, just go for it; worst case scenario she's not down for it and then you have a more concrete reason for breaking things off with her. Not that you need one of course. You shouldn't feel guilty here and you don't owe her an explanation. I'm just saying that before you cut her loose, make sure you've got everything you want and fully capitalized on the attraction you've built up.

As for your guilt, remember that she's knowingly guilt tripping you, and if the show were on the other foot (a hotter, higher status guy came along) she'd branch swing in a heartbeat.

Picture the amount of shit she'd give if the situation was reversed, and know that she will in fact do that to many beta men over the years.

That's what happens when you use people and you have a conscience...you feel guilt. I think it can be massively damaging to some girls to treat them like that, and that it should be avoided if possible. Contrary to the general attitude around here, your conscience is telling you the same thing

She is not entitled to your time. Just because her short term emotional well being is dependent on you, does not mean she is entitled to you or that you should feel guilty for living your life how you want to live it. She will get over it.

Who cares. She’s using her emotions to try to manipulate yours into getting what she wants. Now she made you feel guilty like a little bitch. Your mistake was making her believe that this was anything more than a casual thing. Plates are only used for sticking your dick in them. Stop with the guilt and take responsibility for your actions. Move on or ignore everything she does and just meet to fuck.

Emotional manipulation only gets worse. If it’s this bad now it will seriously get worse. You better cut ties entirely. She’s already gotten in your head. You mentioned “tried” several times. This is a classic sign and it won’t stop there

Feels good to be wanted so badly. (Am I the only sociopath on here who starts fights for the makeup sex?) After a few rounds of what you described, the rush will have tapered down noticeably and you will care less about the outcome and more about the real reasons why you want to breakup. Write those reasons down in Notes on your phone in case you need it after the real breakup happens.

Now you feel guilt, in couple years you will burst out laughing when they do this shit.

Either ignore it or end it if you cant' take the guilt. For sure do not commit.

There was a woman I was dating that emotionally abused me, manipulated me, and controlled most every aspect of my life.

After I broke up with her she went to everyone of my friends and family members that she met to tell them I was a sociopath and needed professional help etc etc.

This led me to TRP.

After breaking up with her and maintaining frame she broke down and cried multiple times. I kept giving her the time of day because I was in love with the image of her I created in my head. Hoping she could change. Fact of the matter she didn't love me she liked the emotional sponge I was, the things I did for her, and that she could control someone gave her a rush.

I fucked up and let the tears get to me. Allowed her back into my life little by little. We banged after the break up and she cried saying "idk how we can have such beautiful spiritual emotional sex and you just NOT LOVE me; you obviously don't love me if you are willing to break up with me"

Me doing that gave her more power over me and made the healing process, and moving forward take much longer than needed.

Be a man, quit playing with your food, and throwing a tantrum. Life hurts, if you can't push through the pain you will be stuck there, because that's all you deserve.

Success isn't given it's taken.

how long have you been dating her, and did you tell her what you were interested in from the beginning?

Wait until this girl who is so madly in love with you dumps you for another guy who's willing to commit.... If you keep seeing her without committing this will eventually happen.

Look at it this way - if you commited to her, fully and completely, there's probably a 50% or more chance that she'd get bored, and she would be the one dumping you.

At least the power is in your hands, here.

A. Stop being a pussy.

B. Go fuck other girls.

You don't owe her or anyone in this world anything