I seem to have held ideas in my mind for a long time that everyone wanted to win together. Then after trp it has flopped to the polar opposite - everyone is out to get me/adversarial. They won't do things for you without expecting a return/help you.
Logically it makes more sense that they're just really out for themselves and if there's some good in that, they'll help you too. Can't help but think that people don't want me to succeed and they'd rather do their own thing.
Someone please help me fix this paradigm - it's ruining my mentality being suspicious and paranoid all the time. It's ruining my relationships too, I may have lost a friend because of my paranoia.
Willow-girl 7y ago
You know how, when you get on a plane, the flight attendant tells everyone that in the event of an emergency, make sure you put on your own oxygen mask before assisting other passengers? That's good advice in any case.
anon1moos 7y ago
Its the second one, no one gives a shit about you.
Everyone wants to win, if together is how they have to do it then they'll do it together. If not, if its a zero sum sort of situation, then its adversarial.
abdada 7y ago
Do you smoke pot or take any drugs for depression or ADHD?
let_terror_reign 7y ago
I've only tried pot once ever. I don't take drugs for either depression or ADHD. Why do you ask?
abdada 7y ago
Paranoid delusions are common with pot users and those taking meth for ADHD.
Any family history of schizophrenia? Were you adopted?
let_terror_reign 7y ago
no, no and no. there were a few cases where people close to me actually did that and I withdrew socially for about a year and when I tried to come back, I was incredibly paranoid. It's better now, but not where I want.
abdada 7y ago
Very interesting. Sometimes people who withdraw or abandon a person can instill some paranoia, but I don't know of any solid evidence or research that talks about solutions.
let_terror_reign 7y ago
Appreciate the honesty. That was also when I found TRP, so I went from super positive clueless happy go lucky to super negative paranoid antisocial.
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let_terror_reign 7y ago
Less nice, more just people with a lot of goodwill and such.
Unfortunately, I am currently dependent on some people and they're not non-factors.
W_O_M_B_A_T 7y ago
Huh?
Scarcity mentality. We live in a country and time of extreme abundance. There's more than enough success and women to go around.
Other people generally don't give a shit about you, much less have a desire to actively sabotage your efforts.
People who think otherwise tend to be losers who sabotage themselves, just to validate their own scarcity beliefs.
Don't hang out with overly competitive losers.
Terdmuffin 7y ago
It's kind of both. Everyone wants to be better off, and one of the easiest ways to make yourself look better is to bring down people around you. Look up crabs in a bucket.
let_terror_reign 7y ago
I can't honestly say I've met a ton of crab in the bucket type people
kruxofthemimed 7y ago
The truth is that some people do want you to succeed, but most people are apathetic to you. And that's ok, I doubt you spend most of your time hoping everybody else you know is doing wonderful. Humans are egocentric because that is the most productive way for a species to function. Nothin wrong with it, and yes people are out for themselves. Make friends with these people and they will make sure not to hurt you in their pursuit.
let_terror_reign 7y ago
Valid point, i don't think about most people. I wish them well passively but i'm not actively invested in their lives nor can i be bothered to.
kruxofthemimed 7y ago
yeah, and the people that you do think about likely think about you as well assuming they're family/friends. it's really a great system and not anything to be sad about. strangers honestly can be really nice as well. humans aint that bad
let_terror_reign 7y ago
Thanks bro, I needed to hear that. Maybe you're right and my paranoia is focusing on the small things ONLY.
kruxofthemimed 7y ago
it may be coming from a place of insecurity as well. not as in "omg im ugly no 1 likes me" but generally not feeling confident in yourself to reach your goals without the help of others. I'd say this is natural and probably most people experience it (myself included), likely just a social mechanism we developed to keep us somewhat on our toes. but hey man i'm here for ya ;) hahaha
randarrow 7y ago
Everyone? No.
A few people will at times, but is pretty rare and they are normally easy to avoid. These people are either insecure, have a personality disorder, or have a scarcity mentality. For example, a close family member who is codependent may sabotage your success or your relationships in order to keep you dependent on them.
Looks like 15% of Americans have personality disorders. Things to remember, it's their world too and they are a part of life, learn to deal with them productively from a distance. Also, these people stick out the most, and you might even deal with these people the most. Ie, you are more likely to notice and compare yourself against a narcissist than someone who isn't. Remember you also have about 1 in 7 chance of having a disorder, so know thyself.
Most people don't care. But, you also never deal with most people.
redpill-account 7y ago
Life is about love.
But also leverage.
Some people are weak, jealous, petty (iE THEY as Dj Khalid would say)
While people mostly look out for themselves , I have also found people disproportionately value high value people.
For example , I have around 10 friends I consider family. I would do anything for these people because ik they would do the same which makes all our lives better .
Just food for thought
randomperson123321 7y ago
People want the best for themselves and their family, were "family" does not necessarily mean relatives, it could be friends, relatives, kids, spouses, etc.
Some people step on others to reach their goals. Some people refrain from stepping on others. Some people only step on others selectively.
Relate the choice regarding this subject to the way each person chooses to live. Some people work for others, some work for themselves, some are honest, some con others, some steal, some kill. These situations can be mixed and matched selectively.
The world is filled with all kinds of people. Behaviors, characteristics, world view, social factors, outcomes and many other things can and do vary between people, ranging from slight non obvious variations to extreme ones.
Consider all this and adapt accordingly. In the end, how your mindset evolves depends on you.
let_terror_reign 7y ago
Thank you for a well thought out answer.
But I've seen a lot of hypocritical people in the way they behave, lol.
LewisCross 7y ago
Yes, everyone just wants the best for themselves.
No one is out to get you. I hate to break this to you, but... no one gives a fuck about you. Whatever you did last month is forever lost to history, down the memory hole. Whatever you were last month is also ancient history. Every day is a new day, a chance to reinvent yourself.
Sure, people want a help or a return. People who insist on it; won't do anything for you unless you give them something first - judge how important they are to you and act accordingly. You don't have to give everyone everything just because they want you to.
Everyone wants the best for themselves. There's no grand conspiracy here. NO one cares whether you get what you want or need, except YOU. So go take care of yourself.